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The current iPad will immediately feel ancient if the 7" iPad (along with the much smaller iPod Touch and iPhone) comes with so much more features than it is.

Too bad for the sucker who jump on the 1st gen iPad so soon. Rule of thumb: all Apple's 1st gen products get obsolete very quickly. Wait for the 2nd gen as it always last much longer in comparison in terms of technological relevance.
 
That is the iPad I need, hopefully it will come with 512MB and Retina Display.

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I'll buy this one in an instant. It'll surely have the retina display ... and hopefully - front and back facing camera and more power than it's larger pioneer.

Imagining the spot to run Navigon app right above my radio in the car. ;p :apple:
 
I hold this thing in one hand all the time. I am now actually. I could see how some people may have a problem with it.

I will only be angry if there is only a 7" iPad in the future, which I don't see happening. Or if the 7 comes out with new features before Spring '11.
 
A 7-inch iPad built like a Iphone 4 w/ all the bells and whistles
is soOO SOLD !!! It's not FUNNY. :cool:

Thank You Steve! Don't forget this product is already finished! woot!
NOVEMBER can't come soon enough! Yes, November! GET READY!! :D
 
So if the smaller iPad would resemble the iPhone 4... It would have a glass back and would be more rectangular, with a thick bezel at the top and bottom, and thin on the sides. Wouldn't that look extremely weird?

Nope, it will look exactly. exactly to a tee. What I'm looking for!
Cutting the side bezels off will make it much more convenient to hold in one hand and have the iPhone thickness to hold a 5megapixel camera.
This form factor is going to sell a ton ! An absolute motza !
This thing is going to have a really great resolution for reading. I am so excited !

Thanks STEVE !
 
The iPad already has so much market fragmentation: 3 memory sizes and 3G or WiFi-only. That's 6 different SKUs. Now they're going to add at least 2-3 more with variants for a 7" iPad and different memory configurations? If anything, Apple needs to consolidate a little bit.
--DotComCTO

I'm sure they will eventually stop selling 'wifi only' models which will bring it down to 3 models from the 6.
 
Lastly, I expect the price to be about the same as the 10" ($499.95). It might be as low as $399.95, but I doubt it. Apple can justify the price since it will have a better quality display (Retina, OLED or AMOLED), at least one camera (probably front for Facetime), 512 RAM, gyroscope, and etc.

That would be a bad sign since all of those updates 512 RAM , two cameras (facetime seems to require two ) , gyroscope , etc. would be logical updates for the next iPad. if those "justify" a $100 increase in price then the iPad would increase $100 on next round.

The $399.95 price could work. That is a 64GB Touch. The $399.95 iPad mini would likely only have 16GB (and perhaps as little as 8GB ) of storage.
The customer trade-off is whether they need storage or whether they want the screen space.

However, it violates Apple's "no overlapping price" rule. Overlapping on the high end though indicates that iPad would probably later move up. Whereas overlapping on the low edge , on $399, probably means the Touch would later move down. The touch should move down at some point. It is just a substantially smaller device and screen using many of the same parts.
The lower level ipods are in the way of its dropping in price. They too though a year from now could slide down a bit.


It almost makes me think Apple deliberately crippled the 10" from the start anticipating the 7" release.

Don't think it was crippled. Much more likely they wanted to limit the complexity so that had something that worked well when shipped it. Notice iPad had no Antennagate drama to go through as it ramped up. So they kept version 1 as simple as possible.

With version 2 they can start incrementally evolving the iPad. They will have a much better idea now if how many components need and that the core elements of the iPad work. If there is a glitch in adding one of those extras then the iPad already has tons of momentum. That would be a minor speed bump. If the iPad had been hit with an Antennagate sizesd dust up as it came out of the gate it would have taken a relatively much bigger hit in momentum. In year 2, iPad could take a hit and not really slow down much. (just like iPhone has ) .


I doubt iPad gets a "Retina display" though. 4" is one thing and was significant leap in size of displays with that density. Almost doubling to 7-10" in less than a year is very unlikely. It is not that easy.

Also unlikely will be OLED or AMOLED since Jobs just got through trashing those. LOL.
 
