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iPod 6th Gen iPods to run OS X?
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I have a 60Gb iPod photo and I can't get all my music onto it! I hope that Apple keep the next iPod just that, an iPod. I don't think there is any need for wi-fi, but bluetooth is a possibility for wireless headphones (and possibly wireless sync'ing). Otherwise I would like to see larger capacities, widescreen and coverflow. That's it, anything else would make it too complicated to use.
I'd truly love to see apple build an iPod with Wi-Fi done properly - complete with wireless syncing, access to the iTunes Store from the iPod itself and they same music sharing as iTunes has now between PCs.
Think back to when the info on the Zune *shudder* started trickling in and the hype that started to build up around the Wi-Fi before it became obvious how crippled the device actually was. THAT is what I feel is the natural evolution of the device - moving away from requiring as much physical contact with a Mac / PC and becoming a device of its own.
Think back to when the info on the Zune *shudder* started trickling in and the hype that started to build up around the Wi-Fi before it became obvious how crippled the device actually was. THAT is what I feel is the natural evolution of the device - moving away from requiring as much physical contact with a Mac / PC and becoming a device of its own.
defintely going to be the widescreen, because we all know how much apple inc is loving the coverflow these days. one thing i would really like to see though is full hdmi out, so the ipod could potentially hook into a widescreen tv and look and sound sharp. seems possible through a camera-connector like device that plugs into the ipod dock, and changes the female input to hdmi.
who knows though, i'm sure that they've alre3ady thought of something far more brilliant than that.
who knows though, i'm sure that they've alre3ady thought of something far more brilliant than that.
Why would they? Because they have more use from a MacBook than just listening to music and browsing the web. The iPod is absolutely NO replacement for the MacBook, or any laptop for that matter.
There are most likely more WiFi iMac users than hard-wired users. That doesn't mean that people wouldn't use the wireless function in their iPod. They would use it because it is portable, they could check their email/news/etc. quickly by pulling their iPod out of their pocket instead of having to go up to their iMac.
That's like saying, "Would you really want to surf the internet on a 3.5" screen on the iPhone?" People do use it. They also surf on screens much smaller than that like a regular screen on cell phones.
That was just a feature from the Palm that some may be interested in. Just never mind that one.
I honestly doubt that it will get a radio. If it does, it will get FM only because AM, I believe, consumes more power.
Bluetooth 1.2 can carry about 721 kbit/s and Bluetooth 2.0 is 2.0mbits/sec. The Bluetooth, in my mind, would only be for wireless headphones and tethering. Syncing would be done with a USB cable.
Why have one? Mmm... Maybe for those who don't want to switch to AT&T or can't get AT&T but want the features of the iPhone? Is that not a good enough reason?
How would it hurt the iPhone sales? If people want an all-in-one device, they would get the iPhone. If they want to have a Verizon phone but an iPhone-like device, then they'd get the iPod.
Video Output seems to be a missing feature no one else has noticed. Doesn't anyone besides me use their Video iPod To Play On their HDTVs? It's a mobile AppleTV.
haha i use it for when i go camping, watch a few movies on the small tv. play some nice loud rock metal for all the old people holidaying!!!! mwahahahahaha
hhmmm this is bluetoosh 2.0EDR+??? i thout that was only 1mbps.
EDIT: oh wait, i wikied it and its 2.1mbps. i didnt kno that....thats pretty crazy
if anything, the HIGH end model of the iPod will include features like everyone is suggesting: iPhone - at&t = 6G iPod.
however, there will definitely still be a regular iPod. i know for one... I'd love to have an iPhone like device that didn't need at&t service, but i know about 10000 people who do not need those features. they want a music player that is SOOO easy to use, you can do with with your eyes clsoed, or from in your pocket, or THRU your pocket, or in your purse, etc. etc. Apple will not abandon the primary functionality that made the iPod the device that it is.
A crazy iPod like we're suggesting doesn't really make sense. Apple wants the iPhone to be a success, but if you could buy an ipod with all the features of an iphone, then what was the point of iphone? perhaps we will see an iphone-less ipod when the contract with at&t runs up so any sim card will work. then it will just be a phone capable ipod. until then, expect a 5.5G low end, and a touchscreen-video-coverflow high end.
however, there will definitely still be a regular iPod. i know for one... I'd love to have an iPhone like device that didn't need at&t service, but i know about 10000 people who do not need those features. they want a music player that is SOOO easy to use, you can do with with your eyes clsoed, or from in your pocket, or THRU your pocket, or in your purse, etc. etc. Apple will not abandon the primary functionality that made the iPod the device that it is.
