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Through my personal experience the A7 in my iPad Mini Retina, so it has higher thermal room, is slower and less responsive then the Snapdragon 800 in my Nexus 5. So based on that I know which one I would rather have, the 801 would be even faster.

Providing a short video of that would be very nice :rolleyes:
 
I didn't say that Apple makes displays, just that the display experience on an iPhone is much superior. I have tested many Android devices and NONE of them comes close to the iPhone. The good thing is that you don't have to take my word for it. Just read Anandtech or other technical sites..

Ok I'm sorry that I misunderstood your post. I don't agree about the experience but that's just my opinion.
 
1. You haven't looked at the newer AMOLED screens coming out.
2. Yes. Who should need more? I mean, you've clearly figured out MY needs! 1 GB of RAM is enough-FOR YOU.
3. There's good reason to be pessimistic. Apple hasn't had a great battery since iPhone 4.

1. Still doesn't mean anything. The Retina display is brilliant.

2. 1GB IS enough for a phone.

3. Well, I've nothing to say really. The battery is for me.
 
I didn't say that Apple makes displays, just that the display experience on an iPhone is much superior. I have tested many Android devices and NONE of them comes close to the iPhone. The good thing is that you don't have to take my word for it. Just read Anandtech or other technical sites..

I find it funny that people care about accurate color reproduction on their 4" phone screens but their big screen tv is almost never properly calibrated.

I am a videophile by nature but I have never used my phone based on the colors being more accurate. Now my theater screen. Yup color accuracy really matters. I'd much prefer Apple to fix the Safari problem but might as week keep color accuracy as well since it's been there for a fee years except the Retina Mini which I use more than any other device in my house.
 
1080p and beyond is marketing fluff (and yes, it works well for that) on a pocket device.


Certainly not. There's a world of difference between HD and FullHD screens on current 4,5-5" devices. Now, going from FullHD to QHD, the difference becomes less obvious, except for some very specialist use cases.
 
I find it funny that people care about accurate color reproduction on their 4" phone screens but their big screen tv is almost never properly calibrated.

I am a videophile by nature but I have never used my phone based on the colors being more accurate. Now my theater screen. Yup color accuracy really matters. I'd much prefer Apple to fix the Safari problem but might as week keep color accuracy as well since it's been there for a fee years except the Retina Mini which I use more than any other device in my house.

I value color accuracy a lot, but not up to the point that it must be perfect. I just don't like to see over saturated colors, skin colors that do not exist and pictures of my family and friends that look unreal, just because the phone has a badly calibrated display. On my HTC M8 it is like that, on my iPhone it's not.
My TV is also calibrated to use natural colors..
 
1. Still doesn't mean anything. The Retina display is brilliant.

2. 1GB IS enough for a phone.

3. Well, I've nothing to say really. The battery is for me.

1. Not anymore

2. No it isn't

3. It's better to say nothing on this because the iPhone battery life is barely competitive at this point in history among flagships.
 
I value color accuracy a lot, but not up to the point that it must be perfect. I just don't like to see over saturated colors, skin colors that do not exist and pictures of my family and friends that look unreal, just because the phone has a badly calibrated display. On my HTC M8 it is like that, on my iPhone it's not.
My TV is also calibrated to use natural colors..

You'd think all phone makers would allow people to calibrate the display similar to a tv. It's a pretty simple exercise especially with a well written app. You can't fix everything but with a little tweaking it could improve.

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1. Not anymore

2. No it isn't

3. It's better to say nothing on this because the iPhone battery life is barely competitive at this point in history among flagships.

I wish all cellphones focused on battery life. On LTE and playing a game my iPhone 5S battery sucks. This is not an iPhone problem but a battery problem. Apple doesn't help it's making each device thinner and thinner but overall battery technology needs to improve for all cell phone makers.
 
More dynamic? Wtf are you talking about? That's so vague in the context of smartphones that it's meaningless.

