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Stewie said:
Exactly. I can't imagine going somewhere whipping out my iPod and cable to plug into someone's TV to show pictures of my vaction. How annoying would that be. "Hey did I show you the 25,000 pictures I took when I went to last weeks 'insert local annoying event of your choice'

I doubt I would get invited back if I tried that.

It really depends on the situation though. I just returned from backpacking through Eastern Europe, and everyone, from my friends, family and co-workers are all harassing me on when they'll be able to see my photos. Yes, I'll have the digital photos printed off soon, and yes, I'll have them up on a website soon, but it would still be nice to go over to a friend's place and give him or her a slideshow of what I saw and did. And an iPod would be a lot nicer to carry around than an PowerBook for those purposes.

But if you personally can't imagine doing that, then fine - maybe it's just that you just take boring photos. :p ;)
 
~Shard~ said:
Are you one of the same people who complained that cell phones were just for phoning people? Damn all that text messaging, video screens, games, built-in digital cameras and PDA-like abilities, they're just going to kill the cell phone! :rolleyes: ;)

They DID kill the cell phone. These technologies designed for 13 year old girls are getting out of hand. If you want a digital camera, get a digital camera. If you want to play games, get a GBA. All of these technologies are almost useless on phones anyway. Most camera phones take really horrible quality photos, and the games are half impossible to play because you're using a keypad. It's all BS for the mindless masses. And please, quit with the ringtones! A phone should sound like a phone, not an orchestra or the latest Hilary Duff single.
 
Video out on a powered Dock

I'm going to guess the video out will be on a new dock. The dock will have an S-Video or component or composite video, an optical audio out, and a power connection, something like that, and you sit by and attach it to your stereo and/or TV.

I'm also going to guess that the latest 4G iPods will ALSO get the very same abilities, will plug into the same dock, it's just that they will show the pictures only in monochrome. That's the secret feature they've been hinting at.
 
My digital camera (Kodak DX 6840) has a bigger screen (2.2")... although it doesn't play MP3s :D

I'm still waiting for a tablet that I can use as an MP3 player... something like this.

The iPods must be due for an update very soon though, especially the minis - it's been a while.
 
mactarkus said:
While I actually enjoyed Shrek and for once it didn't fall on the heals of a similar Pixar movie looking to capitalize on its popularity (e.g. Pixar's Bug's Life then DW's Antz and Pixar's Nemo then DW's Shark Tale), I doubt very seriously that Steve would ever show Shrek on the screen of a video capable iPod.

I heard Shrek was made in response to DW hearing that Pixar was working on a monster movie. Somehow they managed to get their's (Shrek) released sooner (18 May 2001) than Pixar's (Monsters, Inc. - 2 Nov 2001)
 
If your taking all these photos that everyone wants to see, its likely you will have your digital camera with an LCD to view the images on anyway.

And about the people arguing about mobile phones - I have a 3G phone with more features you can shake a stick at, but they are all crap. The camera is too poor to use really, the mp3 player is rubbish and it takes ages to get tracks onto it, the GPS is not very accurate, the reception is so bad calls cut out every 10 mins and not forgetting the battery life is too poor to use it for more than 2 days anyway. The phone is bigger and heavier than the moon, and I regret ever buying it.

Thats why I also carry around a nice titanium 2001 vintage Nokia with a grey screen that has a battery life of a week and crystal clear calls. Colour is fun, but not worth the price in the war on battery life.
 
nagromme said:
Re backlight power: I've heard of color LCD screens that can use front-light (aka room/sunlight), making them much like the current B&W iPod screens. Backlighting can be turned on briefly or as needed, but is not necessary like with a laptop. Anyone know of devices with color that work that way?

I think most color screen cell phones have this setup. At least my Nokia does.
 
60GB Cool but it's been on the market for a while (what about 80?)
Photos? Cool because not that many people have 60GB of music unless they rip the songs at very high quality. Useful? not really unless you show your friends pictures all the time.
 
sirjimithy said:
They DID kill the cell phone. These technologies designed for 13 year old girls are getting out of hand. If you want a digital camera, get a digital camera. If you want to play games, get a GBA. All of these technologies are almost useless on phones anyway. Most camera phones take really horrible quality photos, and the games are half impossible to play because you're using a keypad. It's all BS for the mindless masses. And please, quit with the ringtones! A phone should sound like a phone, not an orchestra or the latest Hilary Duff single.

