All Devices A Few Questions About Notes and Reminders for Those on iOS 13 Beta

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purdnost

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Thank you in advance for those able and willing to answer any of the following questions. I 'm not ready to take the risk on a beta yet, but I'm curious how the Notes and Reminders apps have evolved and what I can expect to see when I update. This is a Wiki post, so please feel free to edit this original post with your comments.


Notes


Q: Can you swipe checklist items to delete and or move them to different folders?
A: No, it does not look like you can. swiping can reorder checklist items (somewhat poorly in this beta) but dragging them to other note or folder does not seem to work.


Q: Does the newer, more robust search functionality behave like the Find function in Safari?
A:


Q: Does searching within a note highlight all of the matching terms and jump to each consecutive instance?
A:It does highlight all instances, but there does not seem to be a "tab to move" feature.


Q: How many tiers of folders can you create in Notes? I'd like to put a note inside of a hierarchy of three or more folders. Is it limited to just two?
A: It's not limited to two. See screenshot in post #5.


Q: Can you sort checklists (newest to oldest, oldest to newest, etc.)?
A:


Q: Can you specify which note I want displayed in the Notes widget?
A: Only as to from the iPad or from iCloud.


Q: Can you add collaborators to password-protected notes?
A:


Q: Can you add a horizontal line inside of notes?
A:


Q: Does iCloud.com display the new folder hierarchy?
A:


Q: Is there an option to export all notes (for local backup purposes)?
A:


Q: Is there a preference for "condensed notes (to display just the note title in the list view)?
A:


Q: Can you specify which note opens from Control Center? In iOS 12, you're limited to last note edited or last note created from Control Center.
A:


Q: If I add a collaborator to a folder in Notes that contains locked (secure) notes, can the other person view them?
A:


Q: Can I add a collaborator to locked (secure) notes?
A:


Reminders


Q: Does the Reminders app sync with Calendar? In other words, is there something like a "Reminders" calendar that I can toggle on?
A:


Q: Does Reminders take ”Time to Leave” into account like Calendar does with the Maps Destinations widget?
A:


Q: Can you add links to reminders like you can with Calendar events?
A:


Q: Can you specify which list I want displayed in the Reminders widget?
A:


Q: Does the widget display all items, not just those with dates attached?
A:
 
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gwhizkids

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Yikes! I'd suggest you make this a wiki and people can type in answers directly onto your post (maybe highlighting the responses by coloring them red).

Otherwise, this thread is going to be a mess.

I definitely like the questions!
 
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purdnost

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Yikes! I'd suggest you make this a wiki and people can type in answers directly onto your post (maybe highlighting the responses by coloring them red).

Otherwise, this thread is going to be a mess.

I definitely like the questions!
Great idea! I didn't know you could do that. Unfortunately, one of the requirements to create a Wiki is that I have to have at least 25 posts under me belt, and I'm new. :/
 

revox12

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I have an additional Reminders question: Can you finally have a task with a due date but no time? (ex. “Remind me on Wednesday to take out the trash” results in an entry in the Today section on Wednesday that says “take out the trash,” but I don’t get an alert about it at 9am [or whatever arbitrary time I or Siri put in])
 

TitanTiger

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Before anyone tells me to do the bleeding obvious, I've already reported this issue in Feedback to Apple. But I wanted to see if anyone else has seen this behavior and has a fix.

After upgrading to iOS 13, Reminders no longer sync with devices running iOS 12 or Mojave. And you can no longer share lists (or sync) with people on iOS 12 or Mojave either. So the Grocery list we set up between me and my wife no longer updates when someone adds or removes something. If I send an invite to a new shared list, they get the notice and it tells them they need to upgrade to the latest version of Reminders, but then when it goes to the App Store, it doesn't give an option to upgrade, only "Open" the version they already have.

Is there a workaround to this?
 

gwhizkids

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Before anyone tells me to do the bleeding obvious, I've already reported this issue in Feedback to Apple. But I wanted to see if anyone else has seen this behavior and has a fix.

