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About that Tapered iPhone 5 Design...
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If they released a tapered iPhone 5 people would have been moaning how none of the accessories fit and they have to buy all new cases.
Analysts and rumor sites are raising everyone's expectations too high. The A5 is a solid upgrade, the camera is a solid upgrade, the retina display was already nice.
This release focused way more around the iOS ecosystem and deep cloud integration. There are no competing (Android or otherwise) handsets that will offer this kind of seamless integration between devices.
Also you can't discount Siri. I have used voice commands to "attempt" to send texts using an Android handset. It's terrible. If Siri is half as good as it looks in the first release of iOS5, it will definitely set the bar very high for the competition.
I know I'll be picking up a 4S on day one. Half of the people that are balking at Apple for reusing the 4's design will probably be early adopters.
This release focused way more around the iOS ecosystem and deep cloud integration. There are no competing (Android or otherwise) handsets that will offer this kind of seamless integration between devices.
Also you can't discount Siri. I have used voice commands to "attempt" to send texts using an Android handset. It's terrible. If Siri is half as good as it looks in the first release of iOS5, it will definitely set the bar very high for the competition.
I know I'll be picking up a 4S on day one. Half of the people that are balking at Apple for reusing the 4's design will probably be early adopters.
Yeah - you mean the history like 3G - 3Gs - 4 - 4s...?
EDIT: OK, I get your point, maybe you will be right...
I doubt Apple cares about the whiners here, and I don't want to pay the cost of a minor case mod. Apple has it right this time, the whiners are ... well, whiners.
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4 or 4S what is really the difference to most people looking for the most advanced and easiest smart phone on the planet. the tapered edge is cosmetic and in my opinion less firm in the hand than the present design. there are sizable improvements in the new model, don't get hung up on the moniker it means nothing and is just a marketing tool.
4 or 4S what is really the difference to most people looking for the most advanced and easiest smart phone on the planet. the tapered edge is cosmetic and in my opinion less firm in the hand than the present design. there are sizable improvements in the new model, don't get hung up on the moniker it means nothing and is just a marketing tool.
Or you wait and use the 2d iteration without all the kinks (i.e. Antennagate etc.)
This is probably the Sprint Wimax 4G phone. I think the reason why the parts rumors do not leak on this device is they are being made in Brazil where we have not seen many leaks in the past and the leak network is not well established.
Brazil is the only existing factory that has not yet been maxed out with Apple production and it would be consistent with the rumor Brazil iPad production is delayed or reduced.
Also Wimax as well as LTE devices are likely to be data only with no (or limited)voice hardware or antennas at all, so could go back to a Touch visual form factor as opposed to the 4/4G which needs multiple antennas to support multiple protocols and even simultaneous Tx/Rx on different protocols and frequencies.
We could see a 4G transition to two standards, Wimax (analagous to marginalized CDMA), and LTE (analagous to widespread GSM) in the three flavors, the one that services China, Apple's primary market, as well as the two other flavors that service USA and most of Europe.
The rest of the world may be relegated to 3/3.5G for some time to come for lack of capital to expand networks to modern standards.
Please note even the 3GS isn't dead yet! At least another year to go. Amazing product life for a phone handset. Record?
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Brazil is the only existing factory that has not yet been maxed out with Apple production and it would be consistent with the rumor Brazil iPad production is delayed or reduced.
Also Wimax as well as LTE devices are likely to be data only with no (or limited)voice hardware or antennas at all, so could go back to a Touch visual form factor as opposed to the 4/4G which needs multiple antennas to support multiple protocols and even simultaneous Tx/Rx on different protocols and frequencies.
We could see a 4G transition to two standards, Wimax (analagous to marginalized CDMA), and LTE (analagous to widespread GSM) in the three flavors, the one that services China, Apple's primary market, as well as the two other flavors that service USA and most of Europe.
The rest of the world may be relegated to 3/3.5G for some time to come for lack of capital to expand networks to modern standards.
Please note even the 3GS isn't dead yet! At least another year to go. Amazing product life for a phone handset. Record?
Rocketman
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I think the next phone is gonna get wider, that's the real estate I"m talking about. The A6 chip is gonna be smaller more efficient so that plus a 'wider' battery is gonna be pretty awesome I think.
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told me that the spray that the Apple uses to make its products magical... is made from a mix of unicorn horns and pixie wings. This will be better. This what Apple fans do with rumorsites. We're like the that song.
Cause you're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in and you're out
You're up and you're down
You're wrong when it's right
It's black and it's white
We fight, we break up
We kiss, we make up
You!
You don't really want to stay, no
You!
But you don't really want to go-oh
You're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in and you're out
You're up and you're down
Lather. Rinse. Repeat. iPad 3 comes out March 22nd. 24 core Apple A16 processor. 128GB of storage. 32GB of memory. I know what a let down.
Sprint user switching to iPhone
I am a macbook user, and an iPad2 user. I just happen to have a Sprint share account so I am stuck with Sprint. I am looking forward to ios5 and an iPhone, no matter what the form factor is. My only concern is the botched ordering process from Sprint. In my experience they are not equipped to handle large volume of orders. Hopefully...I am flat wrong For me arguing over the form factor after dealing with Palm, and HTC, Widows mobile, and Android. I feel like I am a man who is offered water after being in the dessert for days and suddenly saying "oh...that water bottle isn't shaped like I expected. I think I'll wait until next year to drink water from a bottle that's prettier". Silly..I know, not a perfect analogy but I am a nurse, not a writer.