Amen brother. It'd be nice to have a cell phone that was actually good at making a phone calls. Makes me of the eDork episode of Aqua Teen... :D
 
Phone Features

For what it's worth, I was given some information about an iPod that is being developed that includes a cell phone. Evidently it's early in the development process and no planned release date. When listening to music, if the phone rings, the music is muted and the ring tone is heard. Guess it is supposed to work similar to the OnStar system in vehicles. A feature supposedly being explored was that when put on hold you would listen to your own music not the normal "on hold" elevator music. Supposedly the earliest the phone feature/option could be released would be Q3 2005. It might be nice to have less devices to carry around but how much stuff can you cram into an iPod before it becomes an overly complicated beast?
 
BJNY said:
For viewing photos, I have my eye on Epson's recently announced P-2000 which also offers movie & music playback, connects to a TV, and reads compact flash & SD cards.

http://www.i-love-epson.co.jp/products/photofine/p2000/p20001.htm

God! That thing looks nice, is it also a camera? I haven't got the whole idea of the features, but if it's also a camera... I will switch to epson in a second... after I buy one of those *things*
 
vikolaf said:
60GB Cool but it's been on the market for a while (what about 80?)
Photos? Cool because not that many people have 60GB of music unless they rip the songs at very high quality. Useful? not really unless you show your friends pictures all the time.

It would be plenty useful if the iPod would be able to allow you to download photos from any digital camera via a special USB cable. Can you imagine how many professional photographers would kill to have a portable 60 GB hard drive - no more swapping expensive little memory cards. Heck, I have a 256 MB card on my 5MP camera, and that fills up pretty fast on road trips. An iPhoto-capable iPod would be a godsend.

Then once those photos are downloaded, the next time you hook up your iPod to your Mac, voila, iPhoto autosyncs with it.

No wonder Apple named it "iPod" and not "iMusic."

iTunes = autosyncing for your iPod's music
iPhoto = autosyncing for your iPod's photos

At least, that's the hope!
 
i(Insert what it does here)

I don't think any of you will be happy until you have a portable Mac. Until that time happens, (if it happens) can we leave the iPod alone? Doesn't anyone feel nostalgic when they look at an iPod screen and think on the look of the original versions of the Macintosh. Keep the monochrome screen for the music playing portable FireWire HD known as the iPod. I don't want colour while driving at night. I want music. Do I need 60 GB? No. Do other people sure, if the truly have enough music to fill it. Optional HD size might be nice. But until there is a portable fully functional, wireless G6 Macintosh with a HID and a voice activated interface, sporting a 3.5 TeraByte HD... I'm not interested. Call that i(Something or other). Don't call it an iPod.
 
JLS said:
If your taking all these photos that everyone wants to see, its likely you will have your digital camera with an LCD to view the images on anyway.

Sure, I use my digital cam that way--it even had TV out. But your digital cam can only hold a few photos--especially if you leave room to TAKE pictures--not your whole library.
 
nagromme said:
Sure, I use my digital cam that way--it even had TV out. But your digital cam can only hold a few photos--especially if you leave room to TAKE pictures--not your whole library.


Well might I just point out that memory cards are really cheap, I have a 256mb one in my Nikon 5700, and on 'normal' quality I can store over 200 photos. I can't see myself wanting to show people more than that at once, and showing people old photos (i.e. your archives) can't seem that exciting either.
 
Is it my imagination or is this new imgPod going to be introduced for Mac users and then with version 2 or 3 it will be introduced with Windows users along with iPhoto. Same thing they did with the original iPod, first test it on the mac users and then bring it to windows users along with the software.

Anyone also piece that the 4 gig flash cards might be for this as a buffer system so this product will be responsive and drain less power which sorting information for music and images. I mean 4 gigs is pretty decent to load over a 100 images and songs. Thus the thickness. The colour lcd screen I wonder what they are going to do about the whole lawsuit with Honeywell, only time will tell.

Would this be a great products it might be it sure is targeted towards that ONE person in every family like GarageBand is targeted towards to as well, in America. So it would not concern me as to why Apple knows this is a small neglected market and is providing for them, since once they have they trust these people will be long standing Apple customers since there were listening when no one else was.

