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7-Inch iPad Resembling iPhone 4 Now a 'Finished Product'?

Maybe Facetime?

I think that it would be much easier to make a call with Facetime in 7" than with a 9.7" iPad, Maybe that's a reason for Apple to do a new product. Just remember that SJ said that Facetime would be in millions of iOS devices later this year.

P.D: Watch on youtube some videos of the Galaxy Tab and you will realize of what I'm saying,
 
Jamie 360 said:
BIGGER!!! I want a 12-13". Only way I can justify it. Significantly bigger than my iPhone and I could eliminate my Macbook. Why make it smaller, closer to the iPhone, I don't get it:confused:
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Apple doesn't want you to eliminate your need of a MacBook. They want to create a need for a product that doesn't exist. :)

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I think the Galaxy Tab might be a better product considering the ipad didn't even have a print function when it came out.

In terms of flexibility, the ipad is pretty poor, no SD/expandable media, no camera, Apple could learn a few lessons. But I guess as long as their customers are willing to go for 'magic' over function, that really isn't going to happen soon.
 
mutantteenager said:
I think the Galaxy Tab might be a better product considering the ipad didn't even have a print function when it came out.

In terms of flexibility, the ipad is pretty poor, no SD/expandable media, no camera, Apple could learn a few lessons. But I guess as long as their customers are willing to go for 'magic' over function, that really isn't going to happen soon.
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It's a near certainty that whatever v2 iPad Apple releases (be it 7" or 9") - will have dual cameras and Facetime support.
 
svndmvn said:
I think somebody might be mistaking the samsung galaxy tab with a 7" tab looking like an iPhone4. They do look alike quite a bit, camera+flash, dock connector etc
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...And interface. Samsung's Android skin for their tablet is next to identical to iOS.
 
I was watching DS9 the other night, and it occurred to me that 7" looks like about the same form factor as the PADD's in Star Trek (at least DS9). They're usually held in one hand, sometimes one in each hand when reading, but take two hands to make input on.
 
if released for holiday season:

big iPod (or rectangular iPad)

entry price $399

upset: no retina or back cameras to cut costs

either: 16GB, no front camera OR 8GB with front camera

possible/guess: 8GB & no front camera reduce price ($379) to widen market.

hope: uses 512 MB A4 instead of 256MB.


otherwise,

wait for next year and align 9.6" and 7" iPads with new A4 and front cameras.



P.
 
mutantteenager said:
I think the Galaxy Tab might be a better product considering the ipad didn't even have a print function when it came out.

In terms of flexibility, the ipad is pretty poor, no SD/expandable media, no camera, Apple could learn a few lessons. But I guess as long as their customers are willing to go for 'magic' over function, that really isn't going to happen soon.
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Usability >>> feature list. You should learn a little about Apple's design principles. Apple sells a lot of iPads because they work incredibly well, not because they focussed all their efforts on the making the spec sheet looking nice at the expense of usability. I do want to try out a Galaxy Tab when it comes out though.

PS: There have always been plenty of printing apps available, 4.2 will just improve on that ability and make it easier to do. SD cards can be accessed through a dongle if need be. I like the fact that Apple's products don't have anemic memory that need to be supplemented by an SD card (of course I'd always welcome the option to add more). Why would you want to take pictures on a 10" tablet? Some people will like the front camera likely coming in the next generation though.

hitekalex said:
It's a near certainty that whatever v2 iPad Apple releases (be it 7" or 9") - will have dual cameras and Facetime support.
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I still don't know why you'd put a rear facing camera on a device as large as an iPad.
 
mutantteenager said:
I think the Galaxy Tab might be a better product considering the ipad didn't even have a print function when it came out.

In terms of flexibility, the ipad is pretty poor, no SD/expandable media, no camera, Apple could learn a few lessons. But I guess as long as their customers are willing to go for 'magic' over function, that really isn't going to happen soon.
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As much as it might pain you to admit, checkmarks on feature lists don't sell highly integrated devices.
 
paradox00 said:
I still don't know why you'd put a rear facing camera on a device as large as an iPad.
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For FaceTime calls when you wanna show what's in front of you (à la the iPhone 4). For business inventory purposes. Or personal inventory (scanning your DVDs, CDs, books, et cetera). For augmented reality apps (holding your iPad up and seeing info about constellations overlaid on the camera's input, info about the nearest restaurants based on where you hold the iPad up to). With that space you could fit in a bigger camera so HDR photos at 5+ megapixels could be a reality, and the 9.7" screen is a great one for showing off those photos.
 
If this does happen to be real then the iPhone form factor makes sense. They couldn't just scale down the iPad proportionally, as the battery would be too small. This 7" iPad will have (nearly) all the power requirements of the 9" iPad, so it'll need a similar battery to get a reasonable amount of life. Squaring off the back will give them space for a bigger battery.
 
If it actually happens, it will be a device aimed at the ipod touch crowd and to non-apple (kindle) people. I can't imagine a small ipad being of use TO ME. I use it to store and edit documents, read books with easy viewing, browse full webpages at a viewable size and watch movies at a good size.

For people who want to play games and read books and don't already own an iPhone, I think a 7" model could work. Just because it is not in the least appealing to me doesn't mean it's not valid. Actually, it likely makes it MORE valid because they aren't cross pollinating the market.

