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Man, I can't wait!
 
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Not true at all.

Apple fans never shut up about the Retina Display and Thunderbolt being better spec that others had.

It's just a defence excuse. As they are used to having poorer hardware they pretend specs don't matter, but as soon as their specs are better then they should long and hard about it.

A retina display looks different. A thunderbolt port reduces multiple ports to one, and transfers gb/s. This changes the experience and use of the device

A faster processor with a still laggy OS changes and an HDMI port on a phone that has no access to streaming movies or a movie store out of the box does not change the use and experience of the device.

Voice recognition that does this: "open word" or "play music"
-Not very impressive nor useful.

Voice recognition that does this: "open the document Jeff emailed me yesterday and print it" or "remind me to get milk next time I enter a grocery store"
-Impressive and useful

Are we making progress here?
 
Voice recognition that does this: "open word" or "play music"
-Not very impressive nor useful.

Voice recognition that does this: "open the document Jeff emailed me yesterday and print it" or "remind me to get milk next time I enter a grocery store"
-Impressive and useful
That's exactly why Voice Control sucks and Assistant sounds extremely compelling. You nailed it. Natural speech is the key.
 
I thought these features have been available since… like ever. My old keyboard phone had this same feature. I could use it to browse web by saying different words. But I never use it because it makes me look stupid in the public.

Yes, but could it make reservations for your dinner, buy movie tickets and order a cab for you?
 
Hmm, I'm hoping we don't have to long press the home button for Assistant. Personally, that's the #1 reason I don't like the Voice Control thing on my 3GS (apart from it never recognizing what I say). I hope we get a better way to initiate the Mic.

Maybe, swiping up on a capacitive home button. :)
 
revolutionary!! Just like facetime.. you know the thing I used the first day I got the phone...

and never again :rolleyes:

Hardly the same thing. How quickly can you speak out a text message -or- email as opposed to fumbling around with auto-correct etc. – especially while walking.

In addition you could feasibly text/email while driving too. This type of feature, however it transpires, will be a lot more useful than you might think.

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Hmm, I'm hoping we don't have to long press the home button for Assistant. Personally, that's the #1 reason I don't like the Voice Control thing on my 3GS (apart from it never recognizing what I say). I hope we get a better way to initiate the Mic.

Maybe, swiping up on a capacitive home button. :)

I would have faith in Apple's ability to create a fantastic user-experience. Mocking-up a quick video animation with no real-world testing should be taken with a pinch of salt :)
 
Big Deal :rolleyes:

If it doesn't have a bigger screen, I'm gonna give the SGs2 a try.
It comes to att tomorrow, so maybe I'll just get one and try it for a couple weeks.

Iphone 5 does NOT come out on the 4th, (that's the "announcement" date).
Iphone 5 doesn't come out til the 14th, (if there are no delays).
 
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Just tried speech recognition on my work's WP7.5, it never understoond one command. I talk with a clear Scottish accent that anyone can understand but obviously not a smartphone.

I can't see iVoice being much better tbh so it's a big FAIL from me.
 
The Assistant feature should support questions like that.

-What song is playing in the background?
-What is my current ETA?
-Define "superfluous"?
-What is 2586 divided by 14?
-What's a synonym for "supersede"? --- Another?
-Spell "supplant".
-What will the weather be like tomorrow afternoon in London?
-How many inches are in a yard?
-What is Citi's current stock price?
-What is the runtime of Forrest Gump?
-What year was Heather Graham born?
-Who is the CEO of Kimberly-Clark?
-What is the capital of Finland?
-What time is it in Los Angeles?
-What time zone is Dallas in?
-What was the final score of the Yankees game?
...



As you know, the Assistant will search info at Wolfram Alpha ontological search engine made by the genious Stephen Wolfram. Go to their site http://www.wolframalpha.com/ and just ask all your aforementioned questions there.. You will get surprised with the accuracy of the results. In other words, assistant can do anything you mentioned, with the exception of finding the music played at the background and probably the ETA
 
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Just tried speech recognition on my work's WP7.5, it never understoond one command. I talk with a clear Scottish accent that anyone can understand but obviously not a smartphone.

