I would say, open up to Queen, and eaves drop to Wood, who will check Techgod, that way we could link techgod and queen in another round and clear Wood, that way a nice chains of verification, unless the first one is a damn spy...
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[A] The Agency - GAME OVER -- SPIES WIN
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i think the cards are actually pretty good.
i would be happy to be cleared.
i can see the point of focusing in on mscriv from two different perspectives, since we don't have an definitive clear up card.
the drawback in that is that it is a bit of a waste.
better to have two semi-cleared or one mostly cleared?
i am not really following sythas's line of thought, if mscriv establishes confidence to QoS, she knows what mscriv is (and presumably would tell us), but we have no info of any kind about QoS
i would be happy to be cleared.
i can see the point of focusing in on mscriv from two different perspectives, since we don't have an definitive clear up card.
the drawback in that is that it is a bit of a waste.
better to have two semi-cleared or one mostly cleared?
i am not really following sythas's line of thought, if mscriv establishes confidence to QoS, she knows what mscriv is (and presumably would tell us), but we have no info of any kind about QoS
I think Sythas is misunderstanding Establish Confidence as Open Up so as revealing QoS role - which is kinda understandable given that Open Up was played as Establish Confidence last round.
I can see given we have no definite clears that double clearing some one would be nice but TBH I don't think we have enough plot cards to be wasteful like that so I think we'd be better off semi clearing 2.
Its unfortunate we don't have any adjacent team members - if we did the obvious thing to do would be to Establish Confidence to one member of the team and get another member of the team to Eavesdrop on the one we Established Confidence with to to create a chain.
The possible people we can eavesdrop (leaving out mscriv since we'll get his role by Establish Confidence) are DP, TechGod or Sythas since mscriv chose alternate players - so the question is who do we want to eavesdrop - my thinking is clear someone who is going to be leading a team soonest - so DP. Not certain if that's the best strategy or not.
I can see given we have no definite clears that double clearing some one would be nice but TBH I don't think we have enough plot cards to be wasteful like that so I think we'd be better off semi clearing 2.
Its unfortunate we don't have any adjacent team members - if we did the obvious thing to do would be to Establish Confidence to one member of the team and get another member of the team to Eavesdrop on the one we Established Confidence with to to create a chain.
The possible people we can eavesdrop (leaving out mscriv since we'll get his role by Establish Confidence) are DP, TechGod or Sythas since mscriv chose alternate players - so the question is who do we want to eavesdrop - my thinking is clear someone who is going to be leading a team soonest - so DP. Not certain if that's the best strategy or not.
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I was thinking along these same lines. I understand that players pretty much always have to be viewed as "semi cleared", but to me that is pretty trustworthy as what would a spy gain by lying about the results that are PM'd to them? The lie may cause some confusion, but it immediately outs that person as a possible spy because of the the dispute it would cause. The only reason to believe a spy would lie is in order to cover the identity of another spy.
So, I'm thinking...
Eavesdrop to Koodauw so he can verify the role of Don't Panic.
Establish Confidence to WoodNUFC so he can verify my role. (I'm an agent by the way)
No Confidence to QOS
I'm not bolding it yet in case anyone else has thoughts to post. In the morning I'll make a final decision to either go with this or make some changes.
sorry when i missed it but why don't you hand out establish confidence to the player that gets eavesdropped?
e.g.: koodauw eavesdrops on dp who establishes confidence in mscriv?
if this mission succeeds, mscriv (assuming dp presents an agent) will be most likely on the next mission(s) as well and then could semi-clear koodauw with the next eavesdrop, if we haven't found another way to semi-clear him before.
there is a possibility that all three are spies (heavily doubt it but possible of course), but I'd want to see how they'd play it out in that case, not that easy. as soon as one is found out we'd have spotted 3/4 of the bad guys in one swift move.
e.g.: koodauw eavesdrops on dp who establishes confidence in mscriv?
if this mission succeeds, mscriv (assuming dp presents an agent) will be most likely on the next mission(s) as well and then could semi-clear koodauw with the next eavesdrop, if we haven't found another way to semi-clear him before.
