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9C84 better than 9C85 on New MBP's?

jjahshik32 said:
Yes the 9c84 is better, sharper, brighter and more contrast.
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This is getting silly. Not true. For every 10 comments saying one is the better there are the same amount saying the other is. I have the LG and my girlfriend got the the Chi Mai and there pretty much the same. One had slightly more vivid colours the other has a slightly better viewing angle.

What matters more is that when you turn the screen on for the first time you think what a nice laptop screen and how much better it looks than my previous mac. Regardless of anything both screens are better than the last gen!!!
 
As I've said before, I have both and the differences are minimal. If you calibrate it, it's very very hard to see a difference.

I think the differences people are seeing are individual variations, not one display or the other being better.
 
James17 said:
I have two of the new Aluminum MBP's sitting in front of me at the moment. One is waiting to be sent back for the noise coming from the fans and the other is my new replacement. The replacement has a 9C84 screen and the old one has a 9C85. The 9C84 seems brighter and sharper compared to the 9C85. The 9C85 is more dull when set at full brightness compared to the 9C84.

Anyone else notice this or is it just me? :D
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This is my very first post on this forum. I have the EXACT same story, James17. I have two MBP's in front of me for the same reason, one being returned b/c of fan noise and the other is the replacement. The first has the 85 screen and the replacement is the 84. I was convinced that the 85 was better because it seemed so much warmer and vibrant and the 84 seemed so washed out, but now that I've been looking at them for a couple days (and using a much better profile on the 84) I'm not so sure. The 84 screen does seem brighter and punchier, yet many pics seem more appealing on the 85. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. I'm wondering if anyone has any input into which screen tends to have more accurate colors for digital photography, or is it just a matter of calibration? This is my first MBP - I love it but have been disappointed with the fan noise and the variation in display color. I'd appreciate any feedback and guidance.
 
Docjohn61 said:
I love it but have been disappointed with the fan noise and the variation in display color. I'd appreciate any feedback and guidance.
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You shouldn't have any fan noise unless your stressing the system. It should be nearly silent (the hard drive makes more noise).
 
Got the same problem:

two mbps in front of me, one has to go back to apple. I have to decide which one:confused:

the first one has a 9c84 and is crispier, brighter and sharper. but the backlight varies a lot in the corners.

the second one has a 9c85 and is kind of yellow (after calibrating!) and doesn't look as bright. On the other side it doesn't vary that much in the corners
Unfortunately, the 9c85 has some spotlights on the bottom with black screen and full brightnes...is there a possiblility to fix this or do i have to return it again?

(off topic: the keyboard on the first one is much harder, but hast some F-Key Problems)
 
Floreg said:
the first one has a 9c84 and is crispier, brighter and sharper. but the backlight varies a lot in the corners.

the second one has a 9c85 and is kind of yellow (after calibrating!) and doesn't look as bright. On the other side it doesn't vary that much in the corners
Unfortunately, the 9c85 has some spotlights on the bottom with black screen and full brightnes...is there a possiblility to fix this or do i have to return it again?
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I have both. The 84 has better white point, and is brighter. The 85 at full brightness looks like the 84 at 1 or 2 notches down. The 85 also has 'spotlights' on the bottom, best apparent when viewing a dark image.

I'm going to borrow an Eye One and calibrate both today. I still think I'll have to send the 85 back, due to the dimness and spotlights. I think both of those issues will nag at me for the life of the computer.
 
I just got back from lunch, where I calibrated both computers using the Eye One Dislplay 2. Using the same settings during both calibrations, the color temp ended up being a lot closer than before.

However, as a poster mentioned above, using the standard Leopard aurora background as a test showed that the 84 has more black-level steps/clarity. Looking in the bottom right as the other user instructed revealed a diffusion pixelation on the 85 that was vary apparent. The 84 on the other hand handled the transition much more smoothly. The diffusion is barely detectable.

The replacement with the 85 also came with some scratches/marks and a louder, yet buzzing right speaker, so it is going back to Amazon for another replacement.
 
I had to go through a couple of mbp's due to various issues and had the opportunity to compare the two screens side-by-side on three different units. I would have to agree that the 9c84 is definitely the brighter of the two but to get a true sense of the quality of the panel, one needs to compare the color, contrast, and black levels of the two.

Both 9c84 screens that I had compared to the 9c85 had extremely bad black levels which gets much worse at an angle. The colors looked washed out and although the 9c85 is a bit yellowish, the 84's had a reddish tint (even after calibrating) to it that I've seen in screens from lower end notebooks like an asus I used to own as well as an acer and a dell that we have here at work.

I believe the OP is correct in stating that the 9c84 would appear 'sharper' and not as 'dull' since the incredible brightness of the screen would have a tendency to make things that way. Still, in terms of color reproduction and contrast (black level), I'd say the 9c85 wins hands down.
 
all 3 mbp's that I went through had the 9c84 and the very strange part is that the 1st and my current one both has a very bright and whites look freakishly white and blacks look very very black but then 2nd mbp with the exact same 9c84 screen was very washed out and had a very poor contrast.

