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I use a s8 now and feel like I got burned. You pick a device and have to stick with it for 2 years or else get severely charged. The s8 freaking sucks because the curved glass registers touches when you just try to hold it in your hand. I know that apple goes the extra mile on UI features and would never let something this unusable get released. I hate my s8 and will definitely go iPhone next time knowing there won't be a severe usability flaw like this.
 
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I.T. Department staff could be cut in half if companies ran on Mac OS and iOS. There’s simply not the kind of craziness to deal with in the Apple ecosystem. The main issues they run into with macs is that they sometimes don’t play nice with some of the garbage windows solutions companies have to use.
 
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I never understood why Mac platform was/is not used in the business enviroments since way back in the 90s. Whenever I ask people who work in business they usually say they use software that is availible for both platforms and pretty common software like Office, accounting software, adobe and the like...etc.

I was a Mac/PC admin in the 90's and fought in the Mac Clone Wars. I bought several Mac clones because they finally made Macs cost competitive with PC's.

But the build quality you got for that cost reduction -- yuck. Put it side-by-side with an Apple Mac, and you'd instantly see the difference. Clone cases were cheapest quality. Built in speakers were awful. It gave me an appreciation for what a solid product Apple has always tried to build.

Second, MS Office existed for the Mac, but it wasn't 100% cross platform. It could open PC files, but formatting was hit or miss.
 
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It's my observation people are no more productive in the enterprise with a Mac. In fact it's the opposite. I can't tell you how many times I've waited on a conference call while a Mac user has to restart their virtual machine so they can present. All too often I see people having to work around Mac limitations which exist because it's a PC world. They seem to be oblivious to the extra work they're having to do to work within a PC ecosystem.

IMO many choose a Mac based on fashion / form more than functionality.
If you're using Windows-only software, of course it wouldn't make sense to use the Mac. Not all corps are like that, and the number that are is shrinking.
 
I have been using a Mac for work for the last 7 years. It was a real struggle when I first started, but now almost everything works better on my Mac than the Windows counterpart. That is the case for me at least. I deal with Windows machines daily.
 
lets be honest i don't see mac o.s. x taking over anytime soon the truth is riddled with bugs and holes (it's worse then cheese) and the main reason it is that way is because of Apples unwillingness to support from the physical hardware up though all the layers of Free BSD and though the interface that is Mac o.s.

windows is a lot better yet a bit more challenging with the nature of windows 10 updates and the dynamic nature of the o.s. i would say the security side is a lot better (and i don't jest mean from melware but file/folder promissions,account controls, login and logout scripts, automation (Software installs and uninstalls)).

and also the o.s. works hand in hand with the server version of windows.
 
I used to work at place where they give you Lenovo laptop and there’s no other options. After deleting Windows, installing Ubuntu and working for 2 month I gave up and started to bring my MacBook Air from home. I managed to spend their more than a year until they noticed and I had to quit.

Enterprise is so tricky, they always try to lock stuff down and add friction everything. More freedom I have, more productive I am.

Yeah, but people who are not tech savvy screw things up fast. You give people an inch, and their PCs are filled with viruses. I have to Control Access on nearly all of our PCs at work.
 
This. I have been out of the enterprise business for a few years but these figures surprise me. The reason is simple at least when i was still there. All the enterprise apps were built around a windows platform often requiring features in IE. I cannot believe it would have changed that much in a few years.

Docker has a lot to do with it. If someone needs a utility written in Linux both Windows and Mac can use it as part of a development or task workflow. The lines between OS’s are blurring very quickly.
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Yeah...I'm really just not convinced macOS offers much more than Photo syncing and Messages these days.

Three finger drag on track pads (helps prevent carpal tunnel)
Four finger drag between desktops and apps in full screen mode
Simplified app installation
Great screens with high dpi
Backlit keyboards
Fast performance for every day tasks
Excellent integration with iDevices

Best of all....

UNIX
 
Usually only mom and pop shops allow you to choose but large enterprises are predominately Windows and Linux in most major industries. Occasionally, software development or media departments might be more Mac focused.
Not at the companies I've worked for. Maybe if you work in finance they dictate using windows machines but for media Mac is the goto.
 
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Usually only mom and pop shops allow you to choose but large enterprises are predominately Windows and Linux in most major industries. Occasionally, software development or media departments might be more Mac focused.

Since the fall of BBOS iOS has been making huge strides, iPad was the darling of that transition.
Fortune 500 companies took up the fruit when MDMs began starting with MobileIron.
 
If you're using Windows-only software, of course it wouldn't make sense to use the Mac. Not all corps are like that, and the number that are is shrinking.
The point being the company I worked for had Mac users claiming they were more productive yet they had to juggle two operating systems because there were some programs that they had to run which had no OS X equivalent. They had the hassle of managing two operating systems, one of which is the OS they were trying to avoid. Time after time I saw these people claim to be more productive yet the overhead of managing multiple operating systems demonstrated otherwise. Yet, despite this, they continued to believe they were being more productive.

At my new company I had the opportunity to choose a Mac and I passed on it. Why? Because the tools I need are Windows only. Yes, I could run them in a VM / Docker environment on macOS. But why bother with that hassle. Every morning I log on to my PC and do my work. I cannot see how using a Mac would make me any more productive.
 
I made my company buy a mac for productivity needs. My PC collects dusts. Now that I have my PC refresh cycle, I went and got the latest Mac upgrade. I actually used a mac very casually when I was a consumer. For work, I have learned new things about my mac that I can't go back to PC for.
 
