You're the one that wrote that it doesn't matter. What else could that have meant?
That he's a sniveling child that hates anyone who criticizes him? Point made loud and clear.
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Aaron Sorkin Blasts Tim Cook for Calling Steve Jobs Films 'Opportunistic'
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You're the one that wrote that it doesn't matter. What else could that have meant?
That he's a sniveling child that hates anyone who criticizes him? Point made loud and clear.
Yes, he blurted out a childish, incorrect ad hominem without thinking and then provided a forced non-apology to patch things up. This is not a "burn", it is the reactive outbursts of a thin-skinned man whose narcissism made him think Cook was referring to him personally.
I think where Tim Cook is coming from is the fact he lost a very close friend only a few years ago... I'm sure if you asked other friends and family about how they feel that they too wouldnt really like the idea... to them they have only recently buried Steve and some still can't believe he's gone... yes he was a great man and people want to share this with the world...
But when they decided to write a book it was with Steves permission... the author then asked the families permission after Steves death to continue with the book -- this is called respect.
None of the movie makers have asked permission, nor have they kept friends and family in the loop, nor have they offered them advance screenings for approval -- this would be respect.
unless you are an avant-garde movie maker, then you are either wanting fame or fortune or both... in this case he wants to make money, otherwise no one would produce this movie...
As for Kids in china working for 17c an hour -- very laughable... for one Apple don't run the factories or control the salaries - Apple can make requests in the contract with the factories, such as better conditions, better hours, legal age limits etc -- but they cannot control if children lie about their age (this does happen in china) if some factories dont obey the laws or agreements etc...
Also - last i checked... apple were not the only company in china using these factories - and in fact those who work making products for apple are reportedly to have the better working conditions.
Finally, if you are not making a film to make money this must mean you are making a film because you want to share steve and apple with the world - so why would you go and diss a company that the main person in your film help set up and make it what it is today, including the factories that you just took a jab at...
clearly his statement showed that he doesnt really care about apple or steve and he was just making the movie because he knew he could make money from it...shameful
But when they decided to write a book it was with Steves permission... the author then asked the families permission after Steves death to continue with the book -- this is called respect.
None of the movie makers have asked permission, nor have they kept friends and family in the loop, nor have they offered them advance screenings for approval -- this would be respect.
unless you are an avant-garde movie maker, then you are either wanting fame or fortune or both... in this case he wants to make money, otherwise no one would produce this movie...
As for Kids in china working for 17c an hour -- very laughable... for one Apple don't run the factories or control the salaries - Apple can make requests in the contract with the factories, such as better conditions, better hours, legal age limits etc -- but they cannot control if children lie about their age (this does happen in china) if some factories dont obey the laws or agreements etc...
Also - last i checked... apple were not the only company in china using these factories - and in fact those who work making products for apple are reportedly to have the better working conditions.
Finally, if you are not making a film to make money this must mean you are making a film because you want to share steve and apple with the world - so why would you go and diss a company that the main person in your film help set up and make it what it is today, including the factories that you just took a jab at...
clearly his statement showed that he doesnt really care about apple or steve and he was just making the movie because he knew he could make money from it...shameful
Let's not forget the fact that Sorkin has a high profile movie being released in 3 weeks - - this type of provocative press release is simply part of Film Promotion 101. Facts/reality are irrelevant.
All publicity is good publicity.
All publicity is good publicity.
Awesome. Though how much would it cost to produce in USA? Is someone taking the "opportunity" to make devices in countries with very very low reasonable salaries, and sent to USA for max profit ?
If only the discussion was about Foxconn offering reasonable wages.
Also your source 1: the reference to kids is no doubt to reports that came out kids were employed by factories where apple products were made. Apple cut ties with those parties that were known to use underage workers.
I'd Like a call from our younger posters . I'm of the notion this was an excellent "burn"
I'm of the notion that if you can analyse a statement to such an extent, the value of said burn has sailed far far over ones head....
It would be like analysing a joke and wondering why others are laughing cause factually it's incorrect ....
Just saying a few of us might , kind of , feel like that. And boy is it hard explaining why something is funny.....
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Ohh, I get it. He may as well have said "With a mother that fat you've got a lot of nerve calling someone else opportunistic", and it would have been just as funny, and just as a good a burn.
Let's face it, the man is a tosser.