It makes no sense to respond with "False" to a post with links to objective, accurate sources without any justification. I hate to accuse anyone of this, but considering how senseless your post was: are you being paid by Samsung? It's well-known that they pay people to disparage their competitors on internet forums, and pre-iPhone launch is probably when the budget for that type of stuff is at its peak.

Also, it's painfully clear that English isn't your first language. For instance, "does everything I need for me" should be "does everything I need it to." And for that matter, what exactly about the S5 being "more dynamic" makes "it" my problem? Trolling forums [successfully] most definitely isn't your strong suit.

This type of behavior is disgusting: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/24/5023658/samsung-fined-340000-for-posting-negative-htc-reviews

Yep, you got me. Samsung pays me handsomely to promote their products. Just because someone has a contrary opinion, it makes them a "troll and disgusting?" Dynamic means I can do more things with my Galaxy than an iPhone. Widgets, IR Blaster as a universal remote, use more health related apps, smart functions, launchers, multi window, etc. I also love how you criticize my typing. Ignore me if I am bothering you. I am not going to let some Apple fan get to me. Seems like you're letting me get to you since you're focused on what "you see as wrong." I haven't seen you prove me wrong either.
 
1GB is not enough in this day and age.
Hopefully it will come with 2GB and everyone who says they don't want 2GB and 1GB is enough can write letters to Apple saying how appalled they are at the egregious inclusion of more hardware. While they are at it, they should complain about the camera, as 5MP is enough. Also the dual core processor, because a single core is enough.
 
has anybody seen some pics of real feld & volk custom iphones? all i've seen so far are renders/photoshops/mockups (or bad quality photos with celebrities using an iphone from them). somehow this company seems fishy...
 

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Seriously.
If I had an iPhone 6, I'd show every single detail about the phone.
I don't know if those people run out of storage on their cameras, or magically lose their pictures files or something, because they NEVER seem to have all the details.
Very irritating.

It's because this is FAKE.

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1GB is not enough in this day and age.
Hopefully it will come with 2GB and everyone who says they don't want 2GB and 1GB is enough can write letters to Apple saying how appalled they are at the egregious inclusion of more hardware. While they are at it, they should complain about the camera, as 5MP is enough. Also the dual core processor, because a single core is enough.

Okay, let's say Apple *told* you that they'd put 2GB in it, but in fact, had only put 1GB in it, and they'd rigged the hardware to report 2GB, and you weren't willing to take your phone apart and weren't knowledgeable enough to know how to find out IF 2GB was physically installed, and IF it was being used...

Tell me, if iOS 8 performed amazingly on the 1GB which you thought was 2GB, which I am sure it will, HOW would you know?

Eat the placebo pill - you only know what you're told, until you're given proof to the contrary. Have you ever heard of "cognitive biases"? You might want to look:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases



PS: If the average amount of RAM for an Android phone were 256MB or 512MB, and they'd optimised Android to fly like a rocket with NO LAG EVER, based on that spec, the whole perception of "1GB is not enough" would not even exist, and people would be contradicting themselves, stating that the 1GB was "far superior" and comments such as "This is going to be amazing" would be seen EVERYWHERE.

It's all an illusion, and you're ALL buying into it.
 
Okay, let's say Apple *told* you that they'd put 2GB in it, but in fact, had only put 1GB in it, and they'd rigged the hardware to report 2GB, and you weren't willing to take your phone apart and weren't knowledgeable enough to know how to find out IF 2GB was physically installed, and IF it was being used...

Tell me, if iOS 8 performed amazingly on the 1GB which you thought was 2GB, which I am sure it will, HOW would you know?

The people complaining about the lack of RAM aren't complaining because they just want more RAM, there is a negative effect on user experience (ex. Safari refreshing with just a couple of tabs). Even if Apple did trick us, and if Safari still had to reload/refresh tabs then we'd just want more RAM. One way or another, there's a problem that needs to be addressed. If the iPhone 5S didn't reload Safari all the time, you think people would have this problem with 1GB of RAM? Everyone complaining just wants to not have to have their tabs load when there is nothing opened. You think that can be solved via software optimization (we keep hearing that every iPhone release but the same problem persists) so people asking for more RAM are not wrong.
 