I really never had an appreciation for just how many trolls loved to hang out in MacRumors until now... I get that some people don't like the notch so there are plenty of hates in iPhone X stories, most hate siri, so that always shows up, and not everyone has the bucks for the home pod, so pile on the the hate there, but the level of venom directed towards a survey supporting the mac?! really? and all those who say the PC are better... than really .. what.. are.. you.. doing.. here? Mind boggling. I guess haters are really bored.
 
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Among enterprise organizations that allow employees to choose their equipment of choice, Apple is becoming an increasingly popular choice, according to new survey information shared this morning by Apple IT management platform Jamf.

52 percent of enterprise organizations let employees choose their computers, while 49 percent let employees choose their mobile devices.

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Of those organizations, 72 percent of employees included in Jamf's survey chose Mac, while 28 percent chose PC. As for mobile devices, 75 percent of respondents chose an iPhone or an iPad, while just 25 percent opted for an Android device.

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According to employees, the ability to choose their operating systems and devices of choice makes them more productive. 68 percent said choice improves productivity, and 77 percent said they're more likely to stay with a company that offers device choice.Jamf's survey was conducted in March of 2018 and includes responses from 580 executives, managers, and IT professionals from organizations around the world.

Article Link: 72% of Enterprise Employees Choose Macs Over PCs, 75% Pick iOS Devices Over Android

I work for an IT company that gives you a choice between PC and Mac. I chose Mac and never looked back. Many companies used to push Windows machines do to volume licensing agreements made with MS. Why bring in a Mac and have to buy two separate licenses for programs that don't exist on the Mac platform? (omigraffle VS Visio) for example.
 
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As has already been said, it was a poorly conducted survey. Also despite the lack of reference to the actual study, it was performed by JAMF, a company that sells enterprise device management solutions for Macs and iOS devices. A little biased considering all they published was a couple of conclusions. If they asked their own customers, there's already a huge selection bias that invalidates the study. From the final paragraph, it sounds like they asked their own contacts at their own customers. Let's see a link to how they explain their result?

It would be like take a poll on MacRumors "do you prefer iOS to Android" and when 90+% of responses are in favour iOS concluding that 90+% of the world population prefers iOS.

All that being said, the conclusion is still limited to "people who aren't paying for their computers and want the computers to be as expensive as possible for their employers as a sign of prestige want Apple products". It makes as much sense as asking people if they want their all expenses paid company car to be a Honda Fit or a Ferrari. That result would mean nothing in the real world, just like this survey means nothing in the real world.
You forgot to add this to your comment: 'Nuff said!
 
Yet you still post on this forum.
His signature says "2015 13" MBP, iPhone 6s, OnePlus 3, Apple TV, iPad Pro 10.5"
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The point being the company I worked for had Mac users claiming they were more productive yet they had to juggle two operating systems because there were some programs that they had to run which had no OS X equivalent. They had the hassle of managing two operating systems, one of which is the OS they were trying to avoid. Time after time I saw these people claim to be more productive yet the overhead of managing multiple operating systems demonstrated otherwise. Yet, despite this, they continued to believe they were being more productive.

At my new company I had the opportunity to choose a Mac and I passed on it. Why? Because the tools I need are Windows only. Yes, I could run them in a VM / Docker environment on macOS. But why bother with that hassle. Every morning I log on to my PC and do my work. I cannot see how using a Mac would make me any more productive.
If you didn't have Windows-only software, the Mac would be more productive for various smaller reasons. Generally less non-work stuff you have to do to make it usable, especially if you need security (which everyone does).
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Usually only mom and pop shops allow you to choose but large enterprises are predominately Windows and Linux in most major industries. Occasionally, software development or media departments might be more Mac focused.
Nobody uses Windows in the tech industry unless it's something platform-specific like gaming. It's all Mac and Linux for personal machines, mostly Mac.
 
If you didn't have Windows-only software, the Mac would be more productive for various smaller reasons. Generally less non-work stuff you have to do to make it usable, especially if you need security (which everyone does).
This is a completely different discussion.

The reality is the company I am referring to did have Windows only software for which Mac users needed to run. Therefore they had to use Windows in some fashion (Bootcamp, virtualization, etc) in order to perform their job. Despite this they claimed they were being more productive. IOW you can't depend on the users to determine if they're really being more productive or not because, as this example shows, they thought they were even though they were not.
 
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As has already been said, it was a poorly conducted survey. Also despite the lack of reference to the actual study, it was performed by JAMF, a company that sells enterprise device management solutions for Macs and iOS devices. A little biased considering all they published was a couple of conclusions. If they asked their own customers, there's already a huge selection bias that invalidates the study. From the final paragraph, it sounds like they asked their own contacts at their own customers. Let's see a link to how they explain their result?

It would be like take a poll on MacRumors "do you prefer iOS to Android" and when 90+% of responses are in favour iOS concluding that 90+% of the world population prefers iOS.

All that being said, the conclusion is still limited to "people who aren't paying for their computers and want the computers to be as expensive as possible for their employers as a sign of prestige want Apple products". It makes as much sense as asking people if they want their all expenses paid company car to be a Honda Fit or a Ferrari. That result would mean nothing in the real world, just like this survey means nothing in the real world.

So you’re comparing Apple to Ferrari and competitors to Honda?

That right there already says a lot about Apple. That they’re the preferred premium option, if given the option to choose ANYTHING.
 
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