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5 year old "voted out of class" by classmates
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not to hijack this thread, but I thought most people did vote for Bush last time
Returning to the topic at hand; this is really revolting and to some extent laughable - that school teacher that got kicked for showing nudity to her kids (due to a pop-up jumping up or somesuch) while this one, atleast for now, is safe - if I were a parent in that school I would not allow my child to return to school before the matter has been handled properly
What I'm concerned about is who gave her the idea of running a kindergarten classroom Survivor-style, and how many other people that they told that that particular classroom philosophy was alright.
In any case, I would hope that all the other educators who were told that that is acceptable have more common sense than this particular teacher.
In any case, I would hope that all the other educators who were told that that is acceptable have more common sense than this particular teacher.
that is what it sounds like. I am worried that people will twist the fact the school districe will not and can not comment into they are trying to cover it up.
Reality is they will never announce the punishment because of privacy reasons and it is a fairly common practice not to tell any one the punishment in any industry.
My guess is she will either get a major reprimand or suspension. I do not think she will get fired over this partly because of the teacher shortage.
I dunno, maybe the kid has poopy pants because he eats crayons? These kinds of truths need to come out.
We have to do something about school overcrowding. Maybe this was just an attempt to decrease the pupil-to-teacher ratio for the good of the community.
Mother of gawd, that was a BAD one Every time I think we've finally reached rock-bottom, something like this comes up and I realise there's still a ways to go
Somebody oughtta sit the 14 down and set the record straight with them about what the vote is supposed to be about and what really is a right and what isn't, otherwise they'll take all the wrong things out of this incident. And this age is where most of us gain our first understnading of the difference between right and wrong (early socialization), which just shows how bloody dangerous that would be. You let those kids take away from this entire incident that it's OK and even your right to abuse the hard-earned right to self-govern for bullying the weak, and you're essentially doing your level best to turn them into a bunch of sociopaths--a pack of wolves. Don't be surprised if they're running around mugging, raping and killing left right and centre within ten years.
Similarly, they should give a BIG pat on the back to the two who didn't vote for the exclusion (assuming one of them wasn't the little guy himself ) I dunno how they managed to stand against the tide, but it seems they did it. I'm surprised--when I read the first line or so I was pretty sure it would have been unanimous since nobody would have dared go against not only the whole class, but the teacher too--but it also gives me some hope that it's not all f*cked--yet.
Anyway, I hope that POS excuse for a teacher rots in the black bowels of screaming hell.
Every time I think we've finally reached rock-bottom, something like this comes up and I realise there's still a ways to go Somebody oughtta sit the 14 down and set the record straight with them about what the vote is supposed to be about and what really is a right and what isn't, otherwise they'll take all the wrong things out of this incident. And this age is where most of us gain our first understnading of the difference between right and wrong (early socialization), which just shows how bloody dangerous that would be. You let those kids take away from this entire incident that it's OK and even your right to abuse the hard-earned right to self-govern for bullying the weak, and you're essentially doing your level best to turn them into a bunch of sociopaths--a pack of wolves. Don't be surprised if they're running around mugging, raping and killing left right and centre within ten years.
Similarly, they should give a BIG pat on the back to the two who didn't vote for the exclusion (assuming one of them wasn't the little guy himself
) I dunno how they managed to stand against the tide, but it seems they did it. I'm surprised--when I read the first line or so I was pretty sure it would have been unanimous since nobody would have dared go against not only the whole class, but the teacher too--but it also gives me some hope that it's not all f*cked--yet.Anyway, I hope that POS excuse for a teacher rots in the black bowels of screaming hell.
Omg
I am so upset over what this child did to this little boy. I myself have a child with Asperger's so I can sympathize with her!.
