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60 GB Color Screen Photo-Capable iPod?
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ASP272 said:
Ok, if they go to an OLED display instead of a LCD display (given the size of the screen, its quite possible) it will have lower power consumption - that and a more efficient drive might off set the viewing of pics and keep the battery life at a decent level.
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I do think apple will go with Picasa for the Wintel crowd, as already said... MWSF 05 will be the latest date for the release, IMO, but before X-mas will make me a lot happier!!! I have been waiting a lot for this!!!, I hope this to be true...
the people who invented the disposable cell phone battery need to create a disposable ipod battery. sell them in target/ walmart. it would be a big hit. theres lots of times i see my ipod battery is low when i thought i charged it, then FOR a TEMPORARY solution you can use a four hour cheap battery to get by. it isnt a terrible idea, but i know apple dislikes pollution and would see that as bad marketing.
The Road to Hell is Paved with New Features
I think this is probably inevtiable, but it is also the beginning of the end. Of course, Apple needs to compete with all the feature-bloated mp3 players out there. The problem is which features to add: color screen, handwriting recognition (for data entry), camera (after all, if you already have a screen), cell phone, a web browser, etc.? Pretty soon you have a very expensive PDA that has lost much of the iPod's appeal and elegance.
As much as I love Apple (and Mac, and the iPod), I think that the future is in feature bloat, not elegant design (look what happened to Palm). And lots of people do feature bloat better than Apple (e.g. Microsoft, Dell, etc.). This doesn't make me happy, but there you are.
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I think this is probably inevtiable, but it is also the beginning of the end. Of course, Apple needs to compete with all the feature-bloated mp3 players out there. The problem is which features to add: color screen, handwriting recognition (for data entry), camera (after all, if you already have a screen), cell phone, a web browser, etc.? Pretty soon you have a very expensive PDA that has lost much of the iPod's appeal and elegance.
As much as I love Apple (and Mac, and the iPod), I think that the future is in feature bloat, not elegant design (look what happened to Palm). And lots of people do feature bloat better than Apple (e.g. Microsoft, Dell, etc.). This doesn't make me happy, but there you are.
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corywoolf said:
You can do this. It's called the Belkin Battery Pack. 4 AA batteries and this accessory. Bam! Extra 12-15 hours of battery life.
corywoolf said:when, my friends, when, will they release this masterpiece? i have a 40gb now and can trade it into compusa and get a new one for FREE! please someone, give me an idea, i have been waiting for months to trade in my 3g 40gb ipod!
thank you all
Ok, I tried to ignore this, but I just can't. Ok man, this is a RUMOR site.. say it with me.. RU-MOR. We don't even know 100% that this is true, let alone when it will happen. Very few Apple employees even know if this is true. Trust me, I was an iPod support rep, and they didn't tell me anything in advance. According to the RUMOR, it should be out within 30-60 days.
Sounds good to me
First, if this doesn't appeal to you that's fine. Don't buy it.
But, like other, this does appeal to me. Maybe not right now at $500.
I understand that the technology is problematic right now. But is it good enough? I don't know enough about some of the technical details like battery life and screen resolution. But I do see more and more people using camera cell phones, I even see video phones being advertised.
The point is not whether a 2" screen on an iPod makes the perfect picture viewing experience. Running pictures through Photoshop and viewing them on a 20" monitor is way better. But if I want to see / show pictures right here, right now is the iPod good enough?
If I am on vacation taking pictures and Belkining them into the iPod I would like to see them. And show them to other people, right there. I'll photoshop them and print 'em / web 'em later to get from good enough to great. Plug the pod into the back of grandma's TV to show her a slide show? That's cool, and I don't have to lug the laptop to do it.
Do I want to watch Shrek on my iPod? No. Would it be cool to watch a movie trailer while I'm at the theater trying to decide? Yeah. Or weather channel / CNN / sports headlines/highlight clips I downloaded this morning before going to work? Yeah maybe. Too old to stay up 'til 2am watching playoff games from the west coast, at least not every night.
I've got audiobooks on mine. Podcasting looks interesting. I use it to back up important files. I use it as a read only calendar / address book.
If all you want is music on your iPod, cool. But the more I use this little gizmo (a 15gb) the more I would like it to do. And the more I think it can do. Inevitably, the wolves will circle around Apple's iTunes/ITMS/iPod winner. Stevie and the troops need to keep innovating to keep ahead, and expanding the iPod to support digitizing more and more of my iLife seems like a smart move. Apple has a great track record of taking emerging technologies (laser printers, 3.5 inch disks, GUI, WiFI, MP3 players, etc) and making completely new products.
