If you care about audio quality, you would use a DAC though.
It wouldn't be the future unless the phone could take photos without a camera, and instead use another type of built in imaging sensor.
Nice straw man argument, or attempt at one.
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A year after iPhone 7 omitted headphone jack, do you care? (a friendly wager)
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If you care about audio quality, you would use a DAC though.
It wouldn't be the future unless the phone could take photos without a camera, and instead use another type of built in imaging sensor.
Nice straw man argument, or attempt at one.
Hypothetical situations can be helpful, but they can also induce unnecessary worry and stress over a situation that may never occur. Let's not worry about the Apple Car and iPhone camera situations until they actually happen, ok? Instead, it would be a better use of our time to find a workaround for situations that we must deal with today.
This again all comes down to some of us wanting features and functionality, versus the folks who want to be Apple customers.
Let me give you an example. I am a total Android fanboy. To me, it is clearly far more cutting edge. iOS is for noobs like my mom, and Android is more for power users who want a file system, easy drag and drop and pretty much unlimited file format support, who want to make the UI their own for the way that helps THEM work, not how some marketing exec demands that they should work. Android pushes the envelope. Apple might have started the smartphone revolution, but they gave up control and have been in the passenger seat trying to keep up for over a half a decade. Most Apple fans are so entrenched in their little eco system that they don't even know half the stuff that Android has had for years, as evidenced by the fact that so many of you jump with jubilation and call Apple "innovative" over some new features, when they are in reality, 2 years late to the party with it...
That aside, as an Adroid fanboy, does that mean I am blind to Android's faults? HELL NO.
1) I am annoyed that Android never really nailed the smartwatch experience. They are clearly trailing behind there.
2) I am annoyed that Google revised their digital assistant in such a way that I can't tell it to play songs from my collection. You tell it, "Play The Ramones" and the songs are MP3 format, on my phone physically, but Google Assistant no longer plays them via voice command unless I pay $10 per month for a Google Play Music subscription? To use voice commands for songs that I already own, that are on the damned device? WTF?
3) Google really needs to take charge of the damned manufacturers and hold their toes to the fire with regards to updates. While I like the idea of multiple players to keep things competitive, and to have a choice of size, styles, form factors and price, it does fragment things and make it harder to keep things updated quickly, unless you have a Pixel. With a Pixel, you get the best camera you can buy and an Apple like experience as the software and hardware are designed together.
4) Long term support for a device, is less in regards with software updates. Unless you have a Pixel, you get one major release, 2 if you are really lucky. That's it.
5) Google needs to grow a pair with regards to letting carriers push them around and load up their phones with bloat. Apple doesn't allow that crap, and neither should Google.
Let me give you an example. I am a total Android fanboy. To me, it is clearly far more cutting edge. iOS is for noobs like my mom, and Android is more for power users who want a file system, easy drag and drop and pretty much unlimited file format support, who want to make the UI their own for the way that helps THEM work, not how some marketing exec demands that they should work. Android pushes the envelope. Apple might have started the smartphone revolution, but they gave up control and have been in the passenger seat trying to keep up for over a half a decade. Most Apple fans are so entrenched in their little eco system that they don't even know half the stuff that Android has had for years, as evidenced by the fact that so many of you jump with jubilation and call Apple "innovative" over some new features, when they are in reality, 2 years late to the party with it...
That aside, as an Adroid fanboy, does that mean I am blind to Android's faults? HELL NO.
1) I am annoyed that Android never really nailed the smartwatch experience. They are clearly trailing behind there.
2) I am annoyed that Google revised their digital assistant in such a way that I can't tell it to play songs from my collection. You tell it, "Play The Ramones" and the songs are MP3 format, on my phone physically, but Google Assistant no longer plays them via voice command unless I pay $10 per month for a Google Play Music subscription? To use voice commands for songs that I already own, that are on the damned device? WTF?
3) Google really needs to take charge of the damned manufacturers and hold their toes to the fire with regards to updates. While I like the idea of multiple players to keep things competitive, and to have a choice of size, styles, form factors and price, it does fragment things and make it harder to keep things updated quickly, unless you have a Pixel. With a Pixel, you get the best camera you can buy and an Apple like experience as the software and hardware are designed together.
4) Long term support for a device, is less in regards with software updates. Unless you have a Pixel, you get one major release, 2 if you are really lucky. That's it.
5) Google needs to grow a pair with regards to letting carriers push them around and load up their phones with bloat. Apple doesn't allow that crap, and neither should Google.
I don’t use the camera on my phone so this wouldn’t affect me at all. That said, I don’t want to see Apple remove it.
Just like the headphone port, those who didn’t use it before it doesn’t affect them now that it was removed. But at least everyone had a choice before.
Apple could have easily helped improve Bluetooth audio quality while still releasing phones with headphone ports. The AirPods still would have sold very well.
It's not just headphones... I could connect to a wide variety of older cars and devices like home receivers, using the AUX input... It's one of those things that can be handy to have. Yes, I can buy a dongle, and I have, but I notice that there is hissing and background noise with the dongle, that isn't there when I plug the earbuds into a phone with a headphone jack...
It's not the end of the world for me, but if people are asking if we miss it, or would prefer to have it as an option, then yes, absolutely. What is the benefit to me, to NOT have it? Nothing...