That would be a bad sign since all of those updates 512 RAM , two cameras (facetime seems to require two ) , gyroscope , etc. would be logical updates for the next iPad. if those "justify" a $100 increase in price then the iPad would increase $100 on next round.

The $399.95 price could work. That is a 64GB Touch. The $399.95 iPad mini would likely only have 16GB (and perhaps as little as 8GB ) of storage.
The customer trade-off is whether they need storage or whether they want the screen space.

However, it violates Apple's "no overlapping price" rule. Overlapping on the high end though indicates that iPad would probably later move up. Whereas overlapping on the low edge , on $399, probably means the Touch would later move down. The touch should move down at some point. It is just a substantially smaller device and screen using many of the same parts.
The lower level ipods are in the way of its dropping in price. They too though a year from now could slide down a bit.




Don't think it was crippled. Much more likely they wanted to limit the complexity so that had something that worked well when shipped it. Notice iPad had no Antennagate drama to go through as it ramped up. So they kept version 1 as simple as possible.

With version 2 they can start incrementally evolving the iPad. They will have a much better idea now if how many components need and that the core elements of the iPad work. If there is a glitch in adding one of those extras then the iPad already has tons of momentum. That would be a minor speed bump. If the iPad had been hit with an Antennagate sizesd dust up as it came out of the gate it would have taken a relatively much bigger hit in momentum. In year 2, iPad could take a hit and not really slow down much. (just like iPhone has ) .


I doubt iPad gets a "Retina display" though. 4" is one thing and was significant leap in size of displays with that density. Almost doubling to 7-10" in less than a year is very unlikely. It is not that easy.

Also unlikely will be OLED or AMOLED since Jobs just got through trashing those. LOL.

Nice writeup, Thanks!
If MacRumors needs a writer i vote you :D
 
Nice writeup, Thanks!
If MacRumors needs a writer i vote you :D

Just my thinking

iphone 4" is too small for me, ipad as a phone is too big, I don't want to use my ipad as a phone at all, its nice toy and I like to keep it like that 7" iphone will do it for me.
 
Kindle Killer.

Nah, I could not read an entire novel on an iPad, the screen starts to hurt my eyes after a while. While I have a Nook instead of a Kindle, I'd imagine they're similar in that they use e-ink so there's not so much strain.

It might hurt Kindle/other ebook readers sales, but there will always be a market for the novel readers such as myself that don't like to carry around big books.
 
The current iPad will immediately feel ancient if the 7" iPad (along with the much smaller iPod Touch and iPhone) comes with so much more features than it is.

Too bad for the sucker who jump on the 1st gen iPad so soon. Rule of thumb: all Apple's 1st gen products get obsolete very quickly. Wait for the 2nd gen as it always last much longer in comparison in terms of technological relevance.

Guss what: lots of iPad users, who are currently enjoying their 1st gen version, will buy the 2nd gen as well. :D
 
BIGGER!!! I want a 12-13". Only way I can justify it. Significantly bigger than my iPhone and I could eliminate my Macbook. Why make it smaller, closer to the iPhone, I don't get it:confused:

I'm with you. I'm holding off buying an iPad until 2.0 version ships (with camera, more RAM) but I'd much rather buy a 13" one than a 7" one. I mean, I see there is some market for it, but might as well get a iPhone/touch, there is probably a bigger market for a bigger, lighter 13".
 
Absurd

The current iPad will immediately feel ancient if the 7" iPad (along with the much smaller iPod Touch and iPhone) comes with so much more features than it is.

Too bad for the sucker who jump on the 1st gen iPad so soon. Rule of thumb: all Apple's 1st gen products get obsolete very quickly. Wait for the 2nd gen as it always last much longer in comparison in terms of technological relevance.

That's absurd. I have had almost 6 months of enjoyment with the current iPad. Why should I care if an improved version comes out in the Spring? I knew that going in......it would be strange if the iPad didn't get better. I can still enjoy mine for another year after gen 2 release, and then buy gen 3. Or, give my gen 1 to a family member and buy gen 2 if it is compelling.
 
what about the apps? its stupid that all the apps i have for my ipod touch i have to re purchase for the ipad for the screen size, now the 7" ipad more apps? you gotta be a rich person to own and have apple products. unless you jailbreak it and get it for free i guess which im not willing to do.
 
what about the apps? its stupid that all the apps i have for my ipod touch i have to re purchase for the ipad for the screen size, now the 7" ipad more apps? you gotta be a rich person to own and have apple products. unless you jailbreak it and get it for free i guess which im not willing to do.

