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I actually think the Wifi is improved, but I may be wrong. I agree that the Air 2 is probably a better buy for the average user, but I don't think your average user (mom, grandma, etc.), but if you're buying the Pro I believe it's because you need/want what it offers (better screen and Apple Pencil). I don't think 2GB of RAM is going to make or break a device that fits one's needs.

I think Apple should have put 4GB of RAM in there, but I really don't see major innovations taking real advantage of it in a way that obsoletes a 2GB device in the near future, but I could be wrong.

The tech spec pages on the Apple site say the same about WiFi and Bluetooth for Air2 and both Pros: Wi‑Fi (802.11a/b/g/n/ac); dual channel (2.4GHz and 5GHz); HT80 with MIMO; Bluetooth 4.2 technology. The descriptions of cellular capabilities also look same, at least I didn't find the difference, Lightning also has to be similar for Air2/9,7 Pro.

As for the rest, if someone needs a tablet for drawing, wants a better screen and doesn't want 12,9" one, the newest model is the choice and nothing else matters. I'm not an artist and have serious doubts about it's useful lifespan, so I'll probably wait.
 
What you're saying is that you just want to brag about specs all day and don't care about how something actually performs in day to day life. You're the guy that buys a car based on specs but won't race because you know that people with slower cars can smoke you all day long.

I hope you're not referring to me, because that's not what I'm saying.. and I'm not "that guy".. at all.
 
As for the rest, if someone needs a tablet for drawing, wants a better screen and doesn't want 12,9" one, the newest model is the choice and nothing else matters. I'm not an artist and have serious doubts about it's useful lifespan, so I'll probably wait.

I am curious what you think is going to happen that will happen that will diminish its useful lifespan? It has the best specs of any iPad except for the niche 13" device. I'm not arguing, just curious.
 
2GB RAM is great for a current iPhone; not so much a new iPad.

The raised prices make the 9.7" iPad Pro even less attractive compared to the iPad Air 2; even coming from an iPad 4 or iPad Air. If you've waited this long, wait until at least the fall announcements to make a decision.

This is a spec that is going to become a noticeable problem on iPads in just a couple years. If you don't mind that you'll need an upgrade in a couple years and if you don't expect the apps you use to change much over the years and you don't mind paying the premium, then sure, it's a good iPad.

Very reminiscent of the iPad Mini 3 retaining nearly all the Mini 2 hardware with only change being Touch ID.

Concerned to see a repeat of the "new iPad" release cycle during the Retina screen transition.
 
Just my opinion and I know it is different from many others, but who really cares about iPads?? I've just never found them to be very useful. Have tried a few different models over the years. They're just huge phones that you can't do anything productive on. When you try it's far more cumbersome than just using an actual computer. Personally, I'd much rather have a rMB or rMBP over any iPad. Looking forward to the upcoming Mac updates! The second gen rMB will likely serve my needs very nicely while being far more functional than any iPad could ever dream of being.

And I'm a 4" iPhone fan, so I'll be ordering an SE tomorrow. 2 GB RAM sealed the deal for me.
 
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The name is the reason they tacked on more money, so I do not believe it is reading too much into it.

I'm upgrading from my riPadMini because this iPad is a good upgrade, and I want to move back to the 9.7 inch screen. I don't care if they call it an iPad Pro, iPad Air 3, an iPad Pond Water. The name is just a name.
 
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The SE came out 6 months later than the iPhone 6s.

Will you say the same thing when the iPhone 7 comes out because it'll make the iPhone 6s not the fastest phone anymore?

No. Technology advances. Besides, there's no reason for the 4" iPhone to have crippled specs. Smaller size shouldn't mean slower phone.

I'm on Mexico City, the iphone 6s was available for sale October 9th 2015 that's 5 months, ok do you prefer 6? i'll give you 6 months then. 1 year is more or less acceptable we all know technology advances, less than 6 months is a middle finger for many of us....

My guess? they are not selling as many iphone 6s as they were planning so...the solution? using the same parts for a cheaper iphone and there you go, they will be selling more phones but sorry for the iphone 6s owners who paid more upssss....but this is Apple right? sigh...

I don't give a penny about the iphone 7, i'm not playing Apple's game anymore at least not the iphone's game...
Anyway good luck with the iphones 7 sales though.....i see less people buying it...
 
