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Absinthe 2.0 Brings Untethered Jailbreak to iOS 5.1.1 Devices Including New iPad

Renzatic, thank you for your reply. My situation is a tad more complex than what you suggest. I do indeed dislike the walled garden and it's many limitations. But at the same time, I am most certainly not a lover of Linux or the OS X Terminal. Like I said, I've had a love affair with desktop Macs since the first Mac came out. And when one compares the Mac to an iPad, the Mac clearly offers more freedom. I want a little more freedom without taking too many risks, and without creating a new set of hassles for myself when it comes to iOS updates.

So in light of this, is jailbreaking really not for me?
(Please know I do not ask this to be argumentative. Simply want to see if there are any persuasive arguments that can convince me to jailbreak.)
 
Renzatic said:
The best way I can describe it is that it makes the iPad feel a lot like a user friendly Linux distro, with all the pluses and minuses you usually come across while goofing around in Linux land. Hell, it's even got a terminal in there you can play with. If this sounds like your cup of tea, then yeah, go for it. Jailbreak like a straight up mofo.
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I thought this would be the case until I tried it. First thing I noticed was all of the ads that pop up all over the Cydia store, and in many of the "extensions."

I was thinking this was done for the "cause" and sure wasn't expecting all of these ads. Reminded me too much of the Android platform. I understand some things are sold in the Cydia store, which is fine, but I had rather pay for something than deal with ads. Usually when ads are involved, privacy goes out the window too.

It was interesting to see, but I don't think it's for me. No offense to those who enjoy this sort of thing...
 
StyxMaker said:
I just viewed the 'Fold to Unlock' You Tube video. It seems to have no advantage over the normal unlock screen, what's the point?
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That was my reaction too. It seems to be just eye candy, with no added functionality. Not that there's anything wrong with eye candy, but it's hardly a compelling reason to jailbreak, compared to things like Zephyr, Quasar, FolderEnhancer, iBlacklist, PDANet, SBSettings, Activator, etc, which actually add very useful functionality that can't be had through Apple's official channels.
 
JDW said:
Renzatic, thank you for your reply. My situation is a tad more complex than what you suggest. I do indeed dislike the walled garden and it's many limitations. But at the same time, I am most certainly not a lover of Linux or the OS X Terminal. Like I said, I've had a love affair with desktop Macs since the first Mac came out. And when one compares the Mac to an iPad, the Mac clearly offers more freedom. I want a little more freedom without taking too many risks, and without creating a new set of hassles for myself when it comes to iOS updates.

So in light of this, is jailbreaking really not for me?
(Please know I do not ask this to be argumentative. Simply want to see if there are any persuasive arguments that can convince me to jailbreak.)
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I think a jailbroken iPhone is a lot closer to OS X than Linux. I say this as someone who used Linux exclusively at home for about 12 years, and then stopped finding the extra fiddling and maintenance I needed to do fun, and have switched to Macs for the last 5 or 6 years, though I still use Terminal a lot. So I like things to be simple and "just work" now. I have found there is really no downside to jailbreaking except that jailbreaks usually lag behind iOS updates by anywhere from a few weeks to a few months. However even that isn't really a big deal, because it's not as if jailbreaking is a fast moving train that you can't jump off. If a new major iOS update comes out with some compelling features that you just can't wait to use, then you can always just upgrade and lose your jailbreak functionality until a jailbreak comes out for the new version. Other than that I haven't seen any hassles associated with jailbreaking. The process is pretty much painless, and my phone is just as reliable when jailbroken. Most of the jailbreaks don't even require restoring. This most recent one recommends that, but it's really mostly an unattended process. Just hit restore in iTunes and come back in an hour or so and your phone/ipad is restored. It's also completely reversible. So I'd say give it a try and see if some of the features you can get are compelling enough to make you want to keep it.
 
Yeah, to add onto what's been said for folks that don't have any experience with jailbreaking...

A jailbroken iDevice is going to act pretty much like the unjailbroken iDevice. If you jailbreak it, and then don't install any extra packages, your device will look and act exactly like it always has - the only difference is you'll now have a new app called "Cydia" on one of your springboard screens.

Jailbreaking your device won't generally affect how any of your "legitimate" apps function at all. However there have been a couple instances where a particular jailbreak affects some functionality - so I usually like to wait a couple weeks before updating to a new jailbroken version of iOS. As with OS X, I like to let other people be my beta testers. :D
 
JDW said:
So in light of this, is jailbreaking really not for me?
(Please know I do not ask this to be argumentative. Simply want to see if there are any persuasive arguments that can convince me to jailbreak.)
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I'll give you a tentative yeah then. To me, the pros outweigh the cons. Even though I won't be able to grab the latest iOS update as soon as it's released, this is offset by the fact that jailbreaking gives you access to tons more capability enhancing apps. iOS 6 might be sporting a few awesome must-have features that everyone is drooling over, but it won't matter much to you because you've probably been playing with something very similar for the last few months.