I understand that you want certain features and functionality. So, the best approach for you right now would be to take the resources you're currently using to voice your concerns about something that you're not going to be able to change, and put those resources to use to find a device that will meet your needs.
Just such a lame argument! It's 2018, Bluetooth was invented in the nineties for heaven's sake, it's been on EVERY iPhone since the very first in 2007. Wireless is no more "the future" than the headphone jack, and it never required the removal of the headphone jack to make it work, we already had it!
The reality is that there is no one single device that meets all of my needs. It's like politics... Neither Hillary nor Trump were what you would call good candidates. Neither was Sanders or any of the other hopefuls... My choice, like a lot of people's, is the lesser of two evils... Which one will screw me slightly less than the other... LOL
This time around, I really wanted the best Watch, and that meant I had to give up my Android to get it, so I did.
Maybe next year Google comes out with a Pixel Watch that is as good as the Apple watch, and I might switch back...
Well, if you're open to changing your needs or expectations, I am willing to bet that you'd be able to find something that would work perfectly for you. Everything in life changes at some point. We must be flexible enough to bend with the wind lest we break in the slightest breeze.
The problem is phones are a compromise these days. There’s usually not one device that does it all. For example, I can’t use phones with AMOLED screens so that limits my selection. Then I’m on Verizon due to it being the only service that works in my office so it limits it even more. Then very few still have headphone ports. I also like long term support for my devices. Therefore I have to compromise with Apple. Before it wasn’t a compromise, now it is.
I’m just one use case, but I’m sure others have to compromise as well.
Another good point... BT is ancient. The put out new revisions, but it's been around for well over a decade... there is nothing "future" about something that was launched in 1999... It's almost 2 decades old at this time, and to your point, we didn't gain that, we already had it... so all they did was taking something away, we didn't get anything new to replace it...
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Life is compromise, hence why I had to settle for an iPhone, if I wanted the Apple Watch...
The second that someone gets an Android watch done right, I will be ditching Apple for that and a OnePlus phone and call it a day... LOL
It's one of the reasons I've lost faith in Apple. It's one of the thing that force you to frequently make excessive purchases. I get it. Airpod is great, and I own one. But it's battery life is noticeably diminishing, and my triple-fi earphones I purchased long long times ago still works great. I guess it's great strategy for stock holders, but not for me.
After countless times ripping my EarPods out of my ears from catching the wires I view the headphone jack in my good riddance rear view mirror.
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If only Apple offered a tiny adapter in the box and available in the store.
After countless times ripping my EarPods out of my ears from catching the wires I view the headphone jack in my good riddance rear view mirror.
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If only Apple offered a tiny adapter in the box and available in the store.
So they take away the feature, and then sell it back to you for a fee. And if you want to listen to your wired earbuds and charge the phone at the same time, there is a larger, more expensive dongle they can sell you to give you back what they took away.
As someone else stated, brilliant for stockholders, not so much for end users...
Ripping the earbuds out of your ears when they catch on something is annoying, but so is having an expensive wireless earbud falling out of your ear on the road or the trail and landing in the mud, or losing it altogether... At least the wired one is "tethered" to you by virtue of it being wired... And if you do manage to lose your wired set, you can go to any convenient store, grocery store or gas station and replace it for $15.
The iPhone is actually an excellent source for low impedance headphones, such as quality in-ear monitors. It has a nearly perfectly flat output with zero hiss. Most portable external DAC/amp combos only wish they were so good. The iPhone drives $1000+ IEM's perfectly. Too bad I need two different adapters now if I want compatibility with both my iPhone and my iPad.
Ripping the earbuds out of your ears when they catch on something is annoying, but so is having an expensive wireless earbud falling out of your ear on the road or the trail and landing in the mud, or losing it altogether... At least the wired one is "tethered" to you by virtue of it being wired... And if you do manage to lose your wired set, you can go to any convenient store, grocery store or gas station and replace it for $15.
Before you complained about reduced audio quality. Now it's a lack of $15 headphones. Does not compute.
By the way, Bluetooth headphone are available for $15, and they sound about as bad as the $15 wired headphones.
In a pinch, you can replace them in a hurry, and to be honest, I have tried a LOT of earbuds over the years, and the $25 Skullcandy types sound as good or better than of the much more expensive BT types. And I don't need to recharge them...
Was not a fan of removal. But recently while doing some work in the back yard...used an old iPod with airbuds.
...it was frustrating to use to say the least, constantly knocking the airbuds out of my ears while doing any physical work or other annoyances. Going back to AirPods was a blessing.
Not looking back, that's for sure. The only feature I did like was ability to control volume on the cord control unit.
...it was frustrating to use to say the least, constantly knocking the airbuds out of my ears while doing any physical work or other annoyances. Going back to AirPods was a blessing.
Not looking back, that's for sure. The only feature I did like was ability to control volume on the cord control unit.
I switched to bluetooth when I got my 6. So it's been almost 4 years without it.
Also for those moaning you can’t charge and listen to music at the same time, buy a wireless charger. Simples.
At the end of the day this is a preference thing and if people want Bluetooth they use Bluetooth, and wired headphones work too. It’s not really a debate as such as we tend to use what works for us, not what someone on a another continent uses and happens to reaffirm on a forum.
One more thing to lug around with you.
Nobody is saying that there are not any workarounds... only lamenting that they cost money, involve more wires, adapters and chargers, and make it less convenient that it was. That's not progress, no matter how you slice it.