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iPad mini 40% more expensive and 30% less pixels per inch
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Percentage of tablet users is overwhelmingly tilted towards iPad, regardless of there being over 20 different android models.
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When you start seeing android tablets selling at the dollar store then you know they will gain market share. Iv'e owned countless android tablets and I owned the nexus 7 for 2 days and returned that piece of junk.
If you despise Android tablets so much, why have you owned countless numbers of them? And if, in fact, you actually have owned countless numbers of them, you'd know the 7 is among the best made in terms of screen, power, and OS.
Those who have used old Android devices and assume Android must forevermore suck haven't used the newest ones, and in particular the Nexus line. It's fine if it's not your cup of tea, but it's BS to say it sucks. It doesn't.
I've not said a single thing against the iPad mini except the price - I don't have an issue with the lower-resolution-but-larger screen. I think it's a fantastic tablet. I do, however, think it does not provide the value to justify the higher cost, which is completely opposite to my opinion of the majority of Apple products.
I find it humorous that it seems near impossible to criticize anything Apple makes without being bum-rushed by fanboys, and especially so since I've owned and loved (and love) so many Apple products - I just don't love them solely because Apple made them.
The iPad mini is overpriced. Period. Apple will sell a bazillion of them anyway, granted. But to argue that it is inherently better to pay $560 for a 32GB cellular iPad mini than it does to pay $300 for a 32GB cellular Nexus 7 is flawed. Yes, if iOS is critically important to you, then you pay what you must to get it. But the majority of you are parroting what you've heard elsewhere instead of making informed comments. I
If you've used a 7 and hate it, power to you. I can see why people would have other preferences. But it doesn't "suck", and it's a reasonable choice. If you'd actually used it, you'd know that.
Just the look and case alone is worth the premium
You know what got me over to the Mac platform and ditch PC?
Macbook UNIBODY ALUMINUM!
- sexy
- quiet
- sexy
- sexy
- sexy...
vs...
PC Laptop
- sheeittty screen
- loud
- plastic that "melts" and "dents" after a year of use
- ugly
- ugly
- bulky
- ugly
you get my point...
I got it!!!! A computer is a fashion accessory for you
FYI, Aluminium dents
Try portrait view. The advantage flips. Also, for pages that assume a wider window, the advantage shifts as well.
Show the iPad view. There's no significant difference, and, of course, you can select different keyboards.
Regardless, these are all things that can be altered with software changes. You can't alter having fewer pixels.
As an upgrade that's 2/3 the cost ($130) of a new 16GB Nexus 7, sure.
Granted, it's more of a phone thing than a tablet thing. Doesn't hurt to have it, and transferring things with it is cool, as is paying with it, but absolutely, it's not a must-have.
My 8GB Nexus 7 from this summer is going to a co-worker for $150 when my new one arrives.and good luck selling your Nexus 7 when you're tired of it. That cheap device suddenly got rather expensive.
I don't see the major loss I'm apparently taking.
The Mini has GPS available, NOBODY is asking for NFC (good lord what a reach) and good luck selling your Nexus 7 when you're tired of it. That cheap device suddenly got rather expensive.
not on the wi-fi version it doesnt. You have to pay £370 for the cell version to get gps. Compared to £160 for the n7 wi-fi version. Those apple shops must have big windows.
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So, in portait view, it's the same.
Point granted about landscape mode in Chrome, although Opera provides the ability to see more.
I don't really like the split keyboards (I use them on my iPads, but I'm not as fond of them), but I grant that it allows better visibility.
And I didn't need to sell it - I just decided to upgrade to cellular and 32GB.
When you can sell a four-month-old 16GB WiFi iPad mini and upgrade to a new 32GB cellular-enabled iPad mini for a net out-of-pocket cost of $150, let me know. Since I'm going 8GB to 32GB for the same price, it's even sweeter.
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I pretty much always view web pages in portrait mode on all of my devices, so I don't notice the issues, but I completely agree: it's subjective.
I don't personally think the iPad mini is worth the cost differential, which starts at $130 for the low-end and reaches $260 for the 32GB cellular models. However, I don't think there's anything wrong with the iPad mini. I'd love for someone to give me one. I just don't think it's worth the differential. However, I'd argue to the semantic death over why my MBA is worth more than a PC with "better specs," so I completely agree it's up to the owner.
I don't think people who buy iPad minis are stupid. Hell, given my history, it's a safe bet to say I'll end up with one. I just don't think it's a dumb choice to opt for the other tablet options, and I think those other options have a better overall value. Just MHO.