She definitely is not a teacher. A teacher is there to teach children how to accept one another, who is wise and does not judge, patient with all, willing to go the extra mile and never leave a child beyond. She has done just the opposite. She should not have a job teaching and should have been immediately put on administration leave pending a full investigation by the school board. The principal should have their job in question as well. I would like to know what gave this teacher the right to do this to any child? Who does she think she is? Look at the 2 kids who did not vote to have alex thrown out of the class? They have more sense than she does. I would be afraid that she would start treating my child poorly because he/she had the common sense to know right from wrong!!!!
I know that if this was my son's teacher I would be up their everyday until something was done. I am truly blessed that my son's teacher's go the extra mile for him! They are always there to help him! They are truly teachers!
She evidently has issues and perhaps she needs to own up that she only wants to teach perfect children, ones that don't need her to work with them, help them etc. Does she really know how to teach??????
I say we bring this bitch out to town square and not only vote her out of the school but from teaching, the state of florida and the united states. Let everyone who has seen this news report tell her what we think of her and see if she can handle it. Then tell her, her family doesn't want her either, her friends don't want her and society doesn't want her.
I am so upset over what this child did to this little boy. I myself have a child with Asperger's so I can sympathize with her!.
She definitely is not a teacher. A teacher is there to teach children how to accept one another, who is wise and does not judge, patient with all, willing to go the extra mile and never leave a child beyond. She has done just the opposite. She should not have a job teaching and should have been immediately put on administration leave pending a full investigation by the school board. The principal should have their job in question as well. I would like to know what gave this teacher the right to do this to any child? Who does she think she is? Look at the 2 kids who did not vote to have alex thrown out of the class? They have more sense than she does. I would be afraid that she would start treating my child poorly because he/she had the common sense to know right from wrong!!!!
I know that if this was my son's teacher I would be up their everyday until something was done. I am truly blessed that my son's teacher's go the extra mile for him! They are always there to help him! They are truly teachers!
She evidently has issues and perhaps she needs to own up that she only wants to teach perfect children, ones that don't need her to work with them, help them etc. Does she really know how to teach??????
I say we bring this bitch out to town square and not only vote her out of the school but from teaching, the state of florida and the united states. Let everyone who has seen this news report tell her what we think of her and see if she can handle it. Then tell her, her family doesn't want her either, her friends don't want her and society doesn't want her.
I really don't see why it was neccersary for them to say bad things about him, let alone vote him out of the class, that teacher is a terrible role model.
I wonder how long it'll be before she gets over the incident compared to the child, he's probably going to remember this for a few years, if not the rest of his life...
I wonder how long it'll be before she gets over the incident compared to the child, he's probably going to remember this for a few years, if not the rest of his life...
This is really sick. Not that there are enough issues for kids at school by the kids themselves, but "Hey, let the teachers in on it now" is insane.
What truly scares me though, is the teacher gets what she wanted with no strings attached. Alex is out of her hair, and now getting some form of home education. Is this what is to become of any child with any form of disability?
What truly scares me though, is the teacher gets what she wanted with no strings attached. Alex is out of her hair, and now getting some form of home education. Is this what is to become of any child with any form of disability?
First of all, if this were my child, they would've put me in jail for assault.
The teacher should lose her job at least, and I think should be prosecuted.
However, if the mother has any sort of support system around her, her child will be much better off home schooled than he would have been in the public school system. He will get a better education and will have the specialized attention that he needs.
(Yes, I'm a home schooling mom!)
In the school system I work for... You would be fired in MINUTES for doing this, minutes - And rightfully so.
Absolutely disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting.
The teacher and the kid's classmates are a bunch of morons. I fear that, in 10-15 years, people might ask why this kid went on a shooting rampage. The teacher, and all the kids, do need a good beat down, though.
You know, the more I think about this, the more I agree. I am a new father of a 12-week old baby boy. I love how he smiles back at me when I smile at him. The thought of a teacher or other kids voting him out of class makes my blood boil. I would also be in jail for assault. I ####ing HATE people sometimes.
