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54% of H.264 Web Video Now Available in HTML5

macUser2007 said:
Yay, those suckers who don't have Flash can now see about half of all the H.264 video on the web...! :rolleyes: And still can see NONE of most other video available on the web.

To boot, a large part of the general "HTML5" video increase is due to the fact that Google encodes 720p+ videos uploaded to Youtube in WebM, which is of course NOT supported by Safari.

And finally, even if all video was magically available in H.264 today, many great sites will still not be available to those without Flash.

Just the facts, ma'am.
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Yep go ahead keep catering to their every whim. They will never change.

Sorry if you can't visit Blues Clues without using flash.
 
Editorial fail

Didn't anyone RTFA?

Our final tally included only video that can be delivered within HTML5’s “video” tag. In the vast majority of cases, this means videos were encoded in H.264.
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It means that the encoding of the video is compatible with HTML5 (on selected browsers) - but they don't give a number for how many videos are available via HTML5 rather than Flash.

Will the editors please change the story to reflect this, it's rather misleading and the "researcher" seems to have extrapolated much of their results.

And a side note... as Safari uses Quicktime to play from the <video> tag - it is just a plugin like Flash, Jobs's battle is for his proprietary player agains Adobe's.

Phil.
 
alent1234 said:
the html5 video is all user generated crap that doesn't need any protection or DRM. even Google is using Flash for video that needs DRM protection. i don't know of any html5 solution to protect video from being downloaded that the owner doesn't want downloaded

even apple is using itunes/quicktime instead of the web for rented video playback
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Yes because it's so difficult to download flash videos or record live flash feeds......:rolleyes:
 
so far not impressed with HTML5 video

kinless said:
I'm more curious to know if developers are using the OGG video format for HTML5 or just falling back to the flash version if FireFox is detected...
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Well the last Apple keynote (Back to the Mac) was apparently in an HTML5 format compatible with Firefox 3.6. It was pretty wretched. If I paused the video for any reason (like to stop my cats from fighting in the other room or to grab a drink from the fridge), when I started it back up all I got was a green image for about 30 seconds while the audio played. Never had a problem like that with any Flash video player. Now maybe it's because it was Firefox 3.6, maybe it was because HTML5 itself is still very young and HTML5 video needs to be refined over time, but so far I'm not impressed with it.
 
MrWillie said:
Well they better stop quickly, because less and less of their customer base is able to see them.
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Hear, hear. And more browser users are learning to muzzle flash with click-to-flash plugins on their laptop and desk top computers every day. The media attention being brought to flash-blocking on the iPad tends to bring awareness that flash is optional for everyone. It's a downward spiral.

Actually, I like it when websites continue to use flash for their ads, because I see nothing at all.
 
Just because something is encoded in h.264 doesn't mean it's delivered with the HTML5 tag. A lot of video has been encoded in h.264 but the PLAYERS are flash based.

BTW - if you want to kiss flash goodbye - you can also kiss the websites that enable users to record their own videos and either upload direct or stream through their servers - because that's a function of flash technology and doesn't exist (yet?) with HTML5.

HTML is in its infancy as far as true adoption and usage. It's not nearly ready to be a replacement. A step in the right direction - yes.. maybe. But it's not a going to kick out flash for quite awhile.

kntgsp said:
Yes because it's so difficult to download flash videos or record live flash feeds......:rolleyes:
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For the general public - yeah - it is. It's something they either don't do or don't bother with. People need to stop projecting their use cases/experience on the billions of other people who are on the web.
 
Looks good. Hopefully this kills Flash off faster than anticipated. I personally hope everything Adobe dies.. other than Photoshop, of course.
 
freiheit said:
Well the last Apple keynote (Back to the Mac) was apparently in an HTML5 format compatible with Firefox 3.6. It was pretty wretched. If I paused the video for any reason (like to stop my cats from fighting in the other room or to grab a drink from the fridge), when I started it back up all I got was a green image for about 30 seconds while the audio played. Never had a problem like that with any Flash video player. Now maybe it's because it was Firefox 3.6, maybe it was because HTML5 itself is still very young and HTML5 video needs to be refined over time, but so far I'm not impressed with it.
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It was flawless on my iPad, and that my friend is all I care about. It's all I use for the web now.
 