I don't think people who buy other tablets are stupid either. I think it's a choice where you balance different factors. I don't see the price being a major one though for people who keep their devices the average of 2 years or so. The cheaper devices are inevitably worth less after that period of time, and the amortized cost of going with the more expensive one is very little, even if you never re-sell.
If that's the case then sales will suffer and they'll learn their lesson. No need for yet another one of these threads. If it doesn't work for you don't buy it. Others will.
Have it run into a many android apps that don't run on the nexus 7?
I keep running into android apps that don't run on my Acer iconia tablet running ICS.
I'm seriously pissed off because some are my favorite games and some apps are needed for work. They just show up as 'incompatible' on google play.
Can you check to see if "RingCentral" runs on the Nexus 7? I'm planning to get a nexus 7, but I don't want to keep wasting money on another android tablet that don't run android apps that I need.
And your point is... what?Want to experience a headache using a Nexus 7? Using Chrome visit The Verge, Android central, or any complex webpage in desktop. Don't say use another brower, I want the "Google Experience"
The mobile site shows equally well on my iPhone 4s and the Nexus 7. The desktop site shows better on the iPhone 4s, but gizmodo.com shows better on the 7 (when it's up, which it hasn't really been since Sandy). If you want to pick and choose sites, you can always find ones that look better on some browsers than on others.
And why not allow other browsers? The oft-touted advantage of iOS (which I believe to be true) is the greater variety of apps. Why, then, rule out using apps to perform a function?
I agree: specs mean crap. But that has nothing to do with this. Meanwhile, drive from point A to point B with a base iPad mini. Oh, wait, no GPS.
A base 7 and a base iPad mini are different devices optimized for different needs, and the $130 price delta is worth it to some and not others. If you want a rear-facing camera, no 7 can fulfill your needs. If you want a GPS, you're looking at a minimum $459 on an iPad vs $199 on the 7. If there are iOS-specific apps, no 7 will meet your needs. If you want to use USB OTG, no iPad will.
I think the 7 is a better value. You don't. That's fine. I'll also concede that a part of why I think the 7 is a better value is that I have iPhones and iPod touches and iPads, so the need for a 7-8" iOS device is minimal for me, and the things a 7 can do that a mini can't (or that I'd need to pay vastly more for a mini that can) make the 7 a no-brainer.
I'm not trying to defend Apple here, I think the mini was a poor effort because of the screen. At $329 they should put a higher resolution screen in to differentiate themselves.
But in all other areas I think the mini's fine.
Glass is glass, you drop it, it's going to break, one way or the other.
Benchmarks don't mean crap. You use a 7" tablet to browse the web, check emails and access facebook for goodness sake, not to render Avatar. It's all about a smooth experience on tablets, not about the quad core processor or the 1000 more geekbench points in it. IMO browsing the web and facebook and email and books are far smoother and overall a better experience on iOS than Android - better web rendering, software polish, developer support and ecosystem.
On top of that, if you want to play games on the thing (and hence why you want a better processor) - well most games aren't optimized on Android, but they are on iOS. Add to that consideration the fact that the A5 GPU is better than Tegra 3's.
All together, the Tegra 3 vs. A5 argument in the Nexus 7 vs. iPad mini debate is moot. A quad core processor on Nexus 7 brings no benefits over the weaker A5 on the mini.
We agree on the no-brainer but I suspect from a different perspective. I live and work in a Mac world so the eco system works well for me. I bought a Nexus 7 to have a Google device. I could not have it as my only tablet, the user experience is not there yet. I prefer my Galaxy S3 over My iPhone 5, which I returned. Why doesn't the 7 run as smooth as the S3? Spec wise it should. Now that my S3 has 4.1.1 it is the best phone I have ever had.
Such clarity of reason.
The question remains: if you despise Android tablets so much, why have you owned countless numbers of them?
Keep with it, then. The improvements have been significant recently.
I agree that iOS is still, overall, the better choice for most. But the race is a lot closer than it ever was, and more and more people find Android to be more compelling.
That said, for probably 90% of the population, they buy a device, learn how to use it (more or less), and then assume that's how they all are, and for most of those people, iOS is easier to learn and more useful.
I would like to agree but buying tech that will have an outdated version of the is in 3 months kills me. The speed of the release of android products is also a turn off. Apple releasing the new iPad 8 months after the last pissed me off. The quality of fit and finish in android tablets is also suspect. It's as if they expect their own product to be a throw away device.
Did you mean OS? If so, the Nexus products are always updated first, so that's not an issue.
That's because it was via Verizon. Buy from Google, and you'll always be fresh - or at least for as long as you'd have been able to get updates on hardware from Apple bought at the same time.