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83-Year Old Suing Apple After Walking into Glass Doors at Retail Store

you go GRANNY!!!!




however at 83 years old I don't know if she will be able to enjoy the million.



In all honesty these type of things make me sick....I can't stand lawyers.
 
arn said:
I'm not saying it is or it isn't in this case. I'm just saying (abstractly) that if it happens enough, it becomes a design issue, not a stupidity issue.

arn
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And that's what I'm (partially) disagreeing with -- even if it happens a lot, it's not always a design issue. Mistakes happen. People get careless. Is a hot oven a design issue? How about hot food? People burn themselves all the time (myself included) by not loosely observing the law of cooling. I wouldn't call that a design issue, but perhaps that's just me.
 
arn said:
But see, I don't think it's necessarily a matter of stupidity. It's a matter of engineering and user interface, which Apple should be sensitive too.

That woman who sued McDonald's over the hot coffee. She burned herself severely. Was she stupid?...
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Yes, she was stupid for putting a hot (non-rigid) cup of coffee in her lap while driving.

McDonalds was also stupid for making the coffee that hot (and deserve the fine), but who the $#@! in their right mind drives with a crushable cup in their lap and NOT expect it to spill?

...How many people are going to crash into Apple doors this year? Just 1 or 2? Ok, maybe that's just negligence on the part of the people walking, and they should pay more attention. Is the number closer to 100? 1000? At some point it becomes a design issue, and not a stupidity issue.

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I'm reminded of a quote that may be by the late Douglas Adams that goes something like:
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."

The only way to prevent people from walking into glass doors is to basically ban clear doors. Even then, you'll have some dumb@ss reading something or looking somewhere else and walk into the door.

The next thing you'll see is some idiot bump their heads in the glass displays and sue claiming the glass was so clear that they didn't realize where it was. So then we ban glass displays that are too clean?

Where does it stop?

I'm sick and tired of this "nanny state" mentality where you have to go out of your way to make absolutely certain that the most inept people on the face of the earth can't possibly do something dumb to hurt themselves.
 
Vorpal279 said:
If this doesn't show that we need tort reform in America, I don't know what does.
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This is hardly an example of the need for tort reform. The mother suing New York for $900 trillion, maybe, but this, no. She's only asking for $1 million, an amount likely less than the punitive damage maximum that would be set by tort reform.
 
Goldenbear said:
Yes, she was stupid for putting a hot (non-rigid) cup of coffee in her lap while driving.

McDonalds was also stupid for making the coffee that hot (and deserve the fine), but who the $#@! in their right mind drives with a crushable cup in their lap and NOT expect it to spill?
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Except she didn't do that. That was the urban myth portion of the lawsuit.

arn
 
MH01 said:
Ahhh bless the MR fanboys!

Taking the $$$$ and the fact its Apple out of the equation a 83 year old broke their nose, do you guys think that is bad??
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No, not especially. I've run into things before. Relatives have run into things before. None of us felt the need to sue.

If this was my relative I'd *possibly* feel slightly sorry for them, but I would not encourage or be happy for them to take it out on the store, let alone to seek a lawyer.

And no, I don't believe people should be taking this out on the lawyer as opposed to her. She's the one that a) hit the wall and b) is taking Apple to court.
 
This is ridiculous. Just because you are 83, and obviously senile, doesn't give you the right to sue a business when you hurt yourself there. Oh I ran into a glass door with enough force to break my nose! Not only am I going to sue for the $75K "medical" bill, which probably had a face lift included with the nose job, I am also going to demand a million on top of it!? I hope that this makes it before a judge, and that judge recommends that she be placed in a home for the senile and greedy.

I bet she is the type that is always trying to work the angle of "… so can I sue them because I…?". I hate that type of person, they make America look bad, and greedy.
 
Millionaire2K said:
The fact that Apple put stickers on the windows shows they know there is a problem. (At least their lawyers do). Not everyone can be as smart as Apple fans. So if the doors are hard to see for 80+ citizens they need to be changed.

I feel the amount she is asking is WAAAAYYYY high. But the case is a ok. She will get an out of court settlement.

No lawyer will sue a rich company for only $1000. You always go big and let the judge set the number.
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Not sure why so many down votes for such a valid point. Oh wait, now I see it. Probably should have left out the sarcastic remark about us Apple fans.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I hope she wins a fair amount, but $1 million is a bit idiotic.
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Vorpal279 said:
I know all about it, I've read all the articles and it still comes down to it being her fault that she spilled her own coffee. No more on this subject.
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Coffee should not be so hot that you need to wear protective clothing in case it spills...

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Goldenbear said:
Yes, she was stupid for putting a hot (non-rigid) cup of coffee in her lap while driving.

McDonalds was also stupid for making the coffee that hot (and deserve the fine), but who the $#@! in their right mind drives with a crushable cup in their lap and NOT expect it to spill?



I'm reminded of a quote that may be by the late Douglas Adams that goes something like:
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."

The only way to prevent people from walking into glass doors is to basically ban clear doors. Even then, you'll have some dumb@ss reading something or looking somewhere else and walk into the door.

The next thing you'll see is some idiot bump their heads in the glass displays and sue claiming the glass was so clear that they didn't realize where it was. So then we ban glass displays that are too clean?

Where does it stop?

I'm sick and tired of this "nanny state" mentality where you have to go out of your way to make absolutely certain that the most inept people on the face of the earth can't possibly do something dumb to hurt themselves.
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She wasn't driving. She was an elderly woman. You need to learn the whole story and, more importantl, see the pictures.
 
She would have done better if she'd run into the glass wall. She obviously saw well enough to aim for the glass door, she simply neglected to open it.
 
HiRez said:
It's bogus, but not worth the PR headache for Apple, probably. Bringing your corporate firepower to bear on 83 year old women never looks good.
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But wouldn't it be a bad example for other thousands of other granny's who would be so attracted to the glassed doors, fallowing her lead on this type of fraud?
 
InuNacho said:
I've never actually noticed those little stripped things on the outside of Apple Stores so I can fully understand why she is suing. Make those little strips a bar and problems like this won't happen.

Honestly I believe she should win if it changes what could potentially harm people. Older people with questionable eyesight and big panes of glass behind seems like a legitimate safety concern to me.
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You sound like someone that would pass a lot of bylaws in Ontario, Canada.
 
Imahottguy said:
This is ridiculous. Just because you are 83, and obviously senile, doesn't give you the right to sue a business when you hurt yourself there. Oh I ran into a glass door with enough force to break my nose! Not only am I going to sue for the $75K "medical" bill, which probably had a face lift included with the nose job, I am also going to demand a million on top of it!? I hope that this makes it before a judge, and that judge recommends that she be placed in a home for the senile and greedy.

I bet she is the type that is always trying to work the angle of "… so can I sue them because I…?". I hate that type of person, they make America look bad, and greedy.
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Or maybe she's just giving Apple a taste of their own medicine?
 
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