We don't know that yet. NAB is April 16th one month into Spring. CS3 is promised for Spring as is Leopard. So the window could extend as far as the WWDC June 11 SteveNote. But I like to imagine April 16th will be the date. I'm not predicting anything. Last time I said I hope the January rumor is true, I was taken as one who believed it - which I did not. There are a few on this list who like to blame me for predicting wrong dates so I ain't playing the when game any more AT ALL.what month would cs3 come out?
i'm having a real hard time not ordering a mac pro right now, but am kind of forcing myself to wait until feb20
I ordered mine right after MacWorld, received it on Friday -- it is amazing. But I am using it for digital photography/Photoshop, not video, so I probably would not have opted for an 8 core even if they were available.
FYI, using the RetouchArtists Photoshop Speed Test my new Mac Pro 2.66 with 4 gigs of RAM and a RAID 0 scratch/data disk is 9 times faster than my Pentium4 2.8ghz PC with 1.5 gigs of ram (~30 seconds on this benchmark as opposed to 4:30).
I will be a little annoyed if a revised quad core comes out Feb 20, though I am really not sure what they might do to revise it at this point, othe than perhaps a price drop.
Oops. Never mind.Sorry, I should have mentioned that is running CS3 beta on both platforms, so it is universal binary.
Also, my understanding is that Photoshop will not really benefit from any more cores. See this article...
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2006/12/photoshop_and_multicore.html
And that's under Rosetta. Means an 8 core Mac Pro with the UB Photoshop will proably take 5 seconds at most.Wow!
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OMG! I was still thinking of shooting in ARRI Super-16, scan and transfer to digital then edit and output in HD format through my Mac Pro. I must confess I was out for a long long time. The 12M (4520 X 2540) resolution is close to my still DSLR resolution and way beyond Super-16 film resolution. Now I think even the new 8-core Mac Pro may not be adequate enough for this Digital Cine pack! Look like my HD dream will be further and further away.
FYI - Just discovered Dell is now offering a larger 27" 1920 x 1200 HD resolution 2707WFP monitor now for $1259 vs their 24" 2407WFP which is a steal @ $674 now (10% off sale).
Only does 12ms response and 1000:1 Contrast Ratio though. No Big Deal. My VGA + Dual HDMI + Dual Component In 40" Samsung HDTV is 8ms response time and 6000:1 contrast ratio. And it was only $1680 delivered from Brooklyn.
as an alternative is there anyway to input my xbox360 in a ACD?
i was hoping to just input the signal trough some sort of cable
the xbox doesnt fit anywhere by the way, and it makes more noise than a jet airplane taking off, it has some great games mainly because microsoft just buys support from studios but the hardware is just horrible, its impressive how they managed to get the dvd drive that noisy![]()
With the RED One you can shoot in 2K using s16 lenses and gain all the properties of s16 format including equivalent DOF and approximate resolution. Or you can shoot in 4K with 35mm glass and gain the shallower DOF and higher detail and then output to 2K for post and editing. Most film workflows these days that go digital for post are still scanned at 2K, there is very little actual 4K production out there. RED One is ahead of the curve in this respect. But 2K is fine and the current Mac Pro should handle it just fine, 8-core systems even better when they arrive.
I've got a project that I'm going to be shooting toward the end of this year. I'm planning to use RED - either mine or borrow/rent another. If something happens where that's not possible, then I'll have to rent something else. I'd like to stay all digital to avoid the mounting costs of film processing/scanning, so I'd probably rent an Arri D20, but those are super expensive to rent and it may be cheaper to go with film since I'll need the camera for 2 to 3 weeks.
Hey AV. Sony is about to ship their next and best-to-date consumer HDV camera the HDR-HC7 with manual audio gain, top loading and a better ClearVID CMOS sensor List $1400. But I still like the HVR-V1U better list $4900, street $3200+. Both have HDMI output so they will interface with the Blackmagic Design Intensity PCIe Mac Pro cards.Thx AppliedVisual, I'm so glad to know I'm not alone on the path to migration from SD to HD or even Digi-cine. Unlike in many parts of the World, HK is a very small city with very little to no choice on cine-gear and HD rentals. Besides many rental house are big brothers production houses or co-production firms themselves. Rental fees are sky-high plus high rental deposit. From time to time, I always plan on buying my own gear. My ARRI Super-16 SR II Plan was crushed and abandoned ( my banker failed me ) and give way to my Video gear which proved to be more easy " Account Balance " than the film ventures. For the cost of a set of ARRI Super-16 SR II body with a few film magazines/video assist, three primes and one zoom lens budget, I had got myself two 1/2" 3-FIT CCD pro camera heads, Canon BCTV Zooms, Betacam dock and a ES of my own, 13 years ago. But with SD/DV/DVCAM/DVCPro/DCVPro50 true digital migration, The cost for equivalent setup was only half befoe. Now my present Mac Pro ( Dual Dual-Cores ) and my future Mac Pro ( 8 or 16 Cores )should be able to handle my future 2K HD migration! and at a fraction of the cost plus minimum hardware add-on cards. OMG, I'm glad I'm still alive today. Certainly, I will soon arrive at my cross-road ( HD/Digi-Cine ) but I'm really glad I'm not alone this time! So glad to meet you guys here.
