Perfectly fine at 3840x1620 with HiDPI. I think you can change some fonts larger
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5K2K at 120Hz with Mac Mini M4
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That's just panel production. Actual monitors you can buy might at best be announced at CES in January and be available in stores in anything from a few months later to by the end of the year.
For desktop use the U4025QW should be alright even with its poor-ish response times, lack of proper HDR etc, if you can find it at a reasonable price. It's absurdly expensive for what it is in my country.
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U4025Qw is 2000 Dollars in my country , it’s quite expensive , I’ll be buying an OLED 5K2K that Samsung or Lg announces this CES
Yes exactly , it’ll be announced at CES availability would be later on.
U4025Qw is 2000 Dollars in my country , it’s quite expensive , I’ll be buying an OLED 5K2K that Samsung or Lg announces this CES
About $1800 over here, which is just nuts for what it is. At that price, it's best to wait for something better.
To be fair , I don’t think there’s any other 5K2K monitor that can compete with it
Panel mass production is scheduled for 4Q24 and could already be well under way, so displays shipping shortly after CES is a possibility. Note this is only the LG 45" panel, so far.
Well, I paid significantly less for my 57" 7680x2160 superultrawide which is superior in almost every spec except KVM and USB-C support. That display has to be run as two displays though or else you won't get sensible scaling options on MacOS.
Depends on your perception but that size is way too big for most people to comfortably use
Update.. 8K Ugreen cable turned up today. Still doesn't work. Cannot get 3840 x 1620 on the M4 MAX on my U4021QW.
No idea since I have neither that monitor nor the M4 Max. (I have the plain M4.)
I didn’t realise you have the max chip .
There’s something wrong on your end
, 3840x1620 hidpi is confirmed on M2Pro/Max , M3 Pro / Max . There’s absolutely no way it won’t be supported on an M4 Max
I just bought it at B&H for $1499 and used the Payboo card to get tax removed. The one problem with B&H is you pretty much have no return policy, but it's definitely a great price for what you're getting. The internal dock and port options are worth a lot for me as well.
And you've tried the TB4 cable that came with the monitor?
Also, did you plug it into the TB port on the monitor that came with the orange plug in it? I plugged it into the TB port next to that one (no plug) and everything worked automatically with an M4 Pro chip.
I'm assuming the U4021QW is basically the same setup as the U4025QW I have, but maybe something is different.
Funny you say that bc the prior comment from the poster was the first time I’d noticed that they had a 4021 and not the 4025. Makes you wonder.
There's no orange plug? I plugged TB4 cable into mac and monitor into only TB input. Monitor sees it as TB but only gives me 3360 x 1418 in HiDPI (or 5120 x 2160 of course). I tried a Better Display virtual screen but all sorts of things went wrong and had to uninstall. Flecible scaling via BD doesn't work. Something is amiss as I used to get high res no problem on the M1 MAX. Perhaps I have a bad M4. I will try Apple Support tomorrow...
@rojharris - virtual screen mirroring should mostly work, but it's certainly not an ideal solution and indeed a lot of things can go wrong. 🙃 With Sequoia 15.2 the great thing is that at least Apple fixed the Catalyst crashes for 8K+ desktops so with a virtual screen one could now go beyond 3840px HiDPI which is useful for some larger 5K/8K ultrawides.
But about native scaling - I saw all kinds of results (3072px, 3360px, 3840px HiDPI width). Maybe the OP could post a poll about who has which option working on a 5K2K display and with what config (M4 vs M4 Pro and USB-C DisplayPort Alt Mode/ThunderBolt/HDMI) - this could probably help clarify things.
For those who has 3840px working (I believe it is only @MxDaviD, right?), can somebody help with some extra info?
- Are you on macOS 15.0, 15.1 or 15.2 beta?
- Is this the sole display connected?
- What is the conection (USB-C DisplayPort Alt Mode/ThunderBolt/HDMI)?
- Is your Mac newly set up or migrated from an other Mac?
- Can you run the following command with BetterDisplay installed and running and attach the result (modes.txt on the desktop)? This should list all available display modes and low level modes for the display.
(note - if the display does not have `dell` in it's name, then the command must be changed to reflect some part of the display's name)
It would also be useful to see what's under the `Display Information…` block for the display in BetterDisplay and maybe have an EDID extract so I can try semi-simulating a connection to that display on my M4.
But about native scaling - I saw all kinds of results (3072px, 3360px, 3840px HiDPI width). Maybe the OP could post a poll about who has which option working on a 5K2K display and with what config (M4 vs M4 Pro and USB-C DisplayPort Alt Mode/ThunderBolt/HDMI) - this could probably help clarify things.
For those who has 3840px working (I believe it is only @MxDaviD, right?), can somebody help with some extra info?
- Are you on macOS 15.0, 15.1 or 15.2 beta?
- Is this the sole display connected?
- What is the conection (USB-C DisplayPort Alt Mode/ThunderBolt/HDMI)?
- Is your Mac newly set up or migrated from an other Mac?
- Can you run the following command with BetterDisplay installed and running and attach the result (modes.txt on the desktop)? This should list all available display modes and low level modes for the display.
Code:
/Applications/BetterDisplay.app/Contents/MacOS/BetterDisplay get -n=dell -displayModeList -connectionModeListAll >~/Desktop/modes.txtIt would also be useful to see what's under the `Display Information…` block for the display in BetterDisplay and maybe have an EDID extract so I can try semi-simulating a connection to that display on my M4.
@waydabber
I'm on 15.1, This is the olnly display, Thunderbolt 4, Newly setup, I had to screenshot the Display info as I couldn't select it so an Attaching files. (modes is here too) Thanks!
Sorry about that, I just looked and the ports are definitely different on the U4021QW (and no orange plugs).
Hi @waydabber, in case it's useful, I've attached the output from that command on my LG 40WP95C-W. I haven't been able to get it to go over 3360x1418 on my M4 Pro MacBook Pro, connected via TB.
Here's the EDID (base64-encoded):
Here's the EDID (base64-encoded):
Code:
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I bought it from best buy and they just priced matched it. using 10% back from best buy card plus some additional cash back website. think its a good deal comparing to studio display and other 32 inch QD -Oleds that I looked at.
Hello Guys,
I can see that someone else got a U4025QW working with the base M4.I am happy I am not the only one
I have also been debating the Apple Studio Display before this Dell and I have to say that for me, this is the better display....
I can see that someone else got a U4025QW working with the base M4.I am happy I am not the only one
I have also been debating the Apple Studio Display before this Dell and I have to say that for me, this is the better display....