The Time magazine article a while back hinted at secret new features in the new iPod, other rumors have hinted at radio and wireless. Doesn't seem to me that expanding ITMS to handle other file formats would be too hard, so selling other media like video shouldn't be too hard. Interesting things will come out of Duke and other colleges experimenting with iPod/ITMS.
I think we will see interesting new versions of iPod emerging, and probably a stratifying of the product based on capabilities as much as physical and disk size.
My little, personal, wish list:
- Even half-assed video. Movie trailers, news/sports/weather clips, slide shows. I've watched enough little Quicktime movies on my laptop to be used to 'em. Hook it to the TV is even better.
- Wireless so I can use Airport Express from the couch. Or remote the TV!
- A plug-in camera gizmo so I can take the pictures with the iPod. If a cell phone can do it, why not the iPod?
- A way to enter contact / calendar info on the go. Wouldn't need the Palm Pilot anymore.
- Karaoke!!!! I've got the lyrics, I've got the song; scroll the text file while the music plays and you're there. OK, just kidding.
Whether this is a valid rumor, I have no idea. But I hope it is. If Apple is really serious about digital hub and iLife, adding this kind of technology to iPod / iTunes is necessary.
Nuff Ced, McGready
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First, if this doesn't appeal to you that's fine. Don't buy it.
But, like other, this does appeal to me. Maybe not right now at $500.
I understand that the technology is problematic right now. But is it good enough? I don't know enough about some of the technical details like battery life and screen resolution. But I do see more and more people using camera cell phones, I even see video phones being advertised.
The point is not whether a 2" screen on an iPod makes the perfect picture viewing experience. Running pictures through Photoshop and viewing them on a 20" monitor is way better. But if I want to see / show pictures right here, right now is the iPod good enough?
If I am on vacation taking pictures and Belkining them into the iPod I would like to see them. And show them to other people, right there. I'll photoshop them and print 'em / web 'em later to get from good enough to great. Plug the pod into the back of grandma's TV to show her a slide show? That's cool, and I don't have to lug the laptop to do it.
Do I want to watch Shrek on my iPod? No. Would it be cool to watch a movie trailer while I'm at the theater trying to decide? Yeah. Or weather channel / CNN / sports headlines/highlight clips I downloaded this morning before going to work? Yeah maybe. Too old to stay up 'til 2am watching playoff games from the west coast, at least not every night.
I've got audiobooks on mine. Podcasting looks interesting. I use it to back up important files. I use it as a read only calendar / address book.
If all you want is music on your iPod, cool. But the more I use this little gizmo (a 15gb) the more I would like it to do. And the more I think it can do. Inevitably, the wolves will circle around Apple's iTunes/ITMS/iPod winner. Stevie and the troops need to keep innovating to keep ahead, and expanding the iPod to support digitizing more and more of my iLife seems like a smart move. Apple has a great track record of taking emerging technologies (laser printers, 3.5 inch disks, GUI, WiFI, MP3 players, etc) and making completely new products.
The Time magazine article a while back hinted at secret new features in the new iPod, other rumors have hinted at radio and wireless. Doesn't seem to me that expanding ITMS to handle other file formats would be too hard, so selling other media like video shouldn't be too hard. Interesting things will come out of Duke and other colleges experimenting with iPod/ITMS.
I think we will see interesting new versions of iPod emerging, and probably a stratifying of the product based on capabilities as much as physical and disk size.
My little, personal, wish list:
- Even half-assed video. Movie trailers, news/sports/weather clips, slide shows. I've watched enough little Quicktime movies on my laptop to be used to 'em. Hook it to the TV is even better.
- Wireless so I can use Airport Express from the couch. Or remote the TV!
- A plug-in camera gizmo so I can take the pictures with the iPod. If a cell phone can do it, why not the iPod?
- A way to enter contact / calendar info on the go. Wouldn't need the Palm Pilot anymore.
- Karaoke!!!! I've got the lyrics, I've got the song; scroll the text file while the music plays and you're there. OK, just kidding.
Whether this is a valid rumor, I have no idea. But I hope it is. If Apple is really serious about digital hub and iLife, adding this kind of technology to iPod / iTunes is necessary.