I honestly think it depends on the type of led that each manufacture has used in their panels.

Other than that my current 9c84 is so damn rich in colors.. it makes me think I have an S-IPS panel at times.

The viewing angle is excellent as well and blacks look so damn dark its like staring at a freshly printed ink!

I'm thinking about buying one of the new 24" led cinema display as they have them in stock at my local apple store.. but most of the time I look at my unibody mbp's screen.. I feel like I dont need that cinema display! Probably have to go look at it in person to convince myself again lol.
 
The only thing I know is that all 9C85 that I have seen (i'm on my 9th MBP) have the spotlights on the bottom. It is a matter of someone defining them as 'leaks' or never noticing them. My friend has a 9C85 and said it is perfect, but I could clearly see the spotlights on his machine...
 
Anyone notice the difference between running the 9400 vs 9600? Colors are out of wack on the 9400 but everything is lovely on the 9600
 
tom burns said:
The only thing I know is that all 9C85 that I have seen (i'm on my 9th MBP) have the spotlights on the bottom. It is a matter of someone defining them as 'leaks' or never noticing them. My friend has a 9C85 and said it is perfect, but I could clearly see the spotlights on his machine...
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I have spotlights on my 9c85 but they aren't noticeable enough to bother me especially since the brightest part of the spotlights is darker than the blacks of the two 9c84's that I compared it too.

Still, based on jjahshik32's post, it could very well be that i received two dud 9c84 panels which was why the colors were so washed out.
 
When I try to find the model for my screen, following the instructions posted on page 1, I see "model" 9C66. So which screen do I have?
 
voltare said:
When I try to find the model for my screen, following the instructions posted on page 1, I see "model" 9C66. So which screen do I have?
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Is this a new 15" MBP? If so that's the first report of that number I've seen.
 
Macbook Pro Type LED and %Saturation

Can anyone confirm if the new screens, 9C84 and 9C85, are white LED or RGB LED. Also LG's specs state the LP154Wp3 (9C84) is rated at 90% saturation. Do you now how they are making this claim, is there a way to test and confirm this?

Are there any published specs for the 9C85?
 
So how much a difference does calibration make?

How do you apply someone else's calibration? I've noticed them being posted, when I open them it opens the ColorSync Untility...how do you then apply it?
thanx
 
Can anyone here post some good ColorSync profiles? For the 9C84 and 9C85? Cause I wanna try some out but I can't seem to find any on the forums for the new MacBook pros. And if I'm not satisfied with the profile, can I revert back to default? Thanks
 
Please disregard my earlier post. I do not have a 9c66 screen. I guess migration assistant brought over my profiles from my old MBP. My new one has 9C84.
 
MowingDevil said:
So how much a difference does calibration make?

How do you apply someone else's calibration? I've noticed them being posted, when I open them it opens the ColorSync Untility...how do you then apply it?
thanx
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Calibration can make a huge difference at least in color accuracy.

Let's be clear. There is only one way to get a good calibration and that is run the hardware/software on your specific display (I use the x-rite eye one hardware and the Coloreyes Display Pro software). However you can usually get closer than the stock profile by using one profiled for your brand LCD.

To use a profile place in one of the following directories:
/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/Display (I recommend here)
/Library/ColorSync/Profiles
~/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/Display (can only be used for your account)
~/Library/ColorSync/Profiles (can only be used for your account)

Then open System Preferences -> Display. Click on the color tab and you should see the profile listed. Select the profile and you should see the display shift to the new color space.
 
freejack said:
I had to go through a couple of mbp's due to various issues and had the opportunity to compare the two screens side-by-side on three different units. I would have to agree that the 9c84 is definitely the brighter of the two but to get a true sense of the quality of the panel, one needs to compare the color, contrast, and black levels of the two.

Both 9c84 screens that I had compared to the 9c85 had extremely bad black levels which gets much worse at an angle. The colors looked washed out and although the 9c85 is a bit yellowish, the 84's had a reddish tint (even after calibrating) to it that I've seen in screens from lower end notebooks like an asus I used to own as well as an acer and a dell that we have here at work.

I believe the OP is correct in stating that the 9c84 would appear 'sharper' and not as 'dull' since the incredible brightness of the screen would have a tendency to make things that way. Still, in terms of color reproduction and contrast (black level), I'd say the 9c85 wins hands down.
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you're right for my displays here. The black point is for the 84er much to bright and the spotlights on my 85er aren't that annoying. But the keyboard on my first MBP (84er) is also a lot "harder" with a better feeling for me (although there are some F-Key issues). The 84er seems sharper but not as homogenous brightend in the corners as the 85er. By the way, the 84er has some soft spotlights from the bottom too, but the spot is larger and softer.

I think i will return my first MBP (very bright 84er with awesome hard keyboard) and try to deal with the second one (85er with yellowish sceen, spotlight leaks and a "softer" keyboard).
 
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