I can't see iVoice being much better tbh so it's a big FAIL from me.

Failed already huh? It's very existence is yet to be confirmed.
 
Just answering static questions like the above, or doing direct actions, is not that hard. E.g. sending tweets, emails, asking for directions such as "where is the nearest coffee?" and so forth.

For example, the Android Edwin voice-to-voice app does all the above and more. (If it doesn't have your type of question built-in, it refers it to Wolfram.)

Interactive actions are more complex, such as asking "Make me a reservation at a French restaurant in lower Manhattan." Then the assistant might have to confirm which restaurant, ask you the time if you forget to mention it, and ask you how many people.

Even interactions are not difficult once the actions are scripted, and that brings up a major point: to work well, then all the possible scenarios must be already built-in. Then it's hard for a user to remember (or even know) what can be done. They have to just try it and see. However, if a request fails, they might never ask again even if that capability is added later.
 
Damn. So Apple's Assistant will be fully integrated into all native iOS apps. You will be able to send emails, schedule appointments in Calendar, play music. Windows Phone has only caught up to maybe 40% of this functionality. Always playing catchup is MSFT. :mad::mad::mad:
 
Damn. So Apple's Assistant will be fully integrated into all native iOS apps. You will be able to send emails, schedule appointments in Calendar, play music. Windows Phone has only caught up to maybe 40% of this functionality. Always playing catchup is MSFT. :mad::mad::mad:

Where are you reading about this complete integration? I would like to read up on it. Are you saying I can tell the phone I want to watch a YouTube video of Led Zeppelin playing a specific song it will do that? Or the same thing in iTunes? If that is the case, I will be beyond impressed.
 
Where are you reading about this complete integration? I would like to read up on it. Are you saying I can tell the phone I want to watch a YouTube video of Led Zeppelin playing a specific song it will do that? Or the same thing in iTunes? If that is the case, I will be beyond impressed.

If you read all the various Apple sites, it does seem Assistant is thoroughly integrated into all iOS functions. If that's the case, then MSFT's TellMe is nothing compared to it right now.
 
If you read all the various Apple sites, it does seem Assistant is thoroughly integrated into all iOS functions. If that's the case, then MSFT's TellMe is nothing compared to it right now.

I wonder what is speculation and what is fact. Are you saying that the example I gave in my above post is possible? Or that I can speak my request for directions and it will map it out?
 
I wonder what is speculation and what is fact. Are you saying that the example I gave in my above post is possible? Or that I can speak my request for directions and it will map it out?

http://www.cultofmac.com/114276/how-this-guy-is-making-your-iphone-virtually-human/

Yes it can do that. It can book your flight, hotel reservation, schedule it in your Calender, calculate math problems(Wolfram Alpha).

Essentially this is the new big "magical" feature coming Oct 4th. Apple will demonstrate how you can arrange your entire vacation using speech alone on the IP5.
 
Waiting for ppl to say that all other companies were on the cusp of doing this and how it's not anything impressive because some phone from the 1980s that five ppl owned had voice recognition...

Also waiting for all other smartphones try to emulate this functionality in the coming months... albeit poorly
 
http://www.cultofmac.com/114276/how-this-guy-is-making-your-iphone-virtually-human/

Yes it can do that. It can book your flight, hotel reservation, schedule it in your Calender, calculate math problems(Wolfram Alpha).

Essentially this is the new big "magical" feature coming Oct 4th. Apple will demonstrate how you can arrange your entire vacation using speech alone on the IP5.

It looks like that is looking like a future possibility, but not all of that on the iPhone 5.
 
It looks like that is looking like a future possibility, but not all of that on the iPhone 5.

Given Apple's track record of introducing something BIG every major revision of an iPhone, safe to say I'm believing all the hype about it. The biggest part about Assistant isn't just the integration into all the areas of iOS or with the Wolfram Alpha "decision engine", but the conversation workflow that it's rumored to have. Your IP5 will essentially continue asking you questions until it gets all the info it needs to execute a bunch of actions to execute the end result you want. That is Star Trek!
 
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