DougB541 said:
While Flash is far from great on mobile devices....i have used it on my Evo randomly from time to time.


Good to have if needed...nothing more nothing less. Those who never want it on their mobile devices don't make sense to me.....you have the option to keep it off completely. (mine is set to "On Demand" so i click a flash element anytime i need to use it.
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i've done the same thing on my iphone. It's amazing how much garbage on the internet is in flash. When i load a website on my iPHone a bunch of boxes pop up that are flash based. When you click on it to play 9 times out of 10 it's an ad. It's pretty easy to spot which are ads and which aren't. Since i've put flash on my iphone for i've probably used it..... twice a month? That's about right.
 
While I'm glad to see the explosion of HTML5 video, it's going to take a very long time to replace the Flash content on the internet.
 
kepardue said:
That's simply not true. HTML5 video is agnostic of DRM. Videos may easily be obfuscated within HTML5. And DRM may be implemented within the H.264 encapsulation of the video itself, completely separate from the HTML5. Just because nobody's doing it *now* doesn't mean that it can't be done. Apple, in their restrictive lovefest with DRM, wouldn't be investing so heavily in it if that were the case.
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What is required is a multiplatform DRM solution; Sun Microsystems not too long ago had a project called DReaM now known as 'Open Media Commons':

http://www.openmediacommons.org/

Then try to get the likes of Firefox and Opera to support it - both have already demonstrated a complete refusal to support h264 so getting them to support DRM seems like an impossibility.
 
NebulaClash said:
Apple has reached the point where they cannot be ignored. If they push a particular technology, people listen. Some might disagree and go in another direction, but they know about and talk about what Apple says and does.

Apple is the dominant mindshare company at the moment in the consumer electronic market.
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And they really did it since the iPhone...in three years!

(their impact with iPods did raise mindshare, but not like the iPhone, touch and iPad have)
 
Not all video should or can be converted to HTML5. Linear streams of video should use HTML5 on mobile, but interactive video or vector-based Flash either doesn’t convert, sacrifices quality or uses more resources (filesize).

I understand the need for HTML5 video as an alternative, but I don’t think it is smart as the one and only option (killing Flash) when certain videos become inaccessible. I thought accessibility was the goal. Not killing a competing format.
 
FloatingBones said:
Hear, hear. And more browser users are learning to muzzle flash with click-to-flash plugins on their laptop and desk top computers every day. The media attention being brought to flash-blocking on the iPad tends to bring awareness that flash is optional for everyone. It's a downward spiral.

Actually, I like it when websites continue to use flash for their ads, because I see nothing at all.
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Do you enjoy censorship? I do not.
 
Blocking Flash apps != censorship

Nobody has the right to run apps on my computer without my permission.

Nobody has the right to run Flash apps in my browser without my permission.

Why in heaven's name would you call that censorship?

azurehi said:
Do you enjoy censorship? I do not.
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I have an iPhone 3GS and YouTube videos, Ustream and Justin.tv all play just about everything. I can’t think of a video in the last two weeks I’ve wanted to see that I couldn’t.

I know Flash is still dominate but changes have been occurring quickly. I love it.
 
FloatingBones said:
Nobody has the right to run apps on my computer without my permission.

Nobody has the right to run Flash apps in my browser without my permission.

Why in heaven's name would you call that censorship?
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Perhaps I look at flash differently than You: When I want to view a video clip I do Not wish to have "nothing"...I want to see the clip. On the iPad, when I attempt to view the following link, for example, I see Nothing: the late Jean Ritchie performing her song, Black Waters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFVdp1KJiqM
So much old video content will never be converted to HTML5...I want to be able to see it all.
 
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