Seconding this. I went so far as flashing another card to get some more intensive stuff done.
Then again, I put aftermarket CPUs into my Pro, I'm hardly the norm when it comes to being... patient.
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8800GT - Response from Steve Jobs
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Seconding this. I went so far as flashing another card to get some more intensive stuff done.
Then again, I put aftermarket CPUs into my Pro, I'm hardly the norm when it comes to being... patient.
I must admit, I'm actually pretty peeved about this. I'm on my 3rd ATI card in my Mac Pro and was really looking forward to this upgrade. One of the main reasons I bought the Mac Pro was upgradeability and that rug seems to have been pulled out from under my feet.
This is a sad state of affairs and actually makes me want to build another PC now. I had become a pretty avid Mac evangelist too. An official statement from Apple on this would sure be nice.
This is a sad state of affairs and actually makes me want to build another PC now. I had become a pretty avid Mac evangelist too. An official statement from Apple on this would sure be nice.
I wouldn't expect one. As I recall, though, you MAY have a slight glimmer of hope. Wasn't the 1900 released at a later date as an optional upgrade for the G5 Powermacs?
I'm in the same boat here. My MacPro will last as is for awhile but not as long as I expected. Once it is time to replace it, I'll be building a PC. There's no malice behind that choice, just a matter of practicality. The MacPro was supposed to be a 5-year machine, but it's not going to make it. The initial cost plus upgrades over five years was a good value. Now, not so much. If I want that kind of value, I have to go PC.
Cheaper than the Dell initially...over the log run, much more expensive.
True story. You are not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition. "Where are you going to", "Do you know where my hat is at?" and "It is being worked on" are improper sentences
Those are all very disappointing, yes but you were only able to come up with 3 things, all of which are not really horrible. If Apple took 5 years to update their OS then packaged it in a multitude of confusing editions, now that would be disappointing. In the grand scheme of the technology market, Apple has have very few cock ups. Have they been less than kind to their customers? Yes, but we all have to remember that they are a company run by mere mortals.
True story. You are not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition. "Where are you going to", "Do you know where my hat is at?" and "It is being worked on" are improper sentences
That's actually a complete myth in the same way that people say you shouldn't split an infinitive. There are NO grammatical rules that stop you from doing either and most of the eminent grammarians have said it's utter nonsense to suggest that you can't.
Google "ending a sentence with a preposition", and you'll find that practically every page listed supports the view that it's a mistaken belief. In the words of Winston Churchill, demonstrating how ridiculous it can be to try to always obey this rule, "This is the sort of English up with which I will not put."
Sorry for that little interlude. In my youth, I taught high school English for a number of years
That's actually a complete myth in the same way that people say you shouldn't split an infinitive. There are NO grammatical rules that stop you from doing either and most of the eminent grammarians have said it's utter nonsense to suggest that you can't.
Google "ending a sentence with a preposition", and you'll find that practically every page listed supports the view that it's a mistaken belief. In the words of Winston Churchill, demonstrating how ridiculous it can be to try to always obey this rule, "This is the sort of English up with which I will not put."
Sorry for that little interlude. In my youth, I taught high school English for a number of years
I enjoyed that.
That's great news (long may it last)
Now cue in the bitching about why the soon to be released 9800 series won't be made available for the Mac.
Fabulous news. From the Engadget article, for those who haven't seen it:
What I'd love to know: is this down to pressure from Apple, or is it Nvidia responding themselves to the demand that they've obviously seen in the past few days? Furthermore, since Apple almost certainly had to be aware of this, why didn't they have the simple decency to provide a press release, a response or indeed any communication whatsoever about this?
What I'd love to know: is this down to pressure from Apple, or is it Nvidia responding themselves to the demand that they've obviously seen in the past few days? Furthermore, since Apple almost certainly had to be aware of this, why didn't they have the simple decency to provide a press release, a response or indeed any communication whatsoever about this?
