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800mhz TiBook!

If Apple indeed solved (or alleviated) the heating problem, I'm going to have to seriously consider buying the new 667. That had been one of my big concerns; I'm in the market for a laptop and have until now been considering the 12 inch iBook. The new features like the higher res screen, DVI support and good cache architecture finally give me some reasons to go for something fancier (along the lines of features that might actually enable me to keep the book for longer than I would have otherwise); solving the overheating and adding the regular audio-in would remove some of the deterrents against buying a TiBook.

I hope some people can post about their experiences with the new Powerbook G4 (DVI) with regard to overheating, fan noise and also the usual TiBook issues (key grunge rubbing off on the screen, case flexing, that kind of stuff) to see if anything else has been improved.
 
Is it confirmed that the springTi don´t use the Apollo chip (because Apollo does not support L3???)
In Norway we have 24% tax......(ultimate Power Book tops out on 4700$)
Im ordering a 667 with 512 (about 3300$), it would be nice living in the States, I also have to wait moore than 4 weeks to get it here. To bad, I want it now...











power mac G4-400MHz-PCI
 
Which Apollo

Originally posted by lunDisc
Is it confirmed that the springTi don´t use the Apollo chip (because Apollo does not support L3???)
In Norway we have 24% tax......(ultimate Power Book tops out on 4700$)
Im ordering a 667 with 512 (about 3300$), it would be nice living in the States, I also have to wait moore than 4 weeks to get it here. To bad, I want it now...

power mac G4-400MHz-PCI
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There are two different Apollo chips. Both are currently at 1Ghz, according to Motorola. These are the 7455 and 7445. The 7455 consumes more power, but has support for up to 2MB of L3 cache. The 7445 is more power consumption friendly and doesn't support a L3 cache.

This leads me to believe that the TiBook DVI are using 7455 Apollo chips.

Perhaps the 7445 will be used in the eventual G4 iBook.
 
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Originally posted by Rower_CPU


Hmmm. Seems there's a subtle flaw in your argument, unless I'm very much mistaken (which you will surely point out). In CA it looks as if the Use Tax is only applicable to the seller, not the buyer.
http://www.boe.ca.gov/sutax/sutprograms.htm

Or am I just completely off base again?
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The use tax, even in California, is by its very nature a tax on the consumer's right to consumer or use a product in that state. California's tax is set up so that retailers are required to collect the use tax owed by the consumer and then remit it to the state. I am not a Cali lawyer, so I'm not familiar with all of the intracacies (sp??) of thier laws, but I can say that there is a provision for an individual to pay use tax when products are bought overseas. I would assume a similar provision exists for products purchased out of state where no use or sales taxes are paid. I would suggest that you check with your state's revenue department.

As for the comment bu Matthe, "so, do you think we should pay taxes when we can avoid to do so? or do you believe in the justness of your profession?"

The Supreme Court has clearly said that you are under no obligation to set up transactions to pay the most tax possible. In fact, you are allowed by law to set up transactions in whatever lawful way you want to minimize your tax obligation.

That being said, if you do things that are illegal, and get caught, then you will pay a price (penalties and interest, plus the possibility of criminal action).

Best advice is pay the taxes you owe. Second best advice is make sure you have plenty of extra money and a good lawyer if you get caught. I can tell you the cost of lawyers, penalties and interest are way way way way way way more than any tax savings you might get. (As I have seen, even if your tax savings are huge).

Anyway, sorry for the side-discussion, but I wanted you all to know that when you buy stuff off the internet, that doesn't necessarily mean you are avoiding the obligation to pay tax.
 
Note: I'm not a California lawyer, so I can not, and will not provide advice re: California's tax laws. However, I can say that California's rules are different from many other states when it comes to interstate sales and the application of California's use tax.

http://www.boe.ca.gov/pdf/reg1620.pdf

Again, I suggest that if you have a question about the applicability of the tax, you contact the California Board of Equalization or whatever it is called.
 
my conversion is complete

I am typing this on my two year old Dell Inspiron 5000. Next week, I will be typing on my new 800MHz TiBook. It's been about 12 years since I bought my last Mac, and I can't tell you how good it feels to be an Apple man again. YeeHaww! Thank you Apple!!
 
Wise move on the switch, drewbam.

Sooner or later, you will become a true Macrumors forum poster :)

Isn't it great that whenever comes out with a really cool product (iMac G4, iPod, Powerbook G4) we get word of people switching? Makes me feel right at home, where there are at least five Macintosh computers and, interestingly enough, an old PC we never use!
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Any time is a great time for iPod.
 
I'm loving the new TiBook... now I just need to install all the software I need onto the new drive. I will be putting my 60GB TravelStar into an external enclosure next week (or when it arrives). With that, I will have a total of about 170GB of storage (both inside and outside the laptop).

I am really impressed with the crispness of the new TiBook's screen. All I need to do now, is give it the game test, after I put the 512MB of RAM into it (will yield me 768MB :D ).
 
New G4 PowerBook

I just purchased the 667 with DVD/CD drive (no burner) 3 weeks ago?
Now the 800's are out. What is the difference between my computer and the new 800?
I know about the resolution and the ability to hook up the flat displays - but what about speed?
I was very disappointed on how long it takes to start up my G4 vs. my old G3 Pismo PowerBook!!