My son is 6, with no disabilities, but i still am super-protective of him; I can only imagine how this mother must have felt. I don't know if it is possible, but I think that the parents of the other children in the class should get together and buy the child a gift and have the class present it to him along with a sincere apology and a few hugs. It's hard to know exactly what goes on inside the head of a 5-year-old, but I think a heart-felt apology would help him to heal.
After that, of course fire the teacher. If I were a parent of a child in that class, I would do my best to have my child removed from that class. If all the parents did this, the school board would be forced to address the issue. Surely there are no parents who would've agreed with this abuse.
After that, of course fire the teacher. If I were a parent of a child in that class, I would do my best to have my child removed from that class. If all the parents did this, the school board would be forced to address the issue. Surely there are no parents who would've agreed with this abuse.
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you've got the better direction than the other comments....sure the teacher might possibly be punished for this idea....but it was these "STUDENTS" that voted the kid out. No matter what the teacher did...those students will be later now laying out "bear traps" for this kid regardless if the teacher is removed or not because these kids see the power they have....these punks will bully this kid all through his grammar school years and even possibly into his high schooling....its these kinds of sadistic smart mouthing punks that play the game yet readily join forces when they see they can destroy the self esteem of a victim.....this goes on all the time. and to extend that how many school "nuts" went off in a school and wasted a few and then himself because exactly a situation like this had happened to him and he was bullied all through school years because he couldn't escape it and finally blows up....there are simply too many of these circumstances going on in so many public schools and these school heads continue to make the wrong decisions that leave the little boy a continual victim....and then later on he blows his top, maybe at school, maybe in the service and wastes an Iraq family because the memory of himself being bullied comes out only now he can "get back" and get away with it.
you've got the better direction than the other comments....sure the teacher might possibly be punished for this idea....but it was these "STUDENTS" that voted the kid out. No matter what the teacher did...those students will be later now laying out "bear traps" for this kid regardless if the teacher is removed or not because these kids see the power they have....these punks will bully this kid all through his grammar school years and even possibly into his high schooling....its these kinds of sadistic smart mouthing punks that play the game yet readily join forces when they see they can destroy the self esteem of a victim.....this goes on all the time. and to extend that how many school "nuts" went off in a school and wasted a few and then himself because exactly a situation like this had happened to him and he was bullied all through school years because he couldn't escape it and finally blows up....there are simply too many of these circumstances going on in so many public schools and these school heads continue to make the wrong decisions that leave the little boy a continual victim....and then later on he blows his top, maybe at school, maybe in the service and wastes an Iraq family because the memory of himself being bullied comes out only now he can "get back" and get away with it.
I understand your point.
My concern is
1. Home schooling has the potential for addressing specific needs, but this is not unilateral. Specifically, the child will lose the social interaction that exists in a classroom based facility. Opportunities for life lessons just aren't as available, and will create potential problems with human interaction as he gets older. I know home schooling tries to address this, but the occasional field trip doesn't fulfill this need adequately. Its just not frequent enough.
2. Allowing a teacher/school district to operate in this manner, will set a horrible precedent. Sacrifice a few kids to make life easier for teachers and school districts that are unwilling to make the necessary adjustments to their curriculum and policies. (It seems to me, that his teacher didn't have the patience needed. Nor did the school district, in allowing her to do something like this without any form of reprimand).
Private school has the ability to address these issues, but hasn't been mentioned in the article. I assume that the cost is the reason. If his mom can't cover the expenses, I can't imagine the school district doing so.
Please understand that these comments are from my own experience and observations in regard to home schooling.
If it turns out that the boy does indeed have Asperger's, he's not going to miss the social interaction. Additionally, he's going to have to be taught the social skills that most normal people take for granted they way that schoolchildren are taught long division.nanofrog said:
This is already being done by 'diagnosing' kids with ADD or something or other and drugging them. Oddly enough, kids with Asperger's stand a high chance of being misdiagnosed as having some form of ADD.nanofrog said:
nanofrog said:
If he was eating crayons, wouldn't he be pooping in colors?