A crazy iPod like we're suggesting doesn't really make sense. Apple wants the iPhone to be a success, but if you could buy an ipod with all the features of an iphone, then what was the point of iphone? perhaps we will see an iphone-less ipod when the contract with at&t runs up so any sim card will work. then it will just be a phone capable ipod. until then, expect a 5.5G low end, and a touchscreen-video-coverflow high end.
So, are you saying that Apple should basically keep the old 5G iPod as well an not update it? What could they do to the current 5G design? Or are you saying that the low-end iPod be in a rut?
So, if I'm getting this right, you are saying that the iPod will not be updated until 5 years from now?
Why won't people think about it? The 6th Gen High-End iPod would be for those who do not want to go the AT&T route. The iPhone is for those who want an all-in-one convergence device.
It is obvious that eventually everything will be smart. There will be a computer in my shower faucet which knows me and my mood.
And convergence between computers and music players is already coming, at least for the privileged people with the right phone service and plenty of money.
But how many songs would I give up to have OS-X on my iPod?
Will it be on FAT-32, or will there be another way to talk with Windows machines (do Linux users have iTunes?)
I expect that the way we are going is to *always* have our main computer accessible, no matter where we are.
And convergence between computers and music players is already coming, at least for the privileged people with the right phone service and plenty of money.
But how many songs would I give up to have OS-X on my iPod?
Will it be on FAT-32, or will there be another way to talk with Windows machines (do Linux users have iTunes?)
I expect that the way we are going is to *always* have our main computer accessible, no matter where we are.
I don't know--I think Apple has conditioned consumers to think of "iPod" as synonymous with "music player."
A touch screen would be necessitated by the wide-aspect screen taking up the entire face of the unit, but I think your "if it has a touch screen, it might as well be a web browser" logic is a little flawed.
I certainly wouldn't pay extra for a browser on my music player when I'm never in a hotspot without my laptop, anyway. Multiple versions of a product (one with safari/wifi/bluetooth, one without) seems to contradict Apple's philosophy.
A touch screen would be necessitated by the wide-aspect screen taking up the entire face of the unit, but I think your "if it has a touch screen, it might as well be a web browser" logic is a little flawed.
I certainly wouldn't pay extra for a browser on my music player when I'm never in a hotspot without my laptop, anyway. Multiple versions of a product (one with safari/wifi/bluetooth, one without) seems to contradict Apple's philosophy.
A touch screen would allow a bigger screen for videos - but could we change songs with the iPod in our pockets?
I think traditional iPods should still have tactile controls.
(How do we make this forum's spell checker know that "iPod" is spelled correctly?
I think traditional iPods should still have tactile controls.
(How do we make this forum's spell checker know that "iPod" is spelled correctly?
Agreed. The two main things I want to see added to the iPod are AM/FM Radio, and a multi-touch screen. Of course with the screen comes a few other UI features similar to the iPhone, but nothing special.
If they do update with a touch screen iPod, I'm sure they'll want to have a very stern line dividing the iPhone from the iPod.
This is a very interstingly split community.Here's my take from a consumer standpoint, not technology:
First of all, I had a 2g ipod that died right at about the time the 4g came out.I completely skipped over the 3g because I didn't think it offered enough to warrant me to spend another 400$ on a player. When it died I took another look at Apple. What do you have for me now? An Ipod Photo? Oh, it's in color? That's it?...no thanks, I'll pass. I did NOT buy the 4g. Now the 5g comes out, ohhh it's in black, oh it's a bigger screen, oh it's slimmer, oh it plays video, but do I need video? No. So what, THAT'S THE ONE I WANT. So I boought it.
Now back to the present. "God that Iphone looks slick" but I HATE AT& T and will not move over to them for any reason. Plus as much as I hate to say it, my moto q is adequate and does most of what the iphone does, just not a pretty. Oh well, I still have my Macbook Pro. I'll just wait for the new iphone to come out with most of these features minus the cell phone.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I WON'T GET THESE FEATURES...BECAUSE OF THE IPHONE? Screw this, I will just stay with my 5G. I know what's out there, so why would I pay full price for a crippled product?
Now you have lost an Iphone sell and an Ipod sell? How does that affect the Apple bottom line?
It's got to have bluetooth because that's the way stereo headsets are going. wireless. It's the next logical step, plus it would be great not to have to plug in the ipod just to sync it.
It's got to be fullscreen...you can't go back now.
It DOES NOT need to have wireless, unless the ITUNES store begins to allow you to purchase music OTA. again, another logical step in their evolution
I needs to be as slim as the 5g ipod, but not as slim as the iphone, but to save costs they will probably you the same casing so we will probably see a iphone like ipod.