Just hope the 8+/cores Mac Pro can help my HD way out smooth.
i was hoping to just input the signal trough some sort of cable
the xbox doesnt fit anywhere by the way, and it makes more noise than a jet airplane taking off, it has some great games mainly because microsoft just buys support from studios but the hardware is just horrible, its impressive how they managed to get the dvd drive that noisy![]()
My Xbox fits perfectly into the card board box they sent me so I can ship it back for repairs.......twice......![]()
Hey AV. Sony is about to ship their next and best-to-date consumer HDV camera the HDR-HC7 with manual audio gain, top loading and a better ClearVID CMOS sensor List $1400. But I still like the HVR-V1U better list $4900, street $3200+. Both have HDMI output so they will interface with the Blackmagic Design Intensity PCIe Mac Pro cards.
What do you think?
I know you're a RED ONE guy, but if you were a pro-sumer instead, which way would you go?
That's already out. The Canon XL H1 and XH G1 both have SDI uncompressed HD outputs. BUT they do not have HDMI out, which is the port needed to interface directly with the Intensity card(s). There is a kludge work around. Analog Component to HDMI converters are coming out for around $299. All the HDV cameras have analog component out. But that's a pretty expensive work around.Multimedia, before AppliedVisual's answer to your thread, may I jam-in the discussion. Looks like the new Sony HVR-V1V is very similar to that Panasonic HVX200 in the in-camera DSP part. Both camcorders tries to take advantages of pixel shifting tech and other chip level DSPs to raise the resolution/colour to match full-HD ( 1920 X 1080i or P ) specs. I recall our friend AppliedVisual has a copy of the Pana HVX200 camcorder and a Canon HDV Chainsaw himself. I guess he will be the BEST to give us some in-depth opinion on the Pana's or the Sony's. IF it's true for full-HD spec to become the new market trend for the pro-sumer camcorder market, we should expect Canon to release it's Chainsaw full-HD exchangable lens camcorder soon later this year.
I'm out of time. Have a gig I will need to get a HD camera no later than a week after NAB at the latest. Leaning toward the Sony HVR-V1U (Sony Site) now.Then it would look like another wait and wait game will never end. Perhaps the wait for the 8+/cores Mac Pro will be over long before the release full-HD spec pro-sumer camcorders.
Yes I know about it. And it will work with the Blackmagic Design $249 Intensity PCIe card for Mac Pro and soon last gen PCIe G5 PowerMacs as well as will any HD camcorder with HDMI output. But this new Canon HV20 shipping in April looked great (real 24p capable) until I noticed it's missing a LANC port so one can't run a remote VariZoom Tripod Controller with it. Makes it DOA for me. And it really bums me out. Their prosumer, industrial and pro cameras all have a LANC port. Why the consumer division thinks none of their customers ever use a remote zoom control is beyond my ability to comprehend. It's plain CRAZY. Here is Canon's opening page for the HV20 FYI. It's also interesting to note that this is the first camera to ever come from ANY DIVISION at Canon with a HDMI port on it. NONE of their Pro HDV cameras have HDMI out BUT THEY ALL HAVE LANC PORTS. Go figure the insanity in their feature Nazis' committee.New Canon HV20 Ships in April. I don't know if it will interface to the Blackmagic PCIe card, but it does state that it has HDMI interface. Anybody hear anything about this? I think it comes in around a $1100.
That's already out. The Canon XL H1 and XH G1 both have SDI uncompressed HD outputs. BUT they do not have HDMI out, which is the port needed to interface directly with the Intensity card(s). There is a kludge work around. Analog Component to HDMI converters are coming out for around $299. All the HDV cameras have analog component out. But that's a pretty expensive work around.I'm out of time. Have a gig I will need to get a HD camera no later than a week after NAB at the latest. Leaning toward the Sony HVR-V1U (Sony Site) now.Yes I know about it. And it will work with the Blackmagic Design $249 Intensity PCIe card for Mac Pro and soon last gen PCIe G5 PowerMacs as well as will any HD camcorder with HDMI output. But this new Canon HV20 shipping in April looked great (real 24p capable) until I noticed it's missing a LANC port so one can't run a remote VariZoom Tripod Controller with it. Makes it DOA for me. And it really bums me out. Their prosumer, industrial and pro cameras all have a LANC port. Why the consumer division thinks none of their customers ever use a remote zoom control is beyond my ability to comprehend. It's plain CRAZY. Here is Canon's opening page for the HV20 FYI. It's also interesting to note that this is the first camera to ever come from ANY DIVISION at Canon with a HDMI port on it. NONE of their Pro HDV cameras have HDMI out BUT THEY ALL HAVE LANC PORTS. Go figure the insanity in their feature Nazis' committee.