I only hope that Apple gives you the option to turn the Colour screen to Black and White since it will help to push the battery a little longer.

I think Apple is set its eye on the 8-14 hour battery life for now, there are not in the market as of now to offer 60 hours of playback.

Besides looking at the PSP which only get about 60-900 mins, this new iPod looks great compared to it, and if only it plays music, views photos, or able to connect to present PRESENTATIONS.

It's a fine welcome to the Pod family. :D


Update does it seem that Apple is moving towards the digital camera area next, they have already done it once before. I would not be surprised if they do it again, seems they are testing the image portable sector in the Pod form factor. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST PEOPLE. :)
 
What if this iPod can show the album artwork while listening to a song?

That'd be damn cool... but I think ThinkSecret might have mentioned it. :(
 
Old list of benefits of a color iPod screen

I put together this list back around the time the first rumors of a color iPod screen were floating around:

- Album covers

- Music videos

- Visualizations

- Color solitaire! (I hate having to remember which suits are which colors)

- Old-school video games (Asteroid, Space Invaders, etc.)

- Cartoons (regular video might not look so great on a small screen but cartoons, like The Simpsons or South Park, might be ok)

- Photo browsing
 
Fourbin said:
Wouldn't this be a 5th Generation iPod? It's extremely different than the 4th...


It more like the beginning of a new Pod family, some could call it a spin-off, not really a 5th Gen. Its a 4th Gen extended. Partially due to not having the hardware parts available in time for introduction, not Apples fault.
 
m a y a said:
Update does it seem that Apple is moving towards the digital camera area next, they have already done it once before. I would not be surprised if they do it again, seems they are testing the image portable sector in the Pod form factor. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST PEOPLE. :)

Apple does and not will not make cameras anymore for the same reason they don't make printers anymore...Because they know other companies simply do it better. They have and will leave those mediums to Epson, Canon, HP, etc.
 
I'm pretty excited about this rumor and I hope it is true. I have a 2nd gen iPod and I also do digital photography.

I do have one question about it: Will I still have to buy a separate device to upload CF (or other) cards from the camera? I would expect the answer is "yes" so that you can buy whatever media adapter your situation requires, but it would be yet another gadget I would have to lug around.

(Sorry if this question was asked already. Didn't feel like looking through 250-300 posts :))
 
Lepton said:
I'm going to guess the video out will be on a new dock. The dock will have an S-Video or component or composite video, an optical audio out, and a power connection, something like that, and you sit by and attach it to your stereo and/or TV.

For the 4G I don't see this happening. It will just branded as their first iPod with photo capability. But it's probably not far from the truth for a 5G device (mid next year). Having h.264 built in, and the little thing can become suddenly a PVR. Little screen for in the subway, large screen for at home. hmmm..... just a thought.
 
sirjimithy said:
They DID kill the cell phone. These technologies designed for 13 year old girls are getting out of hand. If you want a digital camera, get a digital camera. If you want to play games, get a GBA. All of these technologies are almost useless on phones anyway. Most camera phones take really horrible quality photos, and the games are half impossible to play because you're using a keypad. It's all BS for the mindless masses. And please, quit with the ringtones! A phone should sound like a phone, not an orchestra or the latest Hilary Duff single.


Actually, this is true, I should have explained my point better. All these new cell phone features for the most part are crap and/or useless, don’t work right, are a novelty, etc., so in this context, yes, they have killed the cell phone. But I was referring to things in terms of sales and popularity. Even though all of these bells and whistles have been added, cell phones are just as popular if not moreso, and these additional features, whether they’re crap or not, have not killed cell phones in terms of sales, etc.

Now you might say this could e the case with this photo iPod – Apple is introducing additional functionality that might not work the best, etc. Well, Apple engineers seem to focus countless amounts of time and effort in getting things right, so I don’t think this will be an issue, (if they’re going to do it, they’re going to do it right), and I definitely don’t think new functionality like this will diminish iPod sales and popularity. It’s just the next logical progression.

Plus, no one ever said the iPod was strictly an MP3 player – who says it has to be only that, and can never be anything else? :cool:
 
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