Why would you assume someone else would regret their purchase choice? Should an Android user also tell you to report back after you regret your iPhone purchase?
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I never said it negated the study. Just posting my opinion because, you know, that's what I can do in a free society.
FWIW my work gave me an iPhone 6S last time, and I have a OnePlus 3 for my personal device. So I've got experience with both.
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On that note, I'd just add that one trend I've seen recently is the paranoia and focus on "computer/network security". People are rushing to get their CompTIA Security+ certifications left and right, and recruiters keep looking for talent in that specialty. They predict it will be one of the "top 10" best jobs to prepare for out of college today. The list goes on.
In reality? Most of this is brought on by people attaching so many things to the entire Internet (often rather needlessly), and then worrying about how to prevent anyone unintended from accessing them. The "Internet of Things" is, frankly, going to go down in history as a pretty dumb fad of an idea.
You don't need net connected refrigerators with small touch-screens on the front of them. You really don't need every vending machine to have its own IP address on the net and web UI to interact with the back end on it. I'm not even convinced there's any real demand for the "Internet printing" features companies like HP are rolling into their printers these days? (If you're nowhere near your printer, why so concerned that you can send a print job from anywhere in the world to come out right away on it? You're not there to pick it up or verify it printed ok anyway.)
ALL modern operating systems are chock-full of security flaws, and always will be. By the time they get a decent number of the holes sealed up, the entire OS is considered obsolete and they're on to the next one, with a whole NEW set of issues to find and patch!
If you don't want the outside world tinkering with your device, don't give them a path to its door in the first place! The military knows this. That's why they have their own internal network that interconnects everything without ever riding over the regular Internet. That's why research labs and manufacturing places still successfully run obsolete OS's like Windows XP every day for special purpose tasks controlling other hardware. Those systems aren't on the Internet.
So I don't put any stock in people's concerns that "OS X is more secure than Windows" or vice-versa .... It really doesn't matter, and is probably a moving target with every new point release of someone's OS.
In reality? Most of this is brought on by people attaching so many things to the entire Internet (often rather needlessly), and then worrying about how to prevent anyone unintended from accessing them. The "Internet of Things" is, frankly, going to go down in history as a pretty dumb fad of an idea.
You don't need net connected refrigerators with small touch-screens on the front of them. You really don't need every vending machine to have its own IP address on the net and web UI to interact with the back end on it. I'm not even convinced there's any real demand for the "Internet printing" features companies like HP are rolling into their printers these days? (If you're nowhere near your printer, why so concerned that you can send a print job from anywhere in the world to come out right away on it? You're not there to pick it up or verify it printed ok anyway.)
ALL modern operating systems are chock-full of security flaws, and always will be. By the time they get a decent number of the holes sealed up, the entire OS is considered obsolete and they're on to the next one, with a whole NEW set of issues to find and patch!
If you don't want the outside world tinkering with your device, don't give them a path to its door in the first place! The military knows this. That's why they have their own internal network that interconnects everything without ever riding over the regular Internet. That's why research labs and manufacturing places still successfully run obsolete OS's like Windows XP every day for special purpose tasks controlling other hardware. Those systems aren't on the Internet.
So I don't put any stock in people's concerns that "OS X is more secure than Windows" or vice-versa .... It really doesn't matter, and is probably a moving target with every new point release of someone's OS.
Correct. I never said I was. Just that I was given the option, and I chose Samsung's competitive offering to the iPhone X, over the iPhone 8.
Didn't realise I wasn't allowed to post that in a democratic forum. Must be my mistake.
No worries. Easy to do, I'm 100% guilty of it too. I think I called a load of members pieces of s&%t at one point :/
I didn't say you said it; you implied it with an irrelevant point.
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Because Android is garbage.
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Oh I see, they will regret it because you don't like it. You should probably dislike iOS because someone else doesn't like it as well.
We are clear that you're giving up on Apple because someone else doesn't like it. Where's your regret?
So when you said
you were actually saying, what?
I'm not sure what you think I was saying, but I was just saying I was offered both and I chose the sammy. Just that I was offered 2 phones, like the article said some people are, and I posted what I chose.
You brought the snark into this, not me.
Any of those users have to pay for those Macs? Makes a huge difference that.
The true proof in the pudding is when money is involved.
My company, a Fortune 50 company, offers choice Mac or PC but most of us choose PC because Macs integrate so poorly into a corporate environment. And it's not even compatibility with our own internal systems and applications (although that is a small part of it) it's more so the compatibility with our supplier and partner applications. Nothing works and it ends up being a bad experience.
They do not, however, offer a choice of smartphone. It's iOS only.
They do not, however, offer a choice of smartphone. It's iOS only.
I'd really like to know which "enterprise" customers outside of silicon valley even offer Macs as an option. Any company that takes its security seriously isn't even considering offering anything other than Windows. Active Directory is the rule of law, and cutsie laptops aren't going to change that.
In fact, most file types are standard today and popular software are cross platform, they are even making web based software so platform doesn't matter. Back in the 90's file formats were very specific. In fact I remember some website will only work right on internet explorer, something wouldn't happen now.
I used to work for a large enterprise and it was all windows. My new company is a mature startup and it’s probably 85-90% Mac and 90% iPhone. I’ve also noticed that every vendor we work with, including some big ones like Salesforce, use Mac and iOS.