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I am curious what you think is going to happen that will happen that will diminish its useful lifespan? It has the best specs of any iPad except for the niche 13" device. I'm not arguing, just curious.

The RAM size that will be not enough for the new iOS to be a pleasant user experience, probably very soon after Air2 faces the same fate. For me iPad is mostly an expnsive toy, and I don't want it to become slow after a year or so.

For the one who will use it for some professional stuff it will be, probably, less critical; it has the chance to justify the expense by the time it becomes obsolete. I expect very little professional usage of an iPad for myself (an average 2-4 years old laptop is fine for _my_ work needs, but iPads are nowhere there), so the only justification of the tablet cost for me will be it's ability to provide me "communicator, player and browser" functions as long as possible without becoming non responsive/glitchy/etc.
 
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I'm upgrading from my riPadMini because this iPad is a good upgrade, and I want to move back to the 9.7 inch screen. I don't care if they call it an iPad Pro, iPad Air 3, an iPad Pond Water. The name is just a name.

You just made the point. It's just a name and they are starting out 100.00 more than prior ipads this size........because of the name.
 
2gb in the iPad Pro 9.7" is a major disappointment, was not expecting it with the increased price. Guess this makes my decision clear- will get the second generation 12.9" iPad Pro. The second generation 12.9" will def. have usb 3.0 because the first one did, will get all the camera and screen improvements as the 9.7" Pro, 4gb ram because its predecessor did, and a blazing fast A10x chip, which is just 6 months away.

And maybe, a 50% shot that the second gen 12.9" pro gets 3d Touch, that would be the cherry on top.
 
I always laugh at those foolish enough (read: most of the internet) to give into the temptation of the short-sightedness which is to be making knee-jerk reactions to new Apple products, without even using them for more than 5 mins at a demo table, let alone having them in daily use for AT LEAST 2 months (any "reviewer" who does so for less time may safely have their opinions dismissed.) Over the years, SO many Apple products have been released, and not a moment after the new product name has been uttered on stage, some unknown entity goofball is mocking and "predicting its demise" whilst spewing utterly unprovable FUD on some blog or click-bait YouTube video. Over the next few weeks, this FUD is then blindly taken as "fact", parroted by the masses, then another hundred or so copy-cat FUD-meisters jump on the click-bait bandwagon and slightly re-spin the FUD, mixing in a bit of their own (of course without stopping to parse said FUD for rationale, logic and common sense), throwing it into the hopper and then spitting out a re-hashed FUD sausage at the other end of the nonsense mincer.

I have heard the SE being mocked as the "Teeny tiny iPhone" (or ridiculously obvious "jokes" (<token laughter>: "Ha ha, you so funny!" </token laughter> to that effect), etc, it's tiresomely inane and predictable really. Funny how the SE size was just "iPhone" up until 2014, and now we've all become enamoured with GIANT iPhones (which I won't deny I would like), suddenly everyone peers down their noses at a standard sized iPhone as if it were the subject of a comedy skit, "bless it's heart, dear little thing". Hey, if you've got enough dough to splurge it around like candy at a kid's party, and want to buy the larger models just for the sake of it, no one has any say in your choice, but are you really going to make an idiot of yourself by telling us the re-designed pre-6 range is a "toy iPhone"? It's better to choose by what FITS YOUR PHYSICAL DIMENSIONS (HEY, OR NEEDS - IT'S A GREAT FEELING HAVING FREE WILL, I CAN MIX AND MATCH NEEDS AND WANTS, AND NO ONE CAN SAY DIDDLY SQUAT ABOUT IT), really... Couldn't we equally, if going plainly on the perspective of size, call your 6S+ a "Skateboard iPhone"? Naturally, we'd be within our rational right to do so, if every person on the planet were so dumb as to go by size as the ONLY deciding factor, off-hand dismissing ANYONE who didn't align their choice with ours, assuming that everyone thinks along the lines (but will never have the courage to admit it) to follow the thought process, thus: "Big is new >> big is therefore best, as it's new >> big is best >> everything else is rubbish >> you have less than 4.7 inches? Haha - 'toy iPhone' "

I have size 13 feet - do I walk around mocking men who have size 8 feet? Yes, I am 6'5", 22 stone, VERY large, and I'll be buying iPhone SE as soon as it is released. You may now laugh, and I'll laugh right back at you for your stupidity in labelling a product or person's choice of said product, based on dimensions. It's a superb phone, and it's quite simple - buy what you LIKE, not what other people like you to like.
 