The I agree that the UI is unfair to judge since it's what makes and iphone an iphone. But everything else is a legitimate problem. The ram wont be increased for the 3rd year in a row and retina is just a ******** marketing term to make the screen sound sharp when actually it slugs behind every other competitor.
Maybe the RAM needs to be increased, but I'd like to know why, in real life use terms. I have a good idea of what more RAM means on my Windows laptop or my MacBook, but on an iPhone?
Same thing for Retina display. Phones with a bigger screens may need a higher ppi, but with a 3.5" or 4" screen, would you even be able to tell the difference?
 
I didn't say that Apple makes displays, just that the display experience on an iPhone is much superior. I have tested many Android devices and NONE of them comes close to the iPhone. The good thing is that you don't have to take my word for it. Just read Anandtech or other technical sites..

Not really. Most people would say the GS5, HTC One M8, LG G3, Note 3, Note 4, etc have better displays than Apple. Get with the times instead of focusing on some gimmicky "Retina display" that will crack the 720p display for the first time. Congrats to Apple on its first mobile HD screen.
 
Not really. Most people would say the GS5, HTC One M8, LG G3, Note 3, Note 4, etc have better displays than Apple. Get with the times instead of focusing on some gimmicky "Retina display" that will crack the 720p display for the first time. Congrats to Apple on its first mobile HD screen.

Because they probably don't know what they are talking about. None of these screens looks real. The iPhone has the best display.
 
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Becaus they probably don't know what they are talking about. None of these screens looks real. The iPhone has the best display.

I had this so called "Retina display" on my iTouch 5G, but it didn't look as sharp as the S5. It was decent, but that's as far as I will go. The G3 and S5 are so much better, but I'll let you remain a misinformed person.
 
The people complaining about the lack of RAM aren't complaining because they just want more RAM, there is a negative effect on user experience (ex. Safari refreshing with just a couple of tabs). Even if Apple did trick us, and if Safari still had to reload/refresh tabs then we'd just want more RAM. One way or another, there's a problem that needs to be addressed. If the iPhone 5S didn't reload Safari all the time, you think people would have this problem with 1GB of RAM? Everyone complaining just wants to not have to have their tabs load when there is nothing opened. You think that can be solved via software optimization (we keep hearing that every iPhone release but the same problem persists) so people asking for more RAM are not wrong.

People just want to stack up justifications for buying a new, unnecessary consumer device. They talk themselves (and others) into believing they "need" it SO much, there's very little chance of convincing them to be happy with what they have.

A very wise person once said:

"It's not your problem that's the problem, its your attitude to the problem that's the problem"

My Mum owns a 3G S - it's slow and it locks up sometimes, but she doesn't throw a fit and convince herself she needs a new iPhone, she is peaceful and content with what she has, and grateful for the blessing of having such a nice device. Her attitude to the "problem" of the device locking up and slowing down is "Oh well, I am happy".

Here's what happens with smartphones:

1/ Rumours mount, suspense and anticipation increases...

2/ Release date arrives! Everyone is in a frenzy, can't wait to try it...

3/ Purchase data arrives - you RUSH to the shop to buy it, then rush around to show all your friends your new phone

4/ You sit caressing and marvelling over your new phone for the next few weeks...

5/ After a few weeks, your "new" phone just becomes "my phone", and all the initial appeal has nearly worn off, and it just blends into your life as a day to day object...

6/ You then start to notice all the "flaws" that you missed completely through your excessive excitement, and go online, obsessively seeking dates for when the next update will be released to fix the problem that is "ruining my life"...

7/ Update comes, fixes the problems, but then another one appears - go to step #6and #7, then jump to step #8, where...

8/ Everything is fixed, now you just wait until next year, using your phone for the next 6 months, subconsciously a timer is ticking in your mind, counting down until the time you say "The new iPhone will be coming in a few months"...

