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You didn't have to buy one last time around either. I've never used a case on any of my iPhones, have dropped them all numerous times, and have never broken the front or back glass.

I suppose if you didn't break it, no one will...

What I'm trying to say is, what you just said doesn't actually mean anything as there have been people who have broken the glass by dropping them. I'm curious why you think your personal experience automatically applies to every IPhone owner?
 
I suppose if you didn't break it, no one will...

What I'm trying to say is, what you just said doesn't actually mean anything as there have been people who have broken the glass by dropping them. I'm curious why you think your personal experience automatically applies to every IPhone owner?

I'm curious as to why you think that the vast majority of people who don't use cases on their iPhones, break them? There will always be people who break things, that doesn't mean you or I need a case for our phones. If you choose to use one, thats fine, but it was never necessary.
 
I'm curious as to why you think that the vast majority of people who don't use cases on their iPhones, break them? There will always be people who break things, that doesn't mean you or I need a case for our phones. If you choose to use one, thats fine, but it was never necessary.

I'm pretty sure that's not what I said. Let me check... Nope, didn't say that.

You on the other hand seem to imply that because you didn't drop and break the phone, it's a non-issue. Its glass and can certainly break, a case helps prevent that. You not having broken it means nothing more than you haven't broken it.
 
Yet, the battery still sucks

Nothing wrong with the current battery.

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This really sucks. Looking less forward to the announcement now. No more "wow" factor.

Must be Samsung's fault.

Its almost like you don't realize this is rumor and at that says very little about he hardware or iOS 6 specific hardware features.

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Ok... Everything Siri can do, we have alternatives. We have had internet search queries through voice for a while. perhaps you are referring to setting a reminder using only your voice? Well ok, that's innovation for you, I guess.

You don't know what Siri does.

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So much for doubling down on secrecy. Tim Cook will look like an idiot on Sept 12.

Another person who acts like they don't know this is rumor.

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Unlike the 4/4S design there probably won't be an internal structural support layer in the middle of the phone. Rather the logic board and battery will mount to the unibody plate and the screen will go on top. Fewer layers means a thinner phone with more room for battery.

One of the rumor pictures on another site shows just that type of support structure that goes behind the screen. Maybe people should not judge based on rumor pictures. Not that anyone is doing that in this thread.
 
Exactly like the new iPhone. Why didn't they do that in iPhone 4 or 4s? Because they thought that people want shiny over durable? Form over function?
I have never had an issue with any of my 4's or 4s's. No one I know has broken their 4/4s because of a drop. I think the 4/4s design is by far the best looking phone on the market past or present and think, from the rumored design, the iPhone 5 is even better looking. So I don't feel I sacrificed durability or function. I guess we all have an opinion even if some of them are the wrong ones ;)
 
so is that why they moved the headphone jack to the bottom because the top needed a bit more space for the antennas?

Also it would be nicer if they had just use the top and bottom of the front glass as antennas instead of cutting out two windows at the back... but I guess there'd be practical limitations so that's probably why they didn't do it...
 
Unibody is cool and all but Apple needs to stop saying that it increased durability. It doesn't. Its the same in cars. Cars/trucks with frames are almost always more durable than unibody cars. Unibodies are more susceptible to warping and are almost impossible to get back in shape without replacing the entire body.

Actually, unibodies are never replaced because the body IS the entire car! They are pulled into alignment with a frame machine and then the badly crushed parts are cut off and new parts welded on.

When trucks are crashed, it is often the frame that gets replaced.

The iPhone machined frame is not likely to be damaged by simple drops. Something that would actually warp it would likely be catastrophic to the rest of the phone anyway. It would be the last thing to be damaged.
 
i am not a genius so dont kill me

so if the main stuff is bolted to the unibody, that means the battery isnt on the back plate as usual phones and it is closer to the screen wouldnt that produce more heat or is that the heat shield thats been floating around on the internet? either way im buying it, the iphone 4 looked great when it launched even though it was found in a bar prior that.
 
Hmm there's something about this design that doesn't resonate with me. I think it's the whole three-segment back that seems a bit strange.