Don't know if there will be a 7 inch iPad, but I would be sure that it will have the same number of pixels as the 10 inch, in a smaller space. Not good if you're over forty, but fine for the kids.

But what I don't understand about your attitude: Why would you have to re-purchase any apps when Apple releases a 7 inch iPad? The same old apps will run completely unchanged on your 10 inch iPad, and the 7 inch iPad costs exactly zero dollars if you don't buy it, but keep your old iPad.
 
Don't know if there will be a 7 inch iPad, but I would be sure that it will have the same number of pixels as the 10 inch, in a smaller space. Not good if you're over forty, but fine for the kids.

But what I don't understand about your attitude: Why would you have to re-purchase any apps when Apple releases a 7 inch iPad? The same old apps will run completely unchanged on your 10 inch iPad, and the 7 inch iPad costs exactly zero dollars if you don't buy it, but keep your old iPad.

He's probably confused when he sees expensive $15 iPad apps which are basically the same app from the iphone with a higher resolution but with a name tacked on "HD version". But yes, just run the iphone/ipod apps on your ipad it's the same OS it works just fine.
 
I never really wanted an iPad until I went into an Apple store and played with one, and then I sort of changed my mind a bit. Now, I think I will buy one once a new generation comes out with a front facing camera for facetime. I think the 7" form factor has pro's and cons.

Pros: More portable and discreet, less weighty so easier to hold for longer (like the new kindle), Hopefully cheaper or better features for similar price tag.

Cons: Can't imagine typing on the screen would be much fun, Screen might be too small for browsing on the internet comfortably by taking in whole pages....Would most likely mean browsing style similar to on the iPhone / iPad where you have to zoom in and frame the text you want to read.

I don't see the iPad as a replacement laptop for me as I work in design and animation, and therefore need something that runs proper apps and has a file system....But I do see it fitting in to the leisurely side of my life. Ideally, I'd want it for the front room for casual browsing and email / fun stuff.

I would also like a Mac Mini for under the TV and to rip all my DVD's and movies onto it via external HD. This would then also be controllable via the Air mouse app.
 
Kindle Killer.

With Kindles at $139? I doubt it.

Anyway, I was pretty vehement (in this forum, probably) about not buying an iPad unless it was (a) about the size of this rumored version and (b) 16:9 or something close to it.

Then, like so many others, I saw one in the store. That's when you realize that the size is perfect. I mostly use it for surfing, email and light productivity stuff. It can replace a laptop for me on business trips. Heck, if it weren't for my hobby - photography - it could probably replace a computer period.

That said, I'd find a 7" widescreen iPad hard to resist...
 
It's Apple, so perhaps $100 below the equivalent iPad storage size if we're lucky.

$64,000 question - IF Apple does a 7" iPad what would be the right price? $100 less does not strike me as enough to entice the consumer - maybe $150-200 less would.

Not necessarily true. A 7" iPad could start at $299 or $349 for 16GB, $379 or $399 for a 32GB, and $479 or $499 for a 64GB model. At the same time I would expect the current iPad to either drop the 16GB model and go $499 for 32GB and $599 for 64GB to avoid being not worth it compared to the 7" model or possibly keeping the 16GB model at $429. Regardless of the introduction of a 7" model, the prices/storage capacities will either see a change pre-holiday or more likely next spring when iPad 2.0 comes out. The only reason I say next spring is that iPad sales are so strong right now and supply is constrained enough that they don't really need a pre-holiday price drop to drive holiday sales. But expect a slight Black Friday discount on iPads to move some product.

Good point on the 9" iPad dropping the 16gb model with a 7" iPad. I could even see Apple not doing a 64gb 7" iPad.
 
Didn't see it mentioned... while I like my iPad the size it is, and can't see myself going smaller before bigger, the 7" would make it so you can hold it in portrait mode and type with your thumbs much easier/damn near perfectly compared to the 9.7" (I can pretty well and reach all the buttons, but my lady can't reach the middle ones without stretching.)
 
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