LOL for that price of COURSE they are gonna pull a new ipad air 3 in 6 months with the same specs as the new ipad pro 9.7 but with more RAM and cheaper.....you'll see...
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9.7-inch iPad Pro and iPhone SE Both Have 2GB RAM
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LOL for that price of COURSE they are gonna pull a new ipad air 3 in 6 months with the same specs as the new ipad pro 9.7 but with more RAM and cheaper.....you'll see...
I think few of us really imply that the performance will be horrible NOW, it will be very good at least for a casual user/consumer. But many of us (those unhappy with 2 GB RAM) are afraid that these new devices, that didn't even star to sell yet, will begin "choking" after exactly the same iOS upgrade that will prove "too heavy" for your venerable iPad Air2 once in the future, after having much shorter useful life than your device.
Not to say your device cost somewhat less for the comparable configuration when it was a new model and is even cheaper now, therefore probably still is a better purchase for those who don't need a pencil and a new keyboard, just want an iOS tablet. RAM the same, bluetooth and WiFi the same. I don't really think that the difference in performance between A8X and A9X will be the thing that will seriously affect the average user experience or will make new 9.7's "retire" much later than your Air2 (though of course I may be wrong).
USB2, camera bump on a _tablet_ (don't really care about it on my iPhone6S Plus) and that shameful marketing babbling about Win PC users going to switch to this "Pro" "future of personal computers" are additional cherries on top of the cake of our impressions.
No for that price. for that price $$$ you are paying for a "pro" one believe it or not, the ipad air 3 will be coming later this year and cheaper youll see...
The primary issue with 2GB RAM on the iPad Pro is longtivity. How long until the RAM becomes detrimental to the iPad experience?
Its not hard to see this device start to struggle to keep up with memory intensive, Pro apps as 4GB will be established in the larger model in 2 short years.
I haven't read the updated rules for apps, but if an app is allowed to use 2-4 GB on the 12.9" iPad, then developers are going to want to push for Pro apps that use every bit of it. Especially with CPU power closing in on Intel Skylake and GPU power creeping up on consoles and mid-range PCs.
Scenario #1: We have an App Store where some apps run only on the 12.9" iPad Pro and others run on both Pro devices
Scenario #2: Apple restricts apps to 1GB in order to prevent app disparity across Pro devices.
The term "Pro" really over sells the 9.7" iPad Pro. It'll be a great tablet for sure, but it's been designed to encourage upgrades sooner rather than later.
I encourage people to hold off, spend a little more for the 12.9", or save a bit and get an Air 2 to hold you off for a model more deserving of the "Pro" name.
Its not hard to see this device start to struggle to keep up with memory intensive, Pro apps as 4GB will be established in the larger model in 2 short years.
I haven't read the updated rules for apps, but if an app is allowed to use 2-4 GB on the 12.9" iPad, then developers are going to want to push for Pro apps that use every bit of it. Especially with CPU power closing in on Intel Skylake and GPU power creeping up on consoles and mid-range PCs.
Scenario #1: We have an App Store where some apps run only on the 12.9" iPad Pro and others run on both Pro devices
Scenario #2: Apple restricts apps to 1GB in order to prevent app disparity across Pro devices.
The term "Pro" really over sells the 9.7" iPad Pro. It'll be a great tablet for sure, but it's been designed to encourage upgrades sooner rather than later.
I encourage people to hold off, spend a little more for the 12.9", or save a bit and get an Air 2 to hold you off for a model more deserving of the "Pro" name.
With all due respect pretty much FY Apple.
I spent a fortune on an iphone 6s last November, my first iphone after 2 galaxies and now this? a cheaper phone after only 4 months with the same specs and smaller?
Really guys unless the future iphones are UBER special i'm not planning to expend my hard earn money on a product like this ever...
And for those of you who have not decided about buying the new expensive ipad pro 9,7 i won't suggest you to do it, just wait a couple of months and get the new ipad air 3 with the same specs but cheaper..you'll see...Don't be a sucker like me....sigh..
and yeah FY Apple again, middle finger for U2.
Yeah no surprise...2GB should be the absolute minimum for any iOS device with iOS 9 specially.
My 14 months old iPad Mini 2 Retina is so slow and laggy nowadays,just annoying to use sadly due to stupid 1GB Ram they put into it.
My 14 months old iPad Mini 2 Retina is so slow and laggy nowadays,just annoying to use sadly due to stupid 1GB Ram they put into it.
Well i read the same you are posting the day before yesterday but yesterday i read the opposite about Apple not killing the air series yet...
Anyways the same was told about the ipod touch, that it was dead and blah blah blah and there you go we got a brand new ipod touch 6 last year.
Exactly this. There is nothing wrong with 2GB RAM right now. But that memory amount means that this device will become sluggish and iOS upgrade ineligible in the same year as all the other 2GB devices, devices that had 1.5+ year longer lifespans. It makes this "pro" device a comparatively poorer deal despite costing more. But maybe the pros expect to replace their devices more often, written off as a business expense?
Honestly, I'd be OK with your information being correct as not everyone wants a 'pro' iPad. As always, we'll see...
Yeah, I was considering selling my Air 2 to upgrade right away, but without the RAM boost I'm less motivated. Maybe mid-cycle when the prices dip.
Honestly, I bought my first iPad to do really awesome creative things with it (which I have.. and I know I'll do more cool stuff with it the future), but a lot of the time I just use it to further enable my laziness. This isn't the iPad's fault, but it's so darn easy for me to stay in bed with it and browse the web.. check emails.. watch movies, etc. It's gotten to the point where, unless I'm using it for something productive, I feel like I need to start having designated iPad times!