Calendar, contacts, and safari? Well it already does that less safari, if there is wireless, you can guarantee safari.
I also own a PSP and several other toys, I have used my wifi to access the web, get updates for my PSP and download new games. It's a neccesity for updates. DO I think, "Now I don't have to use my macbook ever again"? HELL NO. I need the screen real estate when I am really diggin in deep. Something a small device simply can't do. and the psp has a huge screen.
There are people who won't want all these features...turn em off, but there are others who say, no matter what, if you want my money, the features have to be there. I don't care if I use them or not.
First of all, I had a 2g ipod that died right at about the time the 4g came out.I completely skipped over the 3g because I didn't think it offered enough to warrant me to spend another 400$ on a player. When it died I took another look at Apple. What do you have for me now? An Ipod Photo? Oh, it's in color? That's it?...no thanks, I'll pass. I did NOT buy the 4g. Now the 5g comes out, ohhh it's in black, oh it's a bigger screen, oh it's slimmer, oh it plays video, but do I need video? No. So what, THAT'S THE ONE I WANT. So I boought it.
Now back to the present. "God that Iphone looks slick" but I HATE AT& T and will not move over to them for any reason. Plus as much as I hate to say it, my moto q is adequate and does most of what the iphone does, just not a pretty. Oh well, I still have my Macbook Pro. I'll just wait for the new iphone to come out with most of these features minus the cell phone.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I WON'T GET THESE FEATURES...BECAUSE OF THE IPHONE? Screw this, I will just stay with my 5G. I know what's out there, so why would I pay full price for a crippled product?
Now you have lost an Iphone sell and an Ipod sell? How does that affect the Apple bottom line?
It's got to have bluetooth because that's the way stereo headsets are going. wireless. It's the next logical step, plus it would be great not to have to plug in the ipod just to sync it.
It's got to be fullscreen...you can't go back now.
It DOES NOT need to have wireless, unless the ITUNES store begins to allow you to purchase music OTA. again, another logical step in their evolution
I needs to be as slim as the 5g ipod, but not as slim as the iphone, but to save costs they will probably you the same casing so we will probably see a iphone like ipod.
Calendar, contacts, and safari? Well it already does that less safari, if there is wireless, you can guarantee safari.
I also own a PSP and several other toys, I have used my wifi to access the web, get updates for my PSP and download new games. It's a neccesity for updates. DO I think, "Now I don't have to use my macbook ever again"? HELL NO. I need the screen real estate when I am really diggin in deep. Something a small device simply can't do. and the psp has a huge screen.
There are people who won't want all these features...turn em off, but there are others who say, no matter what, if you want my money, the features have to be there. I don't care if I use them or not.
that would be really cool, a mobile OS X. The 6G ipod could basically be a cheaper, larger capacity iphone without the phone capability.
I just don't think apple will make the ipod into a music playing video watching internet tablet. It is suppose to be for your music, videos and pictures not a device where you can check your email and do other things on the internet. I do think there will be a touch screen so when you are searching for a song it will be easier to type the name of the artist or song. I do think there is a possibility for blue tooth though.I also think if they use os x for the ipod it will look completely different then the iphone.
i agree pete. why would they want to make the iphone more like the ipod when its selling fine by itself?? besides, making the ipod have wifi and touch screen and all that might actually take iphone sales away from apple. and we all wouldnt want that, its a major contradiction
Which is not true since it has no Video Output Capability. It can't even RECORD Video which almost all other camera phones can.Agreed. Also Must have Video Out Capability.Video Output seems to be a missing feature no one else has noticed. Doesn't anyone besides me use their Video iPod To Play On their HDTVs? It's a mobile AppleTV.
If it's running OS X then surely then they could also easily add Front Row/whatever-the-AppleTVs-are-running-now. That would be interesting because the AppleTV is supposedly just a "hobby" so they might have less of a problem with taking sales from there if it makes a more awesome iPod. Include a little infrared receiver on the front (or sell a well priced separate dock with AV out, charging, IR receiver and Apple Remote) and a 100G iPod/AppleTV could be a fantastic piece of tech.
Adding Bluetooth only makes sense if you use it for something like Mail or Safari, but that would cannabilise iPhone and Steve doesn't sound like he's ready to even think about that yet.
Actually it's suppose to be for your music. period. no photo, no video, no games. SJ said it himself that people wouldn't watch the small screens and then he comes out with a video ipod the next generation. He is going to make products that the market (consumers) want. If by seeing the iphone everyone screams, WE WANT THAT, then I guarantee that alot of it will be included. You'll just have to turn your added functions, "off"/