On a serious note, I hope this teacher gets fired and flogged. Thats a horrible thing to do to any child, but even worse with his disability. The teacher needs to learn that this is real life, not crappy reality TV. Thanks to this one thing, this kid could possibly be ridiculed now for the remainder of the time he is there.
Socialization is a moot point, actually. Children being "socialized" by their peers keeps them immature and unable to function in society. Children socialized with mature adults teaches them to behave as such. If this boy's diagnosis is accurate, it woud probably be the best thing for him.
Just my personal situation - my children have so much social time, it's unreal. Church, home school groups, organized sports, working at our modular home business which involves dealing with customers in person and by telephone and email. At ages 16 and 6, they are intelligent, polite, well-spoken, and confident.
I understand completely.
Though I think the teacher should be fired. I don't think it will happen because of the death grip teachers unions have on schools.
. This was the 80's near the ending of the John Wayne / Arnold Schwarzenegger manliness solutions era of this country.
Well for handling the kids picking on him he could be taught how to fight. I was tormented mercilessly in early grammar school then my Dad taught me how to box (he was ranked 2nd in Maine). After knocking around a few of the kids that picked on me the torment ended. Once my problems were sorted out I would take on any bully that was picking on some smaller weaker kid. Of course the school system I went to as a child wasn't run by completely pacifist ninnies like they are now a days
. This was the 80's near the ending of the John Wayne / Arnold Schwarzenegger manliness solutions era of this country.
i've been reading the comments on the local papers, and it's appalling and somewhat disturbing on how many people are defending the actions of the teacher, ranging from "the kid was denying the other children their right to learn" to "bad children need to be punished" to "the teacher is taking a stand against political correctness". there is always another way to discipline the child, what this teacher did was unacceptable.
First off, we're only getting one side of the story. We don't know what actually happened leading up to 'the vote'. Maybe the boy asked for it?!?
By all means, let's hang the teacher. I'm sure she just teaches for all the BIG money that she's making. And, if I had a child in that class, by all means, have the teacher spend at least 9/10ths of her day teaching that ONE problem child that absolutely needs the extra special attention... 'cause don't you know that ALL teachers are specially trained in dealing with the numerous behavioral disorders that are out there....that's why they make the big bucks, right?
Get real, people. Have you stopped to think that it's probably not all the teachers fault? Do you think there might be something at a higher level going on? Why the hell do you think teachers go in to their profession? It's CERTAINLY NOT FOR THE MONEY. Maybe you would attract a better quality of teacher if you actually PAID THEM FOR WHAT THEIR WORTH....or HAD PROGRAMS FOR SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS....
Aw, but hell no. That requires an increase in property taxes. When you ask anybody to actually PAY for a good idea or a good program, even if it involves the futures of our children, people vote it down....just like the kid got voted out of the class.
By all means, let's hang the teacher. I'm sure she just teaches for all the BIG money that she's making.
And, if I had a child in that class, by all means, have the teacher spend at least 9/10ths of her day teaching that ONE problem child that absolutely needs the extra special attention... 'cause don't you know that ALL teachers are specially trained in dealing with the numerous behavioral disorders that are out there....that's why they make the big bucks, right?Get real, people. Have you stopped to think that it's probably not all the teachers fault? Do you think there might be something at a higher level going on? Why the hell do you think teachers go in to their profession? It's CERTAINLY NOT FOR THE MONEY. Maybe you would attract a better quality of teacher if you actually PAID THEM FOR WHAT THEIR WORTH....or HAD PROGRAMS FOR SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS....
Aw, but hell no. That requires an increase in property taxes. When you ask anybody to actually PAY for a good idea or a good program, even if it involves the futures of our children, people vote it down....just like the kid got voted out of the class.
Are you arguing that bad teachers aren't at fault when they do bad things because they aren't paid as much as they might be? It would be nice to have higher salaries to attract better teachers, but we can still point out the bad ones that are in the system.