2gb in the iPad Pro 9.7" is a major disappointment, was not expecting it with the increased price. Guess this makes my decision clear- will get the second generation 12.9" iPad Pro. The second generation 12.9" will def. have usb 3.0 because the first one did, will get all the camera and screen improvements as the 9.7" Pro, 4gb ram because its predecessor did, and a blazing fast A10x chip, which is just 6 months away.

And maybe, a 50% shot that the second gen 12.9" pro gets 3d Touch, that would be the cherry on top.

And you'll get fast charging from the new USB-C to lightning cable with the 29w USB-C power adapter, which isn't supported on the 9.7 pro
 
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The primary issue with 2GB RAM on the iPad Pro is longtivity. How long until the RAM becomes detrimental to the iPad experience?

My kid is still using our iPad 2 (512MB RAM) for his school work (done on apps). We still take it on road trips so he can watch movies and play games. It's no longer as snappy as it was when I first purchased it, but it's still a great device to have on the coffee table when you need to use the browser or YouTube and such.

The iPad Pro 10" should last years, easily. iOS is not that heavy.
 
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After reading this, I returned my brand new iPad Pro 12.9 32GB that I just picked up yesterday to bestbuy, then I paid more $100 to get a 128GB version ( Bestbuy matched price on Staples.com). I felt comfortable about iPad Pro 12.9", so I go from 32GB to 128GB.

Although the big Pro is les portable than the 9.7", but it does not matter. I still have my iPad Air 2 128GB LTE, so I will still have 9.7" portability and LTE connection when I go out.

Any iPad Pro 12.9" owners still have iPad Air 2?
 
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Lol. I guess I wasn't clear. An SE for my son. Wife seems to want one too to replace her 6s. Part of me wonders if she should just get this and the boy can receive the 6s. Won't matter to him what he gets lol.

Gracious answer. Lovely.
 
Most users probably wouldn't notice it if they put the internals of the ipad air 2 in it and sold it at the same price as now. Does that mean they should? If they call it a pro and up the price it should at least have the ram of the pro ipad and not the cheapest iphone.
It's a Pro because it supports the Pencil and Smart Keyboard, abd has an upgraded screen and speakers. It also has the same amount of RAM as the most expensive iPhone.
 
Wow. I'm going to keep my iPad Air 2 longer as I have the big brother iPad Pro. I hope to see testing stats soon.
 
So it's really just an iPad Air 3?
Edit - Okay, SE is sounding like a really good deal now. Better battery, better performance and didn't cheap out on RAM.

The Pro is defined by its Pencil and keyboard compatibility, not its RAM. So no, it's not "just" an iPad Air 3. On the flip side, I doubt there will ever be an iPad Air 3, so it is a successor in that sense. I suspect they will eventually pare the line down to Mini and Pro (in 2 sizes).
 
My Air 2 runs pretty good on 2GB RAM so I don't see this being a huge problem but why call it a "Pro" if you're holding stuff back. First we get the news that 9.7 Pro will be limited to USB 2 transfer speeds and now we're seeing it has half the RAM. Makes up for it though with superior cameras and a TrueTone screen...

Maybe they should have just called it the Air 3 as to not get it confused with the "real" iPad Pro. Just a thought.

the camera is useless. I used to say that they should get rid of the rear camera and drop the price $50-$100. Now I wish they would drop it just to get rear of the protruding less. I'd pay more for no rear camera. The true tone screen seems cool though.
 
I can't ( but I really can ) believe they only put 2GB of RAM in the 9.7 iPad Pro. Guess I'll wait for the second gen 12.9 Pro. I really want the True Tone display.
 
It's a Pro because it supports the Pencil and Smart Keyboard, abd has an upgraded screen and speakers. It also has the same amount of RAM as the most expensive iPhone.

It also has the ram of the entry iphone and not the pro ipad. Like I said in another post, you are saying its a pro because you can spend more money. Not because the ipad itself Is like the ipad pro 12. Raising the price because you can spend money and buy more stuff is ridiculous. If the pen was included I would be more likely to agree.

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