GOTO STEP #1, rinse and repeat, yearly.

What unsatisfying lifes people live, chasing things that can never truly fulfill them.
 
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DISPLAY - Don't fall for the marketing BS, like others have posted, studies have shown that most people can discern higher PPI. I used to think the difference wouldn't be noticeable either, but try playing the same video or taking video simultaneously on an iPhone and an HTC One. You'll probably be surprised at how much more detail you can see on the HTC One. There is a difference; it's not night and day, but it's there. I think, given that it's 2014 now, and the state of the industry, it is time to up the PPI a bit.

RAM - You're right about RAM optimization, but Apple has optimized all it can with 1GB, and people are feeling the pinch. There isn't really much reason for Apple to not add RAM, apart from simply wanting a few extra dollars on each phone. It's a fairly simple fix that will make the phone feel faster overall, increase usability and productivity as well as give some apps bigger wings (iMovie etc.).

CPU - At the moment, I don't think they need to go over dual core, since they've demonstrated that their dual cores can at least keep up with the competition.

All that said, Apple feels the threat of all the Android flagships more than ever before. Especially compared to earlier, Android phones have now fixed most of their issues, and many flagships offer a compelling product. It used to be that you couldn't find a display of similar quality, now there are many better ones on the market. This could be said of other aspects of the device as well.

You can see Apple's response to this in doing many things that they never have before, such as including a larger screen, possibly including NFC, making apps able to talk to one another in iOS 8 (using Skype to receive a file and open it in a particular app, using Chrome as your default browser, GMail as your default mail app etc.), or custom keyboards (imagine using a Swype keyboard on an iPhone).

Apple, in the past, staunchly refused to have this kind of openness; complacent and arrogant in its place. This means that they are realizing that they can no longer do things the old way, and 1GB of RAM and an inferior display would be the "old way."

No one is saying that.

A bigger screen resolution doesn't matter on a 4" screen. You would see 0 difference. However it is imperative to use a bigger resolution on bigger screens, in order to keep the same PPI.

Keep in mind that once you do the math and factor pentile, Samsung didn't surpass the iphone's PPI with the galaxy s5.

Ram matters less on iOS, but still matters a lot and everybody is outraged. Also, remember that a moto e is faster than a galaxy s5. There's a long road to optimize ram usage.

Multi core matters only when it makes sense. If they aren't written that way, multi core brings 0 advantages in speed. Hey , the evidence is right there in the A7 and Samsung's garbage on real world usage.

Design matters. Every iPhone was criticized before being officially unveiled, but then when people saw the real thing as a finished product, they were all praised. Like this one.

Basically you pay for a much longer support, the best camera, innovative and useful features like touch ID, leader of the pack or close on thing that matter to real world usage and unmatched real world performance and ecosystem.

Other flagships offer nothing like this.

If you don't get, invest in your education first before buying phones.

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OK, someone ban this guy. Huge lack of knowledge. Guess what, Sony also makes the camera components and their own photos from phones suck!

Its all about the software (calibration or processing, in this case) and costs.
 
I had this so called "Retina display" on my iTouch 5G, but it didn't look as sharp as the S5. It was decent, but that's as far as I will go. The G3 and S5 are so much better, but I'll let you remain a misinformed person.

A display that looks better isn't necessarily a great display. Having over saturated colors makes the display looks vibrant and really nice. Do these colors have anything to do with reality? No.
 
I'm a little disappointed with screen resolution, I'm ok with 326ppi (I've seen a Nexus 5 and I've not noticed a great difference), but I was hoping for sligthly larger text/targets, so a multiple of the original 568x320 or 640x360 @3x. 1GB of RAM should be ok, but I think in 2014 there's no reason to not go to 2GB, I think its a clear example of planned obsolescence (it won't be enough for iOs 10), a little irritating for a 650$ device. But the major disappointment is for that protruding camera, how can I put it on a flat surface without a case? If these specs are all true, I'll wait for a 6S to see if they fix at least RAM and camera.
 
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