Plus you can play Maniac Mansion.

But say you jailbreak and end up not liking it. All this extra freedom is weighed down by the fact that some of the apps are more than a little buggy, and having to keep a careful eye on what you install, specially when it comes to all the UI enhancements. You end up preferring the more fire and forget, don't worry about it environment the walled garden provides.

Well, the only thing you'll ultimately end up losing is the time it takes to restore. As long as you did a complete backup beforehand, the only thing standing between you and the default iOS experience are a few of clicks and an hour or so wait. Unless your time is at an absolute premium, that's not too big of a deal.

I say go for it.
 
Westside guy said:
Yeah, to add onto what's been said for folks that don't have any experience with jailbreaking...

A jailbroken iDevice is going to act pretty much like the unjailbroken iDevice. If you jailbreak it, and then don't install any extra packages, your device will look and act exactly like it always has - the only difference is you'll now have a new app called "Cydia" on one of your springboard screens.

Jailbreaking your device won't generally affect how any of your "legitimate" apps function at all. However there have been a couple instances where a particular jailbreak affects some functionality - so I usually like to wait a couple weeks before updating to a new jailbroken version of iOS. As with OS X, I like to let other people be my beta testers. :D
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VERY SMART !

I Jailbreak all the time.

Listen to this guy folks. He's 100% correct.
 
Westside guy said:
A jailbroken iDevice is going to act pretty much like the unjailbroken iDevice. If you jailbreak it, and then don't install any extra packages, your device will look and act exactly like it always has - the only difference is you'll now have a new app called "Cydia" on one of your springboard screens.
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iOS 5 made that not quite true. Jailbroken devices can't receive OTA iOS updates, which are delta updates and therefore much smaller and faster to install. Jailbreakers must download the entire operating system every time, and it's several hundred megabytes.

Also, the additional background software that comprises a jailbreak (even with nothing from Cydia installed) inherently consumes additional resources. For lower-end devices like the iPod touch or iPhone 3GS, that can be a issue. I speak from experience as the owner of a 4th gen iPod touch. When jailbroken, I never had more than 30MB of RAM free (usually ~16MB) and the device was noticeably laggy, but now that I'm not 117MB free is common. I kept my JB tweaks to a minimum but it was still too much.

Other than those two caveats, your post is correct.
 
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That's a good point, Slinkwyde - it may not be obvious to new jailbreakers that they generally need to change their behavior with regards to iOS updates. That's certainly something to factor in when deciding to jailbreak.

I haven't really noticed any perceptible performance changes with my iPhone 3GS... although I'm still currently on iOS 4.1, not 5.x. It sounds like 5.x can be a resource hog.

Oh! That is an additional benefit to jailbreaking - it may give you the ability to "downgrade" to an earlier iOS version (this only works for some devices, like my 3GS). This means I can try iOS 5.1.1, and if I don't like it... I can go back to 4.1. Note it's not possible to downgrade to a version that came before your first jailbreak - so if you've never jailbroken before, you might be able to roll back to 5.1.1 in the future - but not to 5.0 or 4.3 or whatever.
 
thefourthpope said:
That's what interests me. I'd like to tether my iPad to my iPhone. Question: Do I need to jb both, or just the iPad?

I had iPhone 1 jb'd and really enjoyed the tweaks even back then. I'm excited to see what's been cooked up in the last 4-5 years!
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Just would just need to jailbreak your iPhone. After that install TetherMe from Cydia. I recomend TetherMe because it uses the stock tethering settings which is really easy to use!! Don't get scared thinking they might find out but the TetherMe solution hides the usage.
After that create a hotspot with password and on your iPad choose it like you would any wifi network!!
There's lots of cool tweaks that you can install with cydia you just gotta look up YouTube videos on tweaks!!
Hope that helps!!

(also I see someone commenting about ATT finding out but so far I've heard of noone getting caught)
 
FYI... For Unlocked iPhones on 5.1/5.1.1 that cannot receive picture messages via text. This is the only reason I have JB.


Per TMobile,

iphone picture message

Important: This fix only applies to unauthorized unlocks (Jailbreaking). Only use this solution if the customer has already unlocked their iPhone and installed the Cydia application on their own.

*

Add a new source and package to the Cydia application on the iPhone, by following these steps:

*

Open the Cydia application then select the Manage Tab at the bottom of the screen.
From the Manage Tab select Sources.