After upgrading to iOS 13, Reminders no longer sync with devices running iOS 12 or Mojave. And you can no longer share lists (or sync) with people on iOS 12 or Mojave either. So the Grocery list we set up between me and my wife no longer updates when someone adds or removes something. If I send an invite to a new shared list, they get the notice and it tells them they need to upgrade to the latest version of Reminders, but then when it goes to the App Store, it doesn't give an option to upgrade, only "Open" the version they already have.

Is there a workaround to this?
The Reminders database is rewritten in iOS 13 and no longer works with devices not on iOS 13 and upgraded. You may have seen (but not realized the importance of) the warning of upgrading the database if you still have (or interconnect with others') devices running <iOS 13. So, the short term solution is to upgrade your wife's phone to iOS 13. That may not be practical or a good idea, so the longer (8 week) solution is to wait for the public release of iOS 13 and when your wife upgrades, you'll be back on the same playing field again.
 
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The Reminders database is rewritten in iOS 13 and no longer works with devices not on iOS 13 and upgraded. You may have seen (but not realized the importance of) the warning of upgrading the database if you still have (or interconnect with others') devices running <iOS 13. So, the short term solution is to upgrade your wife's phone to iOS 13. That may not be practical or a good idea, so the longer (8 week) solution is to wait for the public release of iOS 13 and when your wife upgrades, you'll be back on the same playing field again.
I thought there was some notice of that when I first opened Reminders but I clicked on the button before realizing what it said and wasn't sure I'd seen it correctly. I wish there had been an "are you sure" secondary click thing or something. Oh well.

Would be nice if they'd update the Reminders app for iOS 12 also to use this database. Or maybe the ability to download the old version of Reminders in iOS 13 as a stopgap.
 

gwhizkids

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I thought there was some notice of that when I first opened Reminders but I clicked on the button before realizing what it said and wasn't sure I'd seen it correctly. I wish there had been an "are you sure" secondary click thing or something. Oh well.

Would be nice if they'd update the Reminders app for iOS 12 also to use this database. Or maybe the ability to download the old version of Reminders in iOS 13 as a stopgap.
Agree re the "Are you sure" button. Pretty drastic step and its one of the few things you can't reverse by going back to iOS 12 (in case you were wondering :( ).

Regarding the other things you mentioned, they're not going to do those as the new app is the future and they're not going to go back and update the old app to be the new app (or, rather, they did already and you're now just waiting for the rest of the world to catch up). It'll be painful but at least you know when it will end.
 

jtkboston

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Before anyone tells me to do the bleeding obvious, I've already reported this issue in Feedback to Apple. But I wanted to see if anyone else has seen this behavior and has a fix.

After upgrading to iOS 13, Reminders no longer sync with devices running iOS 12 or Mojave. And you can no longer share lists (or sync) with people on iOS 12 or Mojave either. So the Grocery list we set up between me and my wife no longer updates when someone adds or removes something. If I send an invite to a new shared list, they get the notice and it tells them they need to upgrade to the latest version of Reminders, but then when it goes to the App Store, it doesn't give an option to upgrade, only "Open" the version they already have.

Is there a workaround to this?
How about your wife sets up a new list using iOS 12 Reminders, and shares that with you? I theorize that will remain in reminders 12 format and usable by both iOS 12 and 13 apps.

(This only helps for shared lists, doesn't help one user with a mix of iOS 12 and 13 devices and Mojave/Catalina devices on the same iCloud account)
 

TitanTiger

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How about your wife sets up a new list using iOS 12 Reminders, and shares that with you? I theorize that will remain in reminders 12 format and usable by both iOS 12 and 13 apps.

(This only helps for shared lists, doesn't help one user with a mix of iOS 12 and 13 devices and Mojave/Catalina devices on the same iCloud account)
It's a good thought and I tried it that way, but it doesn't work.
 

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