Greg
 
Re: New G4 PowerBook

Originally posted by greg6028
I just purchased the 667 with DVD/CD drive (no burner) 3 weeks ago?
Now the 800's are out. What is the difference between my computer and the new 800?
I know about the resolution and the ability to hook up the flat displays - but what about speed?
I was very disappointed on how long it takes to start up my G4 vs. my old G3 Pismo PowerBook!!

Greg
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Get Pacifist, freeware to update prebinding to improve the speed of Mac OS X, and Macjanitor the file to run the nightly cleanup functions if you leave the machine overnight. By the way, if you purchased a new TiBook since December 2001 it should have a CD burner built-in but not DVD burner.

The new TiBook just released has a DVI port instead of VGA, a Sound in port instead of IrDa port, a 32 MB of DDR VRAM ATI 7500 card, instead of the old 16 MB of VRAM ATI card of the previous model, and more level 3 cache. It is able to do extended desktop to DVI, VGA, and ADC displays (Apple's current LCDs are all ADC only), whereas the old one could only do that to VGA displays, and it comes with a DVI-VGA adapter, but not a DVI-ADC adapter which is still a separate purchase. This is true of both the 667 Mhz and 800 Mhz models just released.
 
Rev A had a 8MB Mobile Rage video card, Rev B had a 16MB Mobile Radeon video card, and the Rev C has a 32MB Mobile Radeon 7500 video card. The Rev C display also supports 1280x854 resolution native. Both speed Rev C models use PC133 memory, where before either both, or one used PC100 memory.
 
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Originally posted by mcrain
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for violating the law. Try that defense out the next time you try to get out of an obscure traffic ticket.
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so if i were to pull onto a road that is say a 45 mph zone, and i think it's 55. so i'm going 55 and the cop pulls me over before i'd seen any signs that it was in fact a 55 zone. i am fairly certain that he'd at least consider letting you off.

and in the case of some sort of obstruction of a sign (or a sign down or something) as well. i know people who have been in such situations and have gotten out of the ticket.

it seems to me that the issues should be clearer regarding the use tax. not to say that people should not have to pay it, but it should be clearer if they do. in any case, i think that ignorance CAN be a legitimate reason for commiting a "crime", depending on the circumstance. (not necessarily tax related)
 
I was able to talk my way out of a ticket about a year and a half ago by being calm and understanding the cop's end of things. He let me off with a 'warning' and no ticket (or anything).

As for taxes, some merchants are willing to help you work around them. I am not going to name any, since I don't want to get any of them into hot water. Most of them are small stores that are willing to go the extra few steps to make the customer happy, and coming back.

As my father used to say, it is our god-given right to avoid paying as much/many taxes as possible. It's part of what this drove our fore-fathers to tell the Brit's where to shove it and to get the hell out. :D
 
is it ethical to avoid taxes?

OK, if you feel like you don't want to support our military yes there is something about the ethicalness of that, but other than our military our government gives us all these great support services:

1. libraries
2. the largest employer in the country.
3. education
4. public use land
5. weather forecasting
6. support for pilots flying in bad weather and at night, as well as in
visual weather conditions
7. infrastructure of interstate highways.
8. infrastructure of railroads
9. major financial supporter of our mail service which still is the cheapest in the world.
10. environmental cleanup efforts that reclaim land.
11. emergency rescue from natural disasters.

If you stopped paying taxes, eventually you'd be leading to an eradication of all these useful services and much more. You may not see the government every day, but it is there when you are in need. Now if you think we should be taxed differently that's a whole different story. But the money must come from somewhere.
 
If someone with a new TiBook would be so kind as to run PPC Checker available at xlr8yourmac, it will indicate which CPU is in it.

The software returns the PVR code that Motorola posts on their site.

7455, Apollo 6 2.1 0x80010201

If the code begins 0x8000, it's the Vger, aka 7450/1.
 
Here is what I got off my 800MHz TiBook... I am in OS X now, and it launched into classic mode...
 

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So, Alpha, what have you noticed about the differences between the B and C models, now that you've had it awhile?

Graphics, heat, performance, etc.
 
Rower_CPU, actually, I was on a rev a before... Speed is greatly enhanced on the rev c model... When I fired up classic mode, it came up in less then half the time that it did on the rev a. I would even say it's faster then the G4 733 tower I have at work (pre-Quicksilver).

I do know that the new model is silent, except when both fans are running, when just one is spinning, it can barely be heard. I will be performing another UT test later. I have never tried to get a fps count in UT, so I'm not 100% sure where to enable that feature. I will be doing some scanning over the weekend (booting into OS 9 to do that) and I will let you know how it compares to how my G4 500 tower performed.

All in all, it screams compared to the 500MHz that I had before, and the display is vastly improved (brighter, cleaner, clearer).

One sweeeet laptop :D worth the money.
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
I was afraid of that. ;)

Maybe I can start making donations at the sperm bank to start raising some dough...:rolleyes:
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LMAO!!

Don't forget the blood bank too... If you have a rare blood type, you might be able to get more that way. Personally, I like to keep the red stuff inside me as much as possible. The white stuff, well, as long as she wants it... 'nuf said :D

I got my TiBook from the Computer Loft (www.computerloft.com). They took my 500MHz rev. a in trade towards this one, which made it a hellofalot easier to do. Contact them and see what you can get for your current system. You might be on your way to the new one faster then you thought. :D
 
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