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This doesn’t even matter to me anymore because I decided to stop “buying” from iTunes awhile ago, if you can even call it buying. To me when you buy something, you’ve paid the fair/agreed price for the item, and you should own and do whatever you want with the item in the privacy of your own life (not re-distributing copies of the content but allowing selling or giving away of your original copy). Not to mention, I don’t prefer the compression quality of digital download movies.

But even if I could overlook all that, I definitely could not overlook not having possession of the item I purchased. Having to depend on available reliable fast internet (which you have to pay for continuously or else no more access to the thing you bought), the seller’s servers, and the taking up of huge amounts of bandwidth, EVERY TIME I want to watch the thing I BOUGHT—well that’s not buying.

The only way this could be even remotely acceptable is if the price of streaming was substantially lower than the price of actual buying (downloading). It would have to be the same price as renting twice, $8-$10, because that’s really more accurately what you’re doing at this point.
 
This doesn’t even matter to me anymore because I decided to stop “buying” from iTunes awhile ago, if you can even call it buying. To me when you buy something, you’ve paid the fair/agreed price for the item, and you should own and do whatever you want with the item in the privacy of your own life (not re-distributing copies of the content but allowing selling or giving away of your original copy). Not to mention, I don’t prefer the compression quality of digital download movies.

But even if I could overlook all that, I definitely could not overlook not having possession of the item I purchased. Having to depend on available reliable fast internet (which you have to pay for continuously or else no more access to the thing you bought), the seller’s servers, and the taking up of huge amounts of bandwidth, EVERY TIME I want to watch the thing I BOUGHT—well that’s not buying.

The only way this could be even remotely acceptable is if the price of streaming was substantially lower than the price of actual buying (downloading). It would have to be the same price as renting twice, $8-$10, because that’s really more accurately what you’re doing at this point.
Download the movie and you won't need a lot of bandwidth each time you want to watch the movie or t.v. show.
 
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I am not sure why anyone is complaining about storage space - I have several 2-3TB drives connected to my iMac that contain my current content. Streaming is a nightmare for me I often watch movies and fall asleep watching them -I am now going to stream the movie multiple times which eats into my monthly download limit. This is not good. A bit like not being able to watch the Ultimate Edition of BVS unless connected to the internet - I soon solved that problem.
 
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I’ll go against the grain and say this doesn’t bother me. 4K streamed and compressed looks like hell anyway. The whole point of 4K is absolute best picture quality. You’re not going to get that through an internet connection. Rip the disc to a NAS.

UHD cannot be ripped
 
Well their is some reason, If it's storage issue, add a larger SSD, if it's a IP deal, come clean and communicate with us.
 
100% this is how they got distributors to agree on the free upgrade / same price deal.
This is why I try to find movies from smaller studios rather than the big guys. Most of the time these movies are just as good or better than the one the big guys films are and they are sold at half the price.
 
Fekking awesome! I have a 20Meg connection!

I thought I was lucky having just received my 4K Apple TV this morning as I live in NZ. If I had know this when I ordered, I wouldn't have!

I did wonder why Wonder Woman looked so crappy when I tried it out this morning! My TV has Netflix 4K and that looks fantastic so why can't Apple manage it?

Back to plan B and get an UHD player.

I'm not a happy bunny this morning....

Apple encodes at a higher bitrate. Netflix 4k only uses about 15megs at full quality but looks crappier.
 
Great! In an era when ISPs are trying to bring datacaps to home internet and the FCC wants to lower the definition of broadband from 25MB to 10MB, we get this.

Slow internet can’t stream and capped means you get to pay extra to stream the content you own if you watch the movie twice (which is kind of the point of buying stead of renting).

Yes, it sounds like studio licensing nonsense and no I do not like it one bit.
 
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Why? I can download 25Gb+ really quickly.

Store the movie (other provider beside iTunes) on an external drive and you will have it anytime you want to watch it.

Ok I agree, I’m for downloading. I was confused because you said I should download, when this thread is about iTunes not offering downloads. It would have helped if you mentioned you were talking about another provider...
 
Assuming Apple/the studios upgrade EVERYTHING in movies eventually... Well, I'll probably get flamed & shamed, but I've embraced the digital platform for years. My Movie library alone wouldn't fit on a 12 TB hard drive at 4K sizes. And that doesn't take into account TV Shows in HD... I'm pretty close to having to invest in a 20+ TB NAS for my library in HD as it is.
everything thru itunes ?
 


...customers who have had their previously-purchased iTunes movies upgraded from HD to 4K at no cost can stream those movies in 4K, but can only download HD versions. Newly purchased content is also restricted from download...

Article Link: 4K iTunes Content Limited to Streaming Only, No Downloads


Operation: Deal-Breaker
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Apple encodes at a higher bitrate. Netflix 4k only uses about 15megs at full quality but looks crappier.

I'll bet it's not as crappy as Amazon or Hoopla! Bam!
 
As i already mentioned in the previous threads, Google has NEVER updated the YouTube app on the ATV4. Its 2 years old. Stop pointing the blame at Apple and ask Google why they NEVER UPDATED THEIR OWN APP.
As was mentioned to you in the previous thread, Google updating the ATV app has nothing to do with not being able to view 4K Youtube. 4K Youtube uses the VP9 codec. Apple does not support the VP9 codec. So either Google would have to pony up a huge amount of money to pay royalties to HEVC Advance or Apple would have to support the VP9 codec. The likelihood of either of those happening is pretty slim without some miracle. So probably for the foreseeable future, there will be no 4K Youtube on the ATV.

Please stop with the app update claim. It's immaterial.
 
Stupid Apple. I have a 1GB internet connection and downloading/storing movies is easy. With this I’d rather just purchase a 4K disc and watch the movie in its best resolution. I hate that Apple will determine the resolution on the fly for streaming. I’d rather download if and guarantee 4K.
 
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