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Originally posted by mcrain
Here's the reg on the issue. Also on the web site, so your argument that we haven't done enough to inform the public is silly.

http://www.revenue.state.il.us/legalinformation/regs/part150/150-101.pdf
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I'm sorry. Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but nowhere in that document does it make mention of an exception for items you have already paid state tax on. Therefore people who buy items in state must pay sales tax AND use tax?

I'm not a constitutional scholar, but I have to believe the states would be given a run for their money proving the constitutionality of these taxes if it ever went to the Supreme Court.
 
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Originally posted by mcrain


Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for violating the law.
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doesn't your signature say:"fear the taxman"?
yet you are defending them with such fire
does this mean:
a) you are a taxman and we should rightfully fear you
b) you are extremely honest and believes in paying his dues to society
c) you just like to be right despite your personal feelings towards the subject
d) none of the above?
 
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Originally posted by Matthé


doesn't your signature say:"fear the taxman"?
yet you are defending them with such fire
does this mean:
a) you are a taxman and we should rightfully fear you
b) you are extremely honest and believes in paying his dues to society
c) you just like to be right despite your personal feelings towards the subject
d) none of the above?
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I would think that he would fall under (a), but he's not with the IRS. I think he's a tax lawyer.

Have you watched the movie The Firm (or read the book)? Those guys were tax lawyers.

mcrain, is your life as exciting at Mitch's?
 
Originally posted by Spock
Hey can someone give me their old TiBook? I will pay shipping.
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Give??? I will 'give' it to you, if you pay about $2000 shipping, plus handling. How about it???

The Vulcan heat must be getting to you. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by wrylachlan
I'm sorry. Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but nowhere in that document does it make mention of an exception for items you have already paid state tax on. Therefore people who buy items in state must pay sales tax AND use tax?

I'm not a constitutional scholar, but I have to believe the states would be given a run for their money proving the constitutionality of these taxes if it ever went to the Supreme Court.
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Couple of points.

These types of taxes have been tested and do not interfere unconstitutionally with interstate commerce.

Second, there are exceptions to the payment of use taxes, however, the reg posted is not the reg that describes those. That reg is merely a cite to authority for the proposition that if you purchase a product outside of your state and do not pay sales tax on the purchase, you may owe use tax in your home state.
 
try to pass a a young kid, move to los gatos, and join steve wozniak's class

...i am sure he will supply you with one

he has a few bucks last time i checked...but don't get too greedy, he is not a multi-billionaire so just ask for the lower end tibook:p
 
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Originally posted by ftaok
I would think that he would fall under (a), but he's not with the IRS. I think he's a tax lawyer.

Have you watched the movie The Firm (or read the book)? Those guys were tax lawyers.

mcrain, is your life as exciting at Mitch's?
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I'm a tax lawyer, but not for the IRS. I do, however, work for a government agency enforcing tax laws. Oh, and no, my life is no where near that exciting.
 
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Originally posted by mcrain


I'm a tax lawyer, but not for the IRS. I do, however, work for a government agency enforcing tax laws. Oh, and no, my life is no where near that exciting.
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you mean you don't have jamaican beauties throwing themselves at you on a tropical island?;)
 
Too Bad!

Originally posted by mcrain
Oh, and no, my life is no where near that exciting.
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That's too bad. I personally think that Jeanne Tripplehorn is one of the most underratedly beautiful women in the world.
 
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Originally posted by mcrain


I'm a tax lawyer, but not for the IRS. I do, however, work for a government agency enforcing tax laws. Oh, and no, my life is no where near that exciting.
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so, do you think we should pay taxes when we can avoid to do so?
or do you believe in the justness of your profession?
 
Sales Tax does matter, especially in Europe

Coming back one more time to the sales tax problem, here in Europe you con see the difference in you go online to the nations apple-stores. For the Ti-Book the prices differ about 4406Euro in Germany to 4558 Euro in Austria. That´s the salestax difference. In Dollar thats about 140$ difference. For the same product, the same software, the same language. So for people coming from Austria it´s a lot cheaper to shop in Germany. By the way, salestax in Germany is 16%. We can dream of salestaxes under 10%.

So you buy what you get and you shoudn´t complain. Compare and then decide.