I am a macbook user, and an iPad2 user. I just happen to have a Sprint share account so I am stuck with Sprint. I am looking forward to ios5 and an iPhone, no matter what the form factor is. My only concern is the botched ordering process from Sprint. In my experience they are not equipped to handle large volume of orders. Hopefully...I am flat wrong
For me arguing over the form factor after dealing with Palm, and HTC, Widows mobile, and Android. I feel like I am a man who is offered water after being in the dessert for days and suddenly saying "oh...that water bottle isn't shaped like I expected. I think I'll wait until next year to drink water from a bottle that's prettier". Silly..I know, not a perfect analogy but I am a nurse, not a writer.i'm surprised apple isn't still manufacturing the original iphone and selling them for $19.99 in the 3rd world.
Of course... Look at all their other products they rarely change the case design... Mac Book Pro, Mac Pro, even AirPort Extreme!
You destroy Brand by changing it too often! and when you do it needs to be better than what you had before not just different.
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I don't think this merit a full disappoint status umong Apple supporters given latest numbers listing the iPhone 4 at the top selling smartphone in the market. The new offerings will enhance those numbers as time goes on. I think people would be more disappointed if the iPhone 5 was introduced without the aforementioned features with the LTE chips.
I don't think this merit a full disappoint status umong Apple supporters given latest numbers listing the iPhone 4 at the top selling smartphone in the market. The new offerings will enhance those numbers as time goes on. I think people would be more disappointed if the iPhone 5 was introduced without the aforementioned features with the LTE chips.
Of course they care. Every day when they read the letters and emails from disappointed customers, they wipe their tears and blow their noses on a fresh stack of $1000 bills.
This makes a lot sense, actually
Most phone owners are on 2 year contract. If you began on iPhone 4 you might not want to upgrade to the 4s (internal upgrade-external same), but you will be ready for the iPhone 5 (external redesign--internal same(?)).
Similarly, begin on the iPhone 3gs and the 4gs is a major leap.
You can always steal/buy into the other cycle if it intrigues you enough to do so.
This way you are going to touch on each new hardware improvement and/or an iterative improvement depending on if you want to keep on buying phones.
Apple is competing with a ton of manufacturers on very different product roadmap.
I think a predictable product progression is the smart thing to do.
I think the fact that this arrived a little late (should have been in July) contributed greatly to the higher expectations.
Most phone owners are on 2 year contract. If you began on iPhone 4 you might not want to upgrade to the 4s (internal upgrade-external same), but you will be ready for the iPhone 5 (external redesign--internal same(?)).
Similarly, begin on the iPhone 3gs and the 4gs is a major leap.
You can always steal/buy into the other cycle if it intrigues you enough to do so.
This way you are going to touch on each new hardware improvement and/or an iterative improvement depending on if you want to keep on buying phones.
Apple is competing with a ton of manufacturers on very different product roadmap.
I think a predictable product progression is the smart thing to do.
I think the fact that this arrived a little late (should have been in July) contributed greatly to the higher expectations.
This phone is intended for sale to people upgrading from a 3GS or those who don't have an iPhone. It's doubtful that a lot of people in contract with a 4 would have broken their contracts early just to get a 5 no matter how good it was.
The 4 sold well last quarter, even though everyone knew something new was coming. The 4S should still sell well into next year.
I'm sure you are about to follow up with your completed market and cost analysis to prove your assertion. Which multi-billion dollar Fortune 500 company are you running? A complete re-design of the internals is not a minor spec bump. A minor spec bump would be simply changing processors.
Siri will be the selling point of the 4s for me. The only reason I don't use the calendar and such is because I find it all very annoying (Maybe I'm just lazy) to enter everything manually. If the 4S can do all that for me using voice commands while I do other things then i'm sold on the device.
Exactly. I would much rather prefer this method than major redesigns that offer nothing new...or what they offer is a shiny new buggy mess.
Unfortunately I think this is where the Android-powered devices have screwed up everyone's line of thought. There are new Android phones coming out all the time. It seems like every other day I see a commercial for next Droid "iwillcrushyourlastphone" phone that gets people thinking "Wow, I've had the same phone for over a year, I MUST be behind." But, what I've come to like about my iPhone and other Apple products is how well they work and how LONG they stay working well. I had the Motorola Droid 1 and it was crawling a year later. I had very few apps and did far less than I do on my iPhone 4. My iPhone a year later is still running like the day I bought it, with FAR MORE apps, music etc. I want more of that which is why I applaud the way Apple does their thing...and it's why I won't switch back to Android-powered phones any time soon.
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I also want to remind everyone that the steel antenna frame for the iPhone 4S leaked out in January (and to a third party too). That was 9 months ago! https://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/05/next-generation-iphone-parts-caught-on-video/
In other words, assuming Apple's going to release next year's iPhone in September, they should be narrowing design candidates already. And it's this info which is leaking out to the public as what everyone thought would be the "iPhone 5".
In other words, assuming Apple's going to release next year's iPhone in September, they should be narrowing design candidates already. And it's this info which is leaking out to the public as what everyone thought would be the "iPhone 5".
And the iPhone will sell as many as all of them combined!
You know why? None of those run iOS and integrates seamlessly with everything as well as the iPhone.
iPhone 4s
iPhone 4S = Much ado about nothing
Don't waste your time people, just wait for the next model.
iPhone 4S = Much ado about nothing
Don't waste your time people, just wait for the next model.