To be honest, I would love an all-metal back (though I suspect this isn't feasible due to the antennae), but would accept a small bottom plastic/glass bit (a la the original iPhone). Having it at the top as well however just feels wrong.
 
i can't believe

i can't believe how many iphone 5 body cases are leaked. and how does macrumors get a hold of em. i am thinkin apple is leaking all their prototype cases and when mid september comes they are going to release something entirely different then these macrumor posts we have been seeing
 
The 911 isn't "brilliantly designed"! If it was, Porsche would never had placed the engine right at the back and then spend the next few decades making the thing handle properly! If anything it only works so brilliantly know because of computers and trial and error....

The iPhone.... works.... Apple fixed the antenna in the next model straight after the iPhone 4.

Oh - you sure know a lot about cars don't you?

The currently acclaimed best handled car in the world, Ferrari 458 Italia, has a beautiful glass back so you can look at the marvellous engine.

Actually a lot of high performance cars have the engine on the backside working as so called rear-mid-engine. Check the extensive list of Supercars on Wikipedia. :D

On topic - that phone is butt ugly. Period.
 
When people talk about Apple working on their latest products in the 'labs' it makes me laugh. They actually do very little cutting edge R&D. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but just stop pretending they're at the forefront of innovation.... This article says it all....

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/sdCsmwRe0tKHe3RtcOrYA_w/view.m?id=15&gid=commentisfree/2012/aug/10/profit-pr-enemies-innovation&cat=commentisfree
 
What has the engineering quality of the iphone got to do with the 911?
 
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Exactly like the new iPhone. Why didn't they do that in iPhone 4 or 4s? Because they thought that people want shiny over durable? Form over function?

The new iPhone design wasn't possible when the 4 and 4s were built. Hence why no one else has made a stainless steel, unibody smartphone yet.

Glass and plastic have different strengths. Plastic is more shatter proof but it doesn't have the same rigidity that glass has and it isn't as scratch resistant. Apple chose glass as it provides the rigidity necessary for a thin but strong design with minimal internal support structures. Had they chosen plastic, additional internal support would have been needed (see the internals of the 3GS in comparison to the 4S if you need evidence) because the plastic alone would be too bendy. This would have taken up precious internal space, making the phone bulkier.

So, no, they didn't choose glass because people want shiny over durable - they chose it because people want thin and light phones that can fit into their pocket. And, yes, they also want things that look great. That's also part of the function because humans aren't robots - they take joy in the look and feel of objects.

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When people talk about Apple working on their latest products in the 'labs' it makes me laugh. They actually do very little cutting edge R&D. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but just stop pretending they're at the forefront of innovation.... This article says it all....

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op...rofit-pr-enemies-innovation&cat=commentisfree

You do realise that article says nothing about Apple, don't you? There's one mention of Steve Jobs and then nothing whatsoever about the amount of R&D Apple does.

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One of the rumor pictures on another site shows just that type of support structure that goes behind the screen. Maybe people should not judge based on rumor pictures. Not that anyone is doing that in this thread.

I think you're thinking about the shield between the screen and the battery. I don't think that's a supporting structure so much as it protects the screen from the other internal components. The iPhone 4S has this too. I think all phones do.
 
When people talk about Apple working on their latest products in the 'labs' it makes me laugh. They actually do very little cutting edge R&D. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but just stop pretending they're at the forefront of innovation.... This article says it all....

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op...rofit-pr-enemies-innovation&cat=commentisfree

You're holding a article in the Guardian as the truth.
Didn't you learned at school that you can't trust the media?
 
please tell that to the thousands of people who did break the glass.

You know, I'm convinced in the future they'll look back and think:

Apple, with some of the best design talent on the planet, built a hugely successful mobile phone - one of the most frequently dropped devices - out of glass? Breakable, shatter-able glass?

They spent months mulling over the size and shape of buttons, and the precise speed of smoothness of even the most minute animations, and then made the phone out of glass? WTF were they thinking?
 
hybrid liquidmetal and stainless unibody

If this midpart is the final product, I'd say it's machined from a cold drawn profile, rather then a block of steel. And we would get an all stainless unibody.