Nuff Ced, McGready
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Ability to play movies will come sooner or later.. I've always been of that opinion, at least. Ok, so Steve talks about how "noone" likes to watch video on a small screen. BUT. Storing video on your iPod and watching it on a big, fat TV with big, fat sound; he's never said anything about that.
It will come, my friend. As all the competitors get it, Apple will have to aswell to stay in the market. I'm not saying they will have to do it in 1 year, or maybe even in 5 years.. What I'm saying is sooner is better than later. Apple likes to be pioneers. They still can be. Sort of..
(btw. I wonder what features Jobs was talking about, that might be in the iPods allready existing..?)
It will come, my friend. As all the competitors get it, Apple will have to aswell to stay in the market. I'm not saying they will have to do it in 1 year, or maybe even in 5 years.. What I'm saying is sooner is better than later. Apple likes to be pioneers. They still can be. Sort of..
(btw. I wonder what features Jobs was talking about, that might be in the iPods allready existing..?)
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Demon said:
Maybe they should raise the price and pay the workers a decent wage or bring the production back home?
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mainstreetmark said:
It's all in the resolution. Consider that your same sized wallet photo contains the equivalent of 300ppi+ compared to 72ppi tops in the lcd for an iPod. The sparkle in your kid's eye would simply be a white block taking up half the iris on a tiny, crappy lcd screen. There's really no comparison.
Video won't/shouldn't happen. Steaming video would have the drive's churning like crazy. Are these tiny drives even fast enough to stream full-screen video with sound?
Pictures on a TV would be nice. Especially if there was an easy/quick way to connect...
This won't just be an added feature. Apple almost always features a "breakthrough" of some sorts when they broaden a market... OLEDs may be it. AV out sounds close enough. Wireless?
Wait for the spin...
Sir_Giggles said:
Are you one of the same people who complained that cell phones were just for phoning people? Damn all that text messaging, video screens, games, built-in digital cameras and PDA-like abilities, they're just going to kill the cell phone!
QCassidy352 said:
Its not ideal, but many people still do it. As I was traveling through Eastern Europe I ran into many, many people who wanted to see my photos from the previous places I had been, so I would show them on my cameras LCD, and it worked just fine this would be the case with this iPod as well. But, above all else, as I stated in my other post, the big feature is video out, as viewing the pictures on a monitor is much more advantageous than a 2 screen.
QCassidy352 said:
Yah, because cameras in cell phones aren't useful at all and haven't
caught on...
QCassidy352 said:What do you mean? The point of the color screen is so you can view photos... what else do you want?
Frankly, I'm not sure about this one... who wants to carry all of their digital pictures with them everywhere?
Oh yeah, forgot about that
I wouldnt want to carry my digital photos in an iPod -- what if you lose it?
.narco
battery life battery life battery life
sounds promising but i thing i wont get a new ipod until mine is truly busted up
sounds promising but i thing i wont get a new ipod until mine is truly busted up
Sir_Giggles said:
Yah, but an iBook is not as portable as iPod. You won't always have an iBook with you when people ask to see your photos, and its easier if you have iPod - plus, I'd hate to see the size of the belt clip you'd need for your iBook. Or are you planning on just putting it in your pocket?
Hmm, although it might be cool to see iPod ads with the dancing silhouettes, dancing with an iBook - that could get really dangerous.
narco said:
Well, it depends. If you're traveling for a long time and have simply transferred your digital photos onto your iPod to free up your camera's memory card, then your risk of losing your iPod is the same as your camera, so you're no better off. Otherwise, if you mean storing your photos in general on the iPod, no, I wouldn't store the only copies of my photos on an iPod, nor would I store the only copy of any important data of mine in one location. In the case of photos, I would maybe have a copy of some on my iPod, and my main collection on my Mac, via iPhoto, then backed up on disc.
PLEASE let this be true. this is the only reason i haven't replaced my 2G 20GB. it's been full for a WHILE. i haven't dumped any new music to it in months, but i've been holding off for a bump in features for a new iPod. the 4G is great, but i couldn't justify an upgrade since mine is still working.
macguymike said:
Yes, noticeable, but is it a big deal in the grand scheme of things? I have a 20 GB iPod and I don't find my buddy's 40 GB iPod to be mammoth, cumbersome and weighing me down when I use it...
Digipimp said:
A $500 photo player?!? Um, this thing is an iPod - it wouldn't be just a photo player, it also is somewhat well known for playing music. Maybe you've heard of it before, the iPod, iTunes? Or have you been living in a cave, on Mars, with your eyes shut, and your fingers in your ears the past few years?