Although the new $1400 Sony HDR-HC7 (camcorderinfo.com First Impression Review) has everything one could minimally need for real production including top loading, manual audio gain with an external audio input and headphone jack, a LANC port as well as HDMI out, the $4890 Sony HVR-V1U (camcorderinfo.com Intro Article) can shoot slow motion for up to 12 continuous seconds (48 seconds playback) while the HC7 can only shoot slowmo for 3 seconds (12 seconds playback) at a time. The HVR-V1U is also real both 24p & 30p. And there's a whole bunch of added controls in there and 3 ClearVid CMOS sensors. Plus it has the ability to easily run various audio options much more easily that way and the parallel Hard Drive recording capability. One other obscure feature I would love to use in extra low light is the ability to boost the gain to +36db - twice the normal +18db max gain in all prosumer cameras to date. I believe they call it Hyper-Gain and you access it through the menu or put it in a preset.
So while that whole package is going to cost a lot more, at my level I'm thinking it can serve me much better in the long run to invest in the HVR-V1U, VCL-HGo862K .8x wide lens, HVR-DR60 HDD recorder, HVL-LBP LCD light, VCT-1BP HDD mount and the UWP-C1 diversity mic receiver plus wireless mic transmitter. Should run almost $10k. But I guess that will be the cheapest way for me to get up to date with HD - both HDV and better via the Blackmagic HDMI input system - for less than $10k rather than more than $30k as AV will be doing. I just don't have that level of cash flow right now.
I plan on adding a pair of Sony HDR-HC7 (Sony Site) camcorders for a three camera shooting solution once On-Air 3.0 ships for 3 HDMI Out cameras live shoots with 3 Intensity cards in Mac Pros and last gen G5 PowerMacs this Spring. That will be the "poor person's" pro HD studio system once it's up and working reliably. Am very excited how the Dual Clovertown will help make that system work much more efficiently than anything less could ever do, although I would love to find it working well enough for the Quad G5 to be an alternative host for the 3 camera shoots. Back to the studio for post on the Dual Clovertown Mac Pro. I can't wait for all these parts to come together this Spring. Gonna be one hell of a sea change in video production that's for sure. Here's a bunch of Blackmagic Design Case Studies.
No they are not merely HDV. They both have full uncompressed HD outputs that leave the camera 1920 x 1080 with the full uncompressed HD signal before that signal also goes through a HDV codec down to 1440 x 1080 on the way to mini DV tape. Same is true of all HDMI output cameras that also output uncompressed 1920 x 1080 native HD video from native 1920 x 1080 sensors, like the Sony HDR-HC7 and HVR-V1U, in addition to recording 1440 x 1080 HDV on miniDV tape.Sorry Sir,
Current Canon XL H1 and XH G1 are not Full-HD Spec ( 1920 X 1080 i or P ) , they're merely HDV. Both resolution and colour space are inferior than Full-HD Spec. I guessed ! But current Mac Pro and Final Cut Pro support both HDV and Full-HD video. That's the good news!
Also on the G1. But no HDMI out on any of the Canon's EXCEPT the new HV20 which has NO LANC port rendering it DOA.Multimedia,
Thanks for your advice again, including, I had not done my homework well enough, Sorry! Be honest, my dear wife always complaints the same! Hahahaha
Yes, you're right about the Full-HD output on Canon XL- H1 but only available through it's built-in SDI output for live feed.
Well I'm looking at longer HDMI cables with built-in repeaters coming from HomeAVCables.com at 98 feet now for only $185 each and longer soon. I see the Mac Pro with Intensity cards as a poor person's HDVR with both 4 and 8 cores. And once BlackMagic Design fixes the bug in the last gen PowerMac G5 PCIe's bus, even those old timers may have longevity as basic HDVRs via Intensity cards in them as well.But I don't have portable SDI interfaced video recorder with me. So in my case, I may need an one piece Full-HD Spec. Camcorder to shoot and record on locations. Yes, you are right about HDMI provisions because it's a less expensive interface than the SDI and HDMI periperials will be more easily available and inexpensive soon. But SDI is designed for Pro Video industry and can carry live video signal through long to very long cables while the HDMI is designed for very close range transmission I guessed.
I guess Panasonic P2 video camcorder may seem to be my only solution right now as it's inexpensive and flexible enough for my initial Full-HD migration this year if I have a HD project.
Certainly, I expect more and more Full-HD Spec. Pro-sumer video camcorders coming out through 2007. If you can't wait, can't help. I'll keep my fingers crossed and wait for the latest updates on both Full-HD Camcorders and 8+/cores Mac Pro before I go out and shop again!
damn, that scares me, i voided my warrenty when i opened the xbox for some reason(..) i pray everyday it doesnt break down, although that would make it more silent![]()