What exactly do you suggest people focus on besides the specs? There is nothing but specs to focus on. People care about specs because they actually mean something and translate to real world results. Also, being annoyed with there being no RAM upgrade is a lot more understandable than the camera bump / flat surface drama.. but that's just my opinion.
If you've got an Air 1 or older model, this is a decent upgrade. But I'm not convinced I'll see a significant boost in performance from my Air 2 when using apps that utilize the iPad's resources to its fullest. Those extra 2GBs of RAM would've really come in handy.
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I actually think the Wifi is improved, but I may be wrong. I agree that the Air 2 is probably a better buy for the average user, but I don't think your average user (mom, grandma, etc.), but if you're buying the Pro I believe it's because you need/want what it offers (better screen and Apple Pencil). I don't think 2GB of RAM is going to make or break a device that fits one's needs.
I think Apple should have put 4GB of RAM in there, but I really don't see major innovations taking real advantage of it in a way that obsoletes a 2GB device in the near future, but I could be wrong.
I've cashed out enough that even if it lost all its value today I'd still be millions ahead.
I know RAM is important, but i dont think thats a wise choice to buy or not to buy Appe product.
Dont we have seen that half RAM on iPhone 6S is enough to crush Galaxy S7 on speedtest (on youtube)
Bigger RAM is always good but we buy a whole system, which is in Apple ecosystem i believe RAM has been optimized higher than other competitor (Android, Windows etc).
Dont we have seen that half RAM on iPhone 6S is enough to crush Galaxy S7 on speedtest (on youtube)
Bigger RAM is always good but we buy a whole system, which is in Apple ecosystem i believe RAM has been optimized higher than other competitor (Android, Windows etc).
The SE came out 6 months later than the iPhone 6s.
Will you say the same thing when the iPhone 7 comes out because it'll make the iPhone 6s not the fastest phone anymore?
No. Technology advances. Besides, there's no reason for the 4" iPhone to have crippled specs. Smaller size shouldn't mean slower phone.
That article is so click bait headline that it made the MacRumors writers jealous.
They fail to make any type of compelling argument and fail to notice that Apple still made over $7 billion in profit on the iPad in the last quarter. Yes it's down from $8 billion but that's still more profit than most companies will make in 10 years and they did it on a single product line in a single quarter. But yeah, the iPad is dead. Just a silly $7 billion means it's on deaths doorstep and will be killed after this one.
The article also fails to recognize that the tablet market as a whole is hurting. It's not only Apple, it's everyone. People don't upgrade tablets every year like they do phones. They get one and they're good for a good while. People with iPad 3 are just now looking to upgrade and those came out in 2012. It's not a product with a short refresh cycle.
Great news for the iPhone SE! It should give solid performance for years to come and at that price you can't go wrong if you want a smaller phone.
iPad Pro only getting 2 GB is kind of a let down. Given that they matched or improved on everything else on the 12.9" Pro I thought it would get 4 GB too, or at worst 3 GB. Given that you can get the 64 GB Air 2 model for $100 less than the 32 GB Pro unless you really want Apple Pencil and Keyboard support via the smart connector the Air 2 seems like the smarter purchase (the A8X is still a really solid chip and I don't think most people would notice the difference in performance).
iPad Pro only getting 2 GB is kind of a let down. Given that they matched or improved on everything else on the 12.9" Pro I thought it would get 4 GB too, or at worst 3 GB. Given that you can get the 64 GB Air 2 model for $100 less than the 32 GB Pro unless you really want Apple Pencil and Keyboard support via the smart connector the Air 2 seems like the smarter purchase (the A8X is still a really solid chip and I don't think most people would notice the difference in performance).
That really is the main issue. Its shelf life will be short and the premium price makes that hard to swallow.
I wanted the 9.7 "pro", but it won't be a business expense. I will just have to decide whether it is worth taking the hit to get what I want today. If it had 4 gb, I would have bought it on day one. As it is, I am sticking with my Air 2 and waiting to see if I can avoid the temptation.
no, I don't care about the 3 dollars of this or the 5 dollars on that. My fun comes from the erudite explanations I always find whenever a b.o.m. appears on this site. I don't know the correct sentence in English, but in my country it sounds something like "climbing on glasses"
They do and yet they don't. Everything they said yesterday about the iPad Pro was true. It is several times faster than the previous one and has better graphics than before. Just because it doesn't compare to the one that costs several hundred more it's junk now in your mind?
Did people honestly believe that a company (not just Apple buy any smart company) was going to release a product that was cheaper than their flagship by a couple hundred dollars and let it cannibalize their flagship model? You really, honestly believed that?
1.8x the CPU performance of the Air 2. Double the graphics performance of the Air 2. Love how you're all about specs specs specs until it comes time to look at actual performance and then it turns to "I'm not convinced." What you're saying is that you just want to brag about specs all day and don't care about how something actually performs in day to day life. You're the guy that buys a car based on specs but won't race because you know that people with slower cars can smoke you all day long.
I see your point, like I said, I'm no engineer. However, the newest iPad Pro is equipped with an A9X, whereas the SE is an A9 (like the rest of the current iPhone lineup). Also, if I were an engineer, I sure wouldn't be posting on threads. LOL'z
There continues to be a misunderstanding of my original post. The above has nothing to do with my point.