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Before crying censorship....

Perhaps I look at flash differently than You: When I want to view a video clip I do Not wish to have "nothing"...I want to see the clip.

Here's what I originally said that you claimed was censorship:

Hear, hear. And more browser users are learning to muzzle flash with click-to-flash plugins on their laptop and desk top computers every day. The media attention being brought to flash-blocking on the iPad tends to bring awareness that flash is optional for everyone. It's a downward spiral.

Actually, I like it when websites continue to use flash for their ads, because I see nothing at all.

On my computer, all of the Flash is muzzled by click-to-flash plugins. When I want to view a Flash video or run a Flash program, I click on it. My computer; my rules.

On your computer, you set the rules. If you want to load and run each and every Flash app on the pages you view, have at it. If you like exposing yourself to CPU-suck, identity leakage through Flash cookies, and the security risks of running all Flash apps you encounter, that is your right. I may think that's a silly way to run your computer, but I will vigorously defend your right to run your machine that way.

On the iPad, when I attempt to view the following link, for example, I see Nothing: the late Jean Ritchie performing her song, Black Waters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFVdp1KJiqM
So much old video content will never be converted to HTML5...I want to be able to see it all.

But that isn't censorship, either. It's simply website owners failing to get all of their content up-to-date. If they wish to exclude themselves from the 120M+ iOS devices, that is their right.

Those iOS users now have another option. There is now a $2.99 iOS App from skyfire.com to display Flash videos. If you don't want to wait for the website owners to get their act together, you might want to get that app.

Apple isn't censoring anyone; they chose to not support Flash on their browser. One third-party solution has already sprung forth; odds are high that other third-party solutions will happen in the near future. Apple is supporting those third-party solutions: they approved the Skyfire app for the App Store.

In post #70 of this thread, you characterized my use of click-to-flash plugins as "censorship". It was not. Further, any choices Apple made about Flash on the iPad are not censorship, either. If the present and future options for viewing videos on your iPad are not sufficient for you, feel free to return it, sell it, give it away, or destroy it. If you choose to destroy it, Tom Dickson suggests one way to do that. That YouTube video plays correctly on my iPod Touch.

Before claiming censorship, please make absolutely sure that someone or something is actually being censored. The word should be used carefully. Thanks!
 
Perhaps I look at flash differently than You: When I want to view a video clip I do Not wish to have "nothing"...I want to see the clip. On the iPad, when I attempt to view the following link, for example, I see Nothing: the late Jean Ritchie performing her song, Black Waters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFVdp1KJiqM
So much old video content will never be converted to HTML5...I want to be able to see it all.

Well they sure fixed that fast... it played fine on my iPad just now. [what, one week after your post?]

FWIW, we can often force YouTube to provide the non-Flash (mp4) version by adding &fmt=18 to the link...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFVdp1KJiqM&fmt=18

...and the HTML5 version (if one exists) via...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFVdp1KJiqM&html5=True

--{posted from my iPad}--


EDIT: actually, I guess that &fmt=18 version is still wrapped in Flash somehow[?]... BUT, if we pull the resulting FlashTemp0 file out of the /var/folders/*/*/TemporaryItems/ folder where Safari caches it, we can rename it with a .mp4 or .m4v extension... and QuickTime Player and/or iTunes (or even QuickLook) will play it just fine. [no VLC required.]
 
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Perhaps I look at flash differently than You: When I want to view a video clip I do Not wish to have "nothing"...I want to see the clip. On the iPad, when I attempt to view the following link, for example, I see Nothing: the late Jean Ritchie performing her song, Black Waters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFVdp1KJiqM
So much old video content will never be converted to HTML5...I want to be able to see it all.

Opens in HTML5 for me..
content
 
I've gone totally non-Flash on my main computer - got rid of the Flash/Shockwave related plugins in /Library/Internet Plugins (Flash Player.plugin, flashplayer.xpt, NP-PPC-Dir-Shockwave) and installed the Safari extension YouTube5. This converts YouTube to HTML5 and works better than the YouTube HTML5 beta. (Edit: I just checked CPU usage on a HD video, full screen, and it's 10-15% on a i7 MBP)

Since I no longer hide Flash with ClickToFlash, my Mac is no longer pretending to support Flash and sites like MacRumors that sometimes have Flash ads now display static ads. And because I'm using Safari I'm not being bugged about installing the Flash plugin when other sites try to display Flash.

And I don't miss it.

I can't do it to our other two computers since the kids sometimes use them for online games.

Can this be done if I am using Opera on OS X 10.6.4? Or are there other/additional files I have to remove? Will have to install another plugin to get youtube in html5?

Sorry for going offtopic but I would love to do this.
 
Thanks FloatingBones for your clarifying comments and setting me straight. And then Hal Itosis for the info and PurrBall for the update. Back to the Apple Store to try the iPad again. At this point though, waiting for the next iteration will probably be what I will do.
 
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