But I question how much more productive Mac users are considering MS Office on Mac is total garbage, and Google docs/sheets is no better on Mac since they’re web apps.
Apple should spend more resources on iWorks. It’s already better than Office in some ways and blows away Google’s offerings. Make it more feature-rich to match Office’s power user features and promote the heck out of it. Sure, there’s no direct financial return since it’s free, but it will have a far more valuable effect: users will become further entrenched in Apple’s ecosystem and it’ll lead to more hardware sales.
But I question how much more productive Mac users are considering MS Office on Mac is total garbage, and Google docs/sheets is no better on Mac since they’re web apps.
Apple should spend more resources on iWorks. It’s already better than Office in some ways and blows away Google’s offerings. Make it more feature-rich to match Office’s power user features and promote the heck out of it. Sure, there’s no direct financial return since it’s free, but it will have a far more valuable effect: users will become further entrenched in Apple’s ecosystem and it’ll lead to more hardware sales.
Wait... you're asking Apple to improve their 1st party software? When pigs fly
I'm perfectly fine with MS Office on Mac. I use Outlook / PowerPoint / OneNote. Yes, I agree that if iWorks had more attention from Apple, it could be better. But it's clear that their current bread & butter is the mobile market. It's where they can make the most money off their supply chain. They have historically since the beginning been abysmal at iterating their 1st party software. If it weren't for 3rd party devs, I'm sure Macs nowadays wouldn't be that popular.
Because it ultimately isn't about the ability for users to work, but rather the feasibility of IT to manage. I'm the sysadmin at a 2000+ employee company, and my priorities in order are a) security b) management and c) user experience. And where the Mac fails is b) (and as a side effect of that, a) as well). If I need to push a piece of software out to a domain-joined PC for example, I can simply make a GPO and the software is installed on next reboot (which I can also remotely mass-schedule). A Mac, I would need to use a separate tool, which has limited management abilities, maybe 5% of what I can do with Group Policy. So it's more management work on IT's end, with limited affect.
Some other examples:
- We sync all user profiles with OneDrive for backup, using federated sign on so users don't need to log in to OneDrive for it to work. Can't be done on a Mac.
- I (until recently) used item level targeting to map network shares to certain branches and users. Can't be done on a Mac.
- I'm working on getting certificate services set up so we can use certificates to connect to things like Wifi, even after a password change. Can't be done on a Mac.
- We publish software in the Control Panel that users can install themselves, kind of like our own mini App Store that bypasses admin requirements. Since we're not about to give Mac users local admin rights, Can't be done on a Mac.
- I have some Powershell scripts that do all manner of things, from mapping drives from different domains to ensuring our main third-party enterprise suite is kept up to date daily. They can probably be replicated in Bash, but that's a ridiculous amount of extra work that no one in my department has any interest in taking on for the limited (and arguable) benefit of letting employees use Macs.
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I'm sure everything went smoothly on your end. But I'm also sure IT was not fond of you, as you created additional management headaches for them.
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That's one potential issue, but even if that weren't an issue the main issue if they're a pain in the ass to centrally manage. Anything that needs to be changed on a PC is a group policy away. Anything that needs to be changed on a Mac is likely going to require one of several different tools depending on what I need to do, if it's even doable in the first place. And I'd have to rewrite all my Powershell logon scripts in Bash, which I have no interest in doing for the limited benefit and considering how much time it takes and how much other work I need to do elsewhere.
Also, a blanket statement like that largely depends on what the company does. My company is rapidly expanding via acquisition, so maybe 50% of IT is dedicated to analyzing new branch offices to determine needs and installing new equipment, 30% is helpdesk, and 20% is back end management. If we even could switch to Mac, which we can't due to business needs as you mention, we'd still need 50% in the field, and while we could maybe reduce helpdesk to 20%, we'd need to add another 10% to back end management due to how cumbersome it is with Macs. Plus factor in that Macs are more expensive upfront, and with 2000+ devices in inventory (expanding to 5000+ over the next two years), even a $100 difference would mean another half a million dollars every three years spent on upgrades. So there would not really be any savings.
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Yes, I will say as painful as it is to support Macs, iOS devices are a breeze once you get the initial config out of the way. Configure a profile, assign it to a device, turn the device on for the first time, and within 5 minutes it's pulled in the profile and all associated apps, and is trackable. And because iOS can't really do all that much, there's a lot less that I need to lock down than on a Mac, which again makes it very easy to support.
Yeah, tell that the the guy who came over and had to rebuild my coworker's Windows machine because it started getting weird network problems.
So, an MDM. We are a split shop and we sync user profiles with OneDrive on Mac and PC. We push 802.1x certificates out to our Macs and PCs. We have a Self Service app where Mac users can install software, printers, map network drives, and more from an approved list without local admin. I create scripts that are stored in the MDM and can be applied to static groups, like containers in AD, but also to smart groups (all Macs at this particular campus with this version of software installed that do not belong to the IT group that have more than 90% of disk space used). And I can do all of this without touching a new machine through DEP from Apple. The machine gets drop-shipped to the user. I spend WAY less time working on my Macs than I do my PCs.
But you're right, our Mac users do have to log in to OneDrive. Once.
The day Apple convinces the US government to switch to macOS will be a huge day. MS will be....sad.
The day this happens is the day people will start writing viruses for Macs, and we should just move to another country.