Greetings from the old world
 
Originally posted by Spock
No I am not a Travis I was just joking I have the 800 on order.
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Good to have that cleared up... for future reference, you might want to put a 'j/k' at the end of a post like that, so that we all know. People tend to take things a weee bit too literally here. :D
 
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Originally posted by mcrain
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for violating the law. Try that defense out the next time you try to get out of an obscure traffic ticket.

The various Departments of Revenue in the state education the citizens of their states through releasing publications, printing readiliy available forms, having telephone assistance lines, etc...

On top of that, as a taxpayer, you are obligated to pay the taxes you owe.

If your point is that the ST-44 Use tax return doesn't prove that a use tax is owed in situations where no sales tax was collected, then try reading 35 ILCS 105/3 as an example of one state's use tax.
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Hmmm. Seems there's a subtle flaw in your argument, unless I'm very much mistaken (which you will surely point out). In CA it looks as if the Use Tax is only applicable to the seller, not the buyer.
http://www.boe.ca.gov/sutax/sutprograms.htm

Or am I just completely off base again?
 
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Originally posted by ftaok
How does one determine the "value" added by the last step? Is it the mark-up by the vendor from his supplier? Seems to me like it would be pretty easy for a vendor to get his supply from his own distributor and thus add very little "value".

But I'm sure they've thought of this and put in some other language preventing this. Those sneaky law-makers are always one step ahead (most of the time).

NOTE - no offense intended to the law-makers that may or may not frequent this board.
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I believe (I may be wrong) that European VAT is levied WHEN value is added to a product, not on the proportion of value added. What this means is that the end user pays, say, 17.5 percent in Britain; but if you're a business, a corporation, or self-employed, you don't pay the tax at all because you're using the product to enhance the value of something else that you're selling. In contrast, US sales tax is levied all the time even if it means the item effectively gets taxed more than once; sheet steel from factory to middleman and sheet steel from middleman to car manufacturer. As a result it is pretty much unavoidable unless you're a nonprofit (or using mail-order across state lines:D ) Overall, though, I still think the US sales tax ends up being slightly lower than VAT.
 
dblissmn, not quite for the US... business have tax numbers that allow them to get materials without paying tax on them. If you are making the final product, then the buyer pays the sales tax, and you send it in. About 90% of businesses have tax numbers, to avoid paying sales tax. If I buy steel to make blades (did it before), as well as handle materials, etc, with the tax number, I don't pay tax on any of it. When I sell the finished product, I have to charge sales tax, and then turn it into the state. Otherwise prices would be inflated beyond belief.
 
Thanks, Alpha. And so now we know -- definitely a huge advantage tax-wise for sales tax over European VAT even with the more limited business/government/self-employed user exemptions here. I guess we have more exemptions than I thought we did.
 
Alright, I'm gonna go for the new powerbook. Does anyone know if that Brenthaven backpack is any good? Sounds cool and would be useful as a student.... Oh and is there anything else I need for it, being my first mac?

-jeff
 
I think I will probably buy the new TiBook 667 as my second Mac after nearly 4 years I bought my first PPC 7220/200. Some of my concerns are that the fan noise and heat problem that I heard from current PB G4 users. anyone know if these issues already solved?:)
 
RE: New 800 MHz PowerBook & Heat

I just got to play with one of the new 800MHz PowerBooks tonight at the local Apple Store. They had both the 800's & 667's in but had not put the 667 out yet.

I set up some Quicktime movies to play simultaneously and keep looping. I used to have a 550 & this would eventualy heat up the area around the power button. I am very happy to say that although the 800 got warm it was noticeably cooler that the previous 550's & 667's.

We turned the new PowerBook over and there is something new there. There's a new panel about the size of the battery cover but located near the opposite corner but closer to the middle. I don't know what it's made of but it's a different material from the case...possibly some sort of heat sink?

I only had a few minutes to play with it before closing time but an Apple associate also pointed out that the speakers have been improved. I noticed an improvement over the 550/667 speakers and the crappy 400/500 ones.

Alll, in all a very 'cool' update indeed. Now, should I go for the 667 or really stretch my budget for the 800?

M1
 
heat issue

Thanx for your report moby. If apple kind of solved the heat problem, then why don't they tell us officially? Even on the dev pages they don't give any precise info about the processor.
Hmm, anyway - i just ordered the 667.
 
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