Wrong again. There are no slaves in Apple's factories. They are all their by CHOICE. In fact there are always 3x more applicants than hires at Foxconn factories. Foxconn pays a decent wage compared to the cost of living in China.
You should have some dignity and learn the facts first.
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really? gee, thanks.
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a little harsh imo but yeah.. i can't really argue against that and would say we're in agreement for the most part.
You said there are slaves. They are not. They are their by choice. But then again why not tell lies if its sounds more interesting right? :/
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Too many people don't understand the basic nuances of Hyperbole.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hyperbole?r=75&src=ref&ch=dic
Also in regards to Tim Cook's comment. Cook has been very critical in the past of anything that speaks negatively about Steve Jobs. I can understand why. For him it is personal. it was his friend. Cook was in the "inner circle"
all this shows is that Mr Jobs was a human being, who had varying layers and sides. But Tim Cook's experiences with the man doesn't mean all the negative that the rest of the world saw didn't also happen, and vice versa, all the bad people did see, didn't mean the good didn't happen.
I think it's very VERY Disingenuous of Tim to criticize media and biographies that doesn't paint Job's in the exact light Tim wants. Tim is a very biased, albeit it, primary source of information, But he wasn't the only.
You have to remember a lot of the details in many of these movies and bio's came directly from Steve Job's as a "death bed" confession to.
Cook needs to realize that while he can control Apple's messages and marketing and "Distortion Field", the legacy of Steve Jobs as a person is now out of his hands.
Too many people don't understand the basic nuances of Hyperbole.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hyperbole?r=75&src=ref&ch=dic
Also in regards to Tim Cook's comment. Cook has been very critical in the past of anything that speaks negatively about Steve Jobs. I can understand why. For him it is personal. it was his friend. Cook was in the "inner circle"
all this shows is that Mr Jobs was a human being, who had varying layers and sides. But Tim Cook's experiences with the man doesn't mean all the negative that the rest of the world saw didn't also happen, and vice versa, all the bad people did see, didn't mean the good didn't happen.
I think it's very VERY Disingenuous of Tim to criticize media and biographies that doesn't paint Job's in the exact light Tim wants. Tim is a very biased, albeit it, primary source of information, But he wasn't the only.
You have to remember a lot of the details in many of these movies and bio's came directly from Steve Job's as a "death bed" confession to.
Cook needs to realize that while he can control Apple's messages and marketing and "Distortion Field", the legacy of Steve Jobs as a person is now out of his hands.
Do you understand what sarsacm is?
Cause if you belief the poster stated there are slaves , I am speechless ! Just to get the facts straight as not to insult, is English , your first language ?
Exaggeration doesn't negate the point of Sorkin's comments. Again, you completely missed the point.
But he is wrong - Apple doesn't have its own factories, and the factories they rent are are regularly inspected by Apple.
Reminds me of the canceled story arc in "That 70's Show" of Eric getting an Apple ][. Story goes Fox was all for it but Apple didn't want that wide exposure to their early products.
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> he and other top executives on the project had taken pay cuts to get the film made
Oh, good for you, Mr. Sorkin! I'll call Pope Francis and get you on the list for sainthood!
You took pay cuts because you wanted to make the movie and couldn't get enough funding to do it at your usual rate of pay. Spare us the "starving artist" schtick.
Oh, good for you, Mr. Sorkin! I'll call Pope Francis and get you on the list for sainthood!
You took pay cuts because you wanted to make the movie and couldn't get enough funding to do it at your usual rate of pay. Spare us the "starving artist" schtick.
In other words, he was acting like any other Entertainment Industry Professional.
Good thing none of the equipment used in the entertainment industry is manufactured by factories full of children in China getting 17 cents an hour.
Not sure I would consider that an attack. He responded to Tim Cooks hypocritical comment. Is it OK for Tim to make a comment about someone making money off of a story but then it is not OK for that person to respond that Tim Cook and Apple make BILLIONs on the backs of extremely low paid off shore workers?
I think its totally fair. Apple and/or Tim Cook are not untouchables as many on this forum think. Tim Cook himself is extremely opportunistic in many ways...
Not so obvious, unless you have some supporting links.
Other than Tim Cook's, all of the quotes I've seen have been very enthusiastic.
Wozniak: "I felt like I was actually watching Steve Jobs" ... "I give full credit to Danny Boyle and Aaron Sorkin for getting it so right."