Select Edit at the top right hand corner then select Add in the top left corner.
Type the one of the following into the prompt:
http://beta.leimobile.com/repo
http://cydia.pushfix.info
Select Add Source.
This will add the new source to your list of Sources.
Tap the the source you added in step 4 then scroll and select the T-Mobile US MMS fix, T-Mobile MMS Fix or T-Mobile Internet Fix.
Select Install in the top right hand corner.
Then select Confirm in the top right corner.
Once it is done installing reboot the phone.
Important: If the device is using a tethered unlock, it must be reconnected to the computer it was unlock from. T-Mobile CANNOT offer support for unlocking an iPhone.
After the phone powers back on, from the main screen go to Settings, General, Network, Cellular Data Network.
Enter epc.tmobile.com into the APN field under MMS. The rest of the information for the MMSC, MMS Proxy, MMS Max Message Size, and MMS UA Prof URL should already be entered by the package we installed earlier.
At this point MMS should be functioning correctly on this iPhone. Test it by sending an mms to the phone from a test device.
This should only have to be installed the one time to fix this issue. There will be no need to continue to install this package again.


--
Jamie
Tier 3 PDA/UMA Tech Support
Customer Service Technical Care


This is a T-Mobile test email account.* This account is not meant for correspondence and is not monitored, it is only used for testing.* If you have any questions or concerns regarding your T-Mobile account or device, please*contact T-Mobile Customer Care @ 1-800-937-8997 during hours of 6am-1am EST,*thank you.
 
Renzatic & bilboa, thank you for the experienced feedback. Please forgive me but I have one final question for you. You say a jailbroken iPad is the same as a stock iPad in the case where no unsanctioned apps (other than Cydia) are installed. Understood. But what happens if I put all manner of unapproved apps and hacks on my jailbroken iPad and then perform an iTunes backup? Will everything backup and restore perfectly if I wipe my iPad? Or does a successful restore of jailbroken apps depend on whether the iPad is still jailbroken when I do the restore?

Also, if I have a jailbroken iPad and lots of unsanctioned apps installed, would I need to backup and wipe the iPad before I could do a future update to iOS 6? If so, assuming I performed a Restore From Backup on that non-jailbroken iOS 6, would everything be restored except my jailbroken apps? Is that how backup/restore will work?

Many thanks.
 
EliCsuf said:
FYI... For Unlocked iPhones on 5.1/5.1.1 that cannot receive picture messages via text. This is the only reason I have JB.
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Not true anymore. You don't have to jailbreak your factory unlocked iPhone to be able to send and receive text messages.

Backup your iPhone.

Download and install iBackupBot-for-Mac.pkg, then use it to edit com.apple.mms_override.plist, which should then look like this:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>MMS</key>
<dict>
<key>GroupModeEnabled</key>
<false/>
<key>MMSC</key>
<string>http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc</string>
<key>MaxMessageSize</key>
<integer>1048576</integer>
<key>MaxRecipients</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>MaxVideoBitrate</key>
<integer>131072</integer>
<key>Proxy</key>
<string>216.155.165.50:8080</string>
<key>UAProf</key>
<string>http://www.apple.com/mms/uaprof.rdf</string>
<key>UserAgent</key>
<string>SonyEricssonW800i/R1L</string>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>
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Save, and then restore your iPhone.
 
iPad 1 Speed

Is there an app that over-clocks/speeds up the A4 processor on the iPad 1? I know of FakeClockUp, but have heard it's nothing great. Thanks!
 
I just installed this JB on a GSM iPhone 4, with 5.1.1 (9B206) OTA updated version, without clearing the settings first. It worked like a charm.
 
Finally.

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deannnnn said:
I jailbroke my iPhone 1 and iPhone 3G... but the benefits just don't outweigh the risks anymore.
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I used to think that too, but then I discovered Mobile Terminal and all of the Nintendo emulators. That made it sooo worth it.

I have an iPhone 1 that my brother found in an ewaste recycling bin. I had to jailbreak it to get it to even work without the SIM. Then I installed ALL THE HACKS on it :D
 
speedylomeli said:
jail breaking is becoming obsolete. Why? because there are no benefits.
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Once they separated jailbreak and unlock the excitement and claim to victory was lost IMO .. They rush to bring the newest Jail Break without the unlock because it's a quick short lived victory..

There is STILL a need for unlock .. swinging for the fence is a thing of the past.. :(
 
:mad:Why do we need to jailbreak? It just breaks or phone, makes it impossible to sync with your computer, makes you device laggy, and all for a little custimization. If you wanted that garbage, you should not have bought an iPhone.
 
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