there is a possibility that all three are spies (heavily doubt it but possible of course), but I'd want to see how they'd play it out in that case, not that easy. as soon as one is found out we'd have spotted 3/4 of the bad guys in one swift move.
i think this is what fenris was saying about having 'adjacent' players in the team.
koodauw can eavesdrop and clear me, but since i am not on the team, i cannot get a card and thus cannot clear mscriv by him establishing confidence in me. hope it was not too confusing
i think this is what fenris was saying about having 'adjacent' players in the team.
koodauw can eavesdrop and clear me, but since i am not on the team, i cannot get a card and thus cannot clear mscriv by him establishing confidence in me. hope it was not too confusing
DANG! Though I'd have missed something - seemed too easy.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious though.Anyway, I'd rather give QoS than WoodNUFC the establish confidence then. Assuming you get cleared, there is a possibility that you can clear her later on (and hence mscriv).
Btw, I'm too lazy an agent to write semi-clear every other post so in this game clear=semi-clear and 100% clear=clear
Wait, how can you guys vote when we haven't played the plots/ gathered info? Reckless bunch of agents.
No, I wanted to create a chain of clearance for when we'll have more card. We cannot link right now, but could in subsequent mission, but if there's 1 spy it will not work anyway.
Technically yeah but I'm trying to speed things along since I already have the other two.
All votes are in. @mscriv distribute the cards so we can complete the turn.
Mission 1 - Card Distribution
Okay, here we go...
Eavesdrop to Koodauw so he can verify the role of Don't Panic.
Establish Confidence to WoodNUFC so he can verify my role. (I'm an agent by the way)
No Confidence to QOS
Okay, here we go...
Eavesdrop to Koodauw so he can verify the role of Don't Panic.
Establish Confidence to WoodNUFC so he can verify my role. (I'm an agent by the way)
No Confidence to QOS
ok, y'all three are spies to me now, especially Koodauw. that makes mscriv look bad too. Think we've found 4/4 spies. *high five*
but in all seriousness, that was played really bad with a no confy card in hand and two plots to possibly spot a traitor.
but in all seriousness, that was played really bad with a no confy card in hand and two plots to possibly spot a traitor.
Don't worry, I'll give you guys some time o play the cards. I won't be home until around 8 PM EDT so I'm hoping @mscriv will distribute the cards and you guys have time to play them before then.
In fact I'll declare that the deadline for card distribution/play is 8 PM EDT tonight.
Well, I don't have any particular feeling positive or negative about either QOS or WoodNUFC at this point. Like I posted earlier, the Establish Confidence card can clear me, but it won't really tell us anything about the person who used it. For this reason I don't see the card as a particularly strong play in terms of gathering information about either one of them. If Wood is a spy then he is just as likely to report accurately regarding my role as an agent would. I know I'm an agent and this card will show that. The only way to catch a spy with the Establish Confidence card is for the Team Leader to be a spy or for the person getting the card to be a spy and lie about the PM results sent to them. However, in the case of the latter the person being lied about is the only one who will know for sure.
Do you have any specific reason why you would have played the cards opposite? In your previous post you said you would "prefer" QOS over WoodNUFC, but didn't really expound more than just a personal preference.
Okay, I guess I was thinking along the lines of we can clear either of them later, but you are referencing the specific plan of giving a cleared DP the other Eavesdrop card later in the game. I guess I find it hard to make plans like that as it requires several variables to all fall into perfect alignment. Sure, it's possible, but card distribution is random not to mention DP would have to be on the team when the next Eavesdrop comes out. And, of course, all of this is contingent upon the assumption that he is indeed an agent.
If he is cleared he's going to be on every team unless he's the team leader - and we can always Nay his team if we feel having him on the team is more useful than him leading it.
the important is tho start a chain on trust that can then be elongated in either direction.
the longer it is, the higher the chances are everyone involved is clear
the longer it is, the higher the chances are everyone involved is clear