It is odd that they couldn't have given us a little information. The word I got from Apple yesterday was that they had "no intention" of making the card compatible with older Mac Pros. It took an article on engadget to get the attention of a PR guy from nVidia for us to finally get some straightforward information. I am happy as can be about the information, and I sure hope it pans out, but couldn't Apple just let us know what was happening? They knew about this group of very upset Mac Pro owners, and we made every attempt to get an explanation from them and they offered absolutely nothing.
That's actually a complete myth in the same way that people say you shouldn't split an infinitive. There are NO grammatical rules that stop you from doing either and most of the eminent grammarians have said it's utter nonsense to suggest that you can't.
Google "ending a sentence with a preposition", and you'll find that practically every page listed supports the view that it's a mistaken belief. In the words of Winston Churchill, demonstrating how ridiculous it can be to try to always obey this rule, "This is the sort of English up with which I will not put."
Sorry for that little interlude. In my youth, I taught high school English for a number of years
Thank you, this is music to a Grammar-Nazi's ears - mine
Or perhaps they were planning it all along, seeing as including the Geforce 8800GT was a last minute decision.
Its not a secret Apple uses the videocard handicap to get people to buy new Macs. They have done it for decades.
And that's why they released the 1900 for the G5s, and are releasing the 8800 for the older mac pros?
After quite a bit of delay for the g5. But they seem to be getting better at it. I like it when they say 8800gt type upgrade. hehe i like reading between the lines.
Djeez man looks like you've been living your life to much on fora. Why should a newbie post be usually false? As for as far as i can see now post of forum veterans are usually filled with arrogance instead of useful information.
Did you know that most people have lives? Most people read macrumours but never feel a need to register. A lot of them are more familiar with Apple and it's products then all those forum veterans whom are mostly only familiar with Apple from reading rumours.
Edit : oh look i'm a newbie too so consider my claims to be false!
I sent an email to Steve several years ago, he or his staff replied. He was very tact in the reply.
I'm sure he gets flamed a lot in emails, hell I'm no steve jobs I get flamed every day, I get about 1000 mails a day at work. Not think what he must go through.
I'm sure he gets flamed a lot in emails, hell I'm no steve jobs I get flamed every day, I get about 1000 mails a day at work. Not think what he must go through.
That's actually a complete myth in the same way that people say you shouldn't split an infinitive. There are NO grammatical rules that stop you from doing either and most of the eminent grammarians have said it's utter nonsense to suggest that you can't.
Google "ending a sentence with a preposition", and you'll find that practically every page listed supports the view that it's a mistaken belief. In the words of Winston Churchill, demonstrating how ridiculous it can be to try to always obey this rule, "This is the sort of English up with which I will not put."
Sorry for that little interlude. In my youth, I taught high school English for a number of years
Actually, because of the point of grammar is no longer to purely ensure effective and standardized routes of communication, one should also follow the rule to not end a sentence with a preposition.
The issue is, simply, that most people think you shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition; therefore, if you do and someone notices, you'll be judged on your improper grammar regardless of whether it is in fact correct or not. Seeing as how grammar and mechanics now are factors that people use to judge your supposed education and intelligence, it is best to conform to popular perceptions of what is grammatical correct and what is not.
Smart people will continue to avoid prepositions at the end of a sentence because they know to use grammar to maximize perceptions of their intelligence and being right in this case is counterproductive.
Actually, the higher you get in a company the more time you have on your hands. How's that you might ask? Well, people like Steve get paid for thinking and their physical presence; they don't run around trying to do everything. I imagine he has a large group of assistants and product managers that actually do the physical work and then report back to him.
In my last profession, I worked my way up to an executive position in a company and was managing 4 different stores. I had a dozen managers under me and my only job was to keep an eye on what they were doing, come up with new ideas, and give final say-so on decisions. Believe it or not, I actually got bored and sometimes had nothing to do. Based on that, I could definitely see Steve sitting in his Limo reading and answering email.