However if the midpart is a prototype...
apple's patent to ultrasonically weld a plate to another part
+ liquidmetal's limitation for small parts
+ chamfered polished edges
= composed, rather then machined liquidmetal rim and stainless back

= a shock absorbing, scratchproof iphone that doesn't need a cover (apple's research shows that most people use a cover, Jony hates that)

edit: since the back is a different color (gun black stainless or buffed stainless) then the rims: The first option is void. So it must be the second, with the welded stainless sheet batch machined for the bosses, cut up, and hardened.

Why not hide the lens under the glass (move the flash to the bottom glass) and make an under glass earspeaker, and touch home buttom. Getting rid of all the holes in the glass, to compensate for the added complexity of the 2 tone back?
Ofcourse the small glass back panels could be made to look exactly like the unibodybackpanel (ea the glass trackpad in macbooks almost the same as unibody alu)
An all matte back, and glossy sides and front, all black, would rock!
 
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My goodness, a visitor from a planet where leaked product shots and rumors count as 'marketing'. Have you been on Earth for very long?

Well, long enough to understand that marketing stretches a lot further than running the occasional advert.

For the past several months, the online community has been obsessed with this thing. Every little screw and connector has been the subject of the most bizarre speculation. The first shots of the body produced a storm of hatred:

"It's too long!"
"The screen isn't as big as my head!"
"This would never have been released if Steve was still alive!"

A few more weeks, a few more rumours, a few more shots; and people are starting to warm to it. Design experts are writing articles about it; tech pundits are seeing how the screen size is possibly tied to the mythical AppleTV (currently being built by a factory staffed by unicorns). This will carry on up until the release, by which time folk will be falling over themselves to hand Apple the money.

That, my obviously young friend, is marketing. Hard to recognise, but marketing nonetheless.

This is not to say that every leak is Apple's doing. But I think the screen is down to them. They're managing expectations. Exhaust the naysayers early, and get people used to the idea that the screen is not going to be the size of a patio door.

When I go to buy a phone, I always ask "Does this look at the same as a previous product? If it does, I won't buy it. Money doesn't grow on trees and I have my priorities straight, you know."

Then I have a tip for you. Don't buy a real phone. Just buy a really flashy shell with no internal parts. It would be dirt cheap and you could still show off with it. :rolleyes:
 
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I'm not shocked that we find more members here now saying they "like" the design. Bottom line is, it's why Apple die hards are so widely referred to as sheep. When the leaks were just early rumors, the so called loyalists spoke their mind and said "Yuk!" But now as it gets closer to show time, and the leaks become more detailed and consistent, the loyalists are now realizing, this may indeed be the next iPhone. ;)

Tell me, how do you know it's the same people who initially complained about the design, now loving it? This forum, as you may very well know, it's full of Apple fans and Apple haters. I would even say 50/50.
 
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yup, the only thing apple has to do is crap out a mediocre upgrade. Show shiny pictures and a catchy commercial, then the sheep will line up, all the while thinking iphone is the greatest ever now that it has lte, nfc and a host of other features that are mainstream already. But since its apple it will be thought of as groundbreaking.

Hey, it's not Apple's fault the Android fans shot their bolt too early. :p

Months until launch and they're starting to be drowned out by people who love the look of the phone already.
 
Ugh, I don't like the idea of an unibody for phones! It means it will get much harder to use DYI kits to change the battery or make small fixes. If you drop your phone you can't buy a new back cover and put it there, you'd have to exchange the entire phone! :\

'you'd have to exchange the entire phone'

you have just described Apple's little known but highly innovative 'Express Replacement Service"

In warranty Express Replacement

Out of Warranty Express Replacement Service

Accidentally smashed your iPhone, but it's still working - no problem pay Apple from under $200 to ~$500 depending on model and they will ship a replacement so that you can set it up from a backup and return the old one without skipping a beat (fees vary depending on whether you have applecare, model etc but I've used it for clients and myself multiple times - it's a lot better than non authorised repairs using knock-off parts while you struggle along with some dodgy loan phone from 1992):cool:
 
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