All that said, I think it has to be priced at $199, $299, $399 for 16/32/64. You start pricing it higher than $299 for an entry point and you'll lose the crowd who really wants it.




ash =o)
 
mutantteenager said:
In terms of flexibility, the ipad is pretty poor, no SD/expandable media, no camera, Apple could learn a few lessons. But I guess as long as their customers are willing to go for 'magic' over function, that really isn't going to happen soon.
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It's true some people will buy an item for the "shiny" factor; but if it doesn't work well for them, they don't continue to rave about it. That's the part guys like you don't really get.

Before I got my 1st gen iPod Touch, I just figured I was getting an iPod that, in a pinch, would let me check the web - but it's turned out to be an extremely useful device (and fun, obviously). The only real downside has been screen size for a few apps - e.g. when I remote into a server (say I'm offsite and there's a server problem), it's a bit cramped for an ssh session. An intermediate-sized pad would be perfect for that sort of thing.

As far as being expandable... my MacBook Pro had all sorts of connections, including card slots. How often did I use them? Almost never - having network access largely eliminates that need. Heck, I hardly use CDs and DVDs anymore with my computers - usually once to create an ISO/CDR image, and that's it.

I agree some people might find a camera useful. I'm not one of them, however.

Apple has, at times, made design decisions I don't like (e.g. putting an SD slot into a supposedly "Pro" laptop rather than a CF slot - if you're going to have a slot at all, it should be compatible with pro cameras). But during this decade it seems most of their choices get borne out over time.
 
jent said:
For FaceTime calls when you wanna show what's in front of you (à la the iPhone 4). For business inventory purposes. Or personal inventory (scanning your DVDs, CDs, books, et cetera). For augmented reality apps (holding your iPad up and seeing info about constellations overlaid on the camera's input, info about the nearest restaurants based on where you hold the iPad up to). With that space you could fit in a bigger camera so HDR photos at 5+ megapixels could be a reality, and the 9.7" screen is a great one for showing off those photos.
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Businesses would do better with a scanning attachment and probably an iPod touch. I'd rather take pictures with a camera or an iPhone than something as large as an iPad. In fact I'd implement a feature where you could send a photo from the iPhone to the iPad in one press.

You don't need a camera for augmented reality apps when looking at the stars, the camera would hardly pick anything up anyway.

It would be useful on the rare occasion, I just don't see it being a worthwhile addition at all.
 
mutantteenager said:
I think the Galaxy Tab might be a better product considering the ipad didn't even have a print function when it came out.

In terms of flexibility, the ipad is pretty poor, no SD/expandable media, no camera, Apple could learn a few lessons. But I guess as long as their customers are willing to go for 'magic' over function, that really isn't going to happen soon.
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hwhalers said:
As much as it might pain you to admit, checkmarks on feature lists don't sell highly integrated devices.
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I agree. I think Apple will release a 7" iPad and try to rain on the parade of the upcoming 7" Galaxy tab (and others)... Probably priced about $50 more.

The Korea times suggests $300-$400 price tag (without subsidies) for the Galaxy tab.

Apple has the tablet momentum.. Timing and lowering it's price (not adding lots of features, currently) is what will widen it's market.


P.
 
Apple needs a ireader

I thought the ipad was to compete with the kindle as a book reader. I would think that the people that buy the kindle use it to read e books and don't want all of these other things that the ipad can do. Now everyone wants a camera, faster processor. face-time. etc. etc. in the ipad. Apple should come out with a book reader only devise. It could be the size of a kindle, easy to hold and portable enough to take with you on a plane, train etc. No camera, facebook, face-time. etc. etc. just a book reader and price it line with the kindle.
 
I love how some people are so strongly against this issue, it's not like they will be removing the 9.7" and it's not like Apple is forcing you to buy anything, now if you're just mad because you have to have every new piece of tech and don't wanna buy this, that's a different issue
 
Great

Now all the critics of the iPad can be reaffirmed: "Just a big iPod touch"

Jeeze people, the only reason the iPad is so great is the large screen...anything less is a bastardized, half-assed iPod touch (without the retina ppi). Lame
 
Lesser Evets said:
That is the first question everyone probably asks.
Everyone with any intelligence.

A guess: cheaper price for more market?

A sub-$499 iPad would be nice, but look at the price of iPods. If the iPod Touch had dropped down to $149 or lower for a low-end intro model, I could expect the small iPad to be lowering down into the $299+ area, the full iPad going for $499+.

However, this product makes no sense: smaller, possible retina display but smaller battery, less space for extras. Weird, if true. Based on the age of this rumor, it could be happening.
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What extras do you want? The iPhone has all the functionality in it (+ more - its a phone, well, mostly, i.e. if you hold it right...). Maybe a USB, could be mini. 7inch is a cheaper retina display than 9. And it is less conspicuopus, smaller, lighter = better for travel.
 
Jamie 360 said:
BIGGER!!! I want a 12-13". Only way I can justify it. Significantly bigger than my iPhone and I could eliminate my Macbook. Why make it smaller, closer to the iPhone, I don't get it:confused:
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Bigger would be awesome, but once you have started using a retina display, everything else seems blurry by comparison.
 
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