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It is all in the hype !

Apple can now say they have 'sold out' and that the product is an amazing success (without giving actual numbers)...

People always come up with this crap at every launch. Do you really think, given their PUBLIC sales numbers since 2007, that they need to pull something like what you're suggesting? Grow up.
 
I think the whole idea has always been to limit the number of New Yorkers (Bostonians, DCers, Miamians, etc.) who are willing to stay up and place that order in the first few minutes, so that servers aren't too overloaded. (Making things tough, but not quite as tough, for Chicago, Denver, and L.A. then comes as part of the bargain.) The Eastern Time Zone is just the one that makes the most sense to suppress, and 3 a.m. is right around the sweet spot for making things difficult for first-day customers.

Going forward, though—and perhaps with the Watch more than any other product—the above might not be the case anymore. How long until the numbers from Hong Kong/Shanghai/Beijing/etc. (UTC +8:00, 4:01 p.m. for the to-date standard launch) swamp the U.S. East Coast? Will Cupertino start introducing products at 11:00 a.m. or noon Pacific on launch days, in order to stick China with the 3 or 4 a.m. opening?

Excellent points. I understand what you are saying and it makes perfect sense.
 
seriously, this could be one of the worst managed launches Apple has ever done.

OK genius, how would you manage the logistics of a world wide introduction, manufacture, sale and shipping of a brand new product?

It's almost as difficult as sitting behind a keyboard and whining without consequences...
 
I think the launch was overal pretty good. It took me 45 minutes to preorder my iPhone on launch day. It took two minutes this time around, most of the time me wondering if I should take AppleCare (took it)

They probably introduced the date range because a firm date probably bit them in the ass with iPhones and they learned their lesson.

I'm a little disappointed I can't pick up in store, but I'm really hoping to receive it launch day

If anything, their mistake was releasing it in so many countries simultaneously
 
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The supply was definitely low, but website wise I wouldn't call that the worst launch in Apple's history.
 
Its really simple
Apple tries to make as many watches as soon as possible and sell as many as soon as possible.
The problem arises because they are constrained by yields and manufacturing limits
on one side of the equation and consumer demand on the other. If you need a smart watch urgently get a Samsung they have no demand issues so they are always available.

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Also, for those that say supply was low; the exact same unsubstantiated hogwash was pontificated on these forums with the iPhone 6 launch remember?
Do you remember that Apple sold the most iPhones over that weekend compared to any previous iPhone launch?

Bottom line nobody on this forum has any idea of what Apple's supply levels are!
 
If pre-orders are larger than Apple anticipated they will focus more on increasing production. From my experience I have almost always gotten things earlier than Apple's estimates.

I think they undersell in that department....Which I think is good. If they give you earlier estimates and can't deliver it would piss you off more.

That's what I'm hoping too. And if I think about it, iPhone 6 launch went into the same direction as well. (I got it about 1-2 weeks earlier than the estimate).
 
That's what I'm hoping too. And if I think about it, iPhone 6 launch went into the same direction as well. (I got it about 1-2 weeks earlier than the estimate).

Yeah I am keeping my fingers crossed for the rest of you. Since I set my alarm for a 2:45 wake-up just for this I hope I get mine on the 24th of April. I was so excited I couldn't get back to sleep. ;)
 
plenty of people got orders in time and will be receiving there watches on launch day. Sorry you weren't one of them. Apple has been saying since the march event to add the one you want as a favorite that way you can order as soon as the store comes online. It sounds like you didn't do this.

the rMB says it will ship in 1-3 business days....

I didn't want to buy anything, and yes I had favorites saved. I was really quick (has always worked when purchasing iPhones on day one in the first minute), but today in Germany it was different.
 
This launch is different than every other launch that I can remember because the watches are already in store and out in the wild. There's no longer a sense of secrecy. So what would Apple stand to gain by forcing its delivery partners (FedEx, etc) to wait until 4/24?

Like I said, not expecting anything earlier than 4/24. But just seems like it would be kind of pointless at this point to delay delivery, unless I am missing something.
 
Yeah, I'll know better next time.


Now I will defend myself, I didn't want to stoop this low but you leave me no choice. You WERE too slow, if you had ordered at 3:02 for instance you would of beat the person who ordered at 3:03. You were either too late, or took too much time deciding on what you wanted or didn't click fast enough. So yes you DO have yourself to blame, which is why people like myself got ours with the earliest shipping window because we were prepared. This isn't a supply issue, and this isn't Apples fault. This is suvival of the fittest, and I will no longer creep my way around it, especially when being attacked from all fronts.

Sorry mate, gang up on me all you like, the truth will always hurt.
 
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Its really simple
Apple tries to make as many watches as soon as possible and sell as many as soon as possible.
The problem arises because they are constrained by yields and manufacturing limits on one side of the equation and consumer demand on the other. If you need a smart watch urgently get a Samsung they have no demand issues so they are always available.

No argument there, but...

Also, for those that say supply was low; the exact same unsubstantiated hogwash was pontificated on these forums with the iPhone 6 launch remember?

I dunno—at this point it seems pretty hard to dispute that the supply (at least of particular popular Watch configurations) was low. Not necessarily inexcusably low, or (as one recurring conspiracy theory has it) artificially low. Just low.

Indeed, low supply at this point in the product cycle might even be consistent with the maximum long-term profit potential of the product. It would be a bad idea to ramp up production like crazy to make sure that the first-day demand surge can be met, only to see demand inevitably fall off somewhat after that surge and thus have units go unsold and/or factories wastefully stand idle. Bringing supply and demand into parity more smoothly over time is a better idea economically, and that's true without any basis in silly ideas like building hype via artificial scarcity... or whatever.

All that said, the fact that plenty of folks who ordered a matter of hours or even minutes after the opening bell this morning are now being told that they may need to wait until June to get their watch seems clear evidence of low supply to me.
 
Now I will defend myself, I didn't want to stoop this low but you leave me no choice. You WERE too slow, if you had ordered at 3:02 for instance you would of beat the person who ordered at 3:03. You were either too late, or took too much time deciding on what you wanted or didn't click fast enough. So yes you DO have yourself to blame, which is why people like myself got ours with the earliest shipping window because we were prepared. This isn't a supply issue, and this isn't Apples fault. This is suvival of the fittest, and I will no longer creep my way around it, especially when being attacked from all fronts.

Sorry mate, gang up on me all you like, the truth will always hurt.

My feelings are hurt now, let me go into my corner and cry my eyes out.
 
Apple should really reconsider these 12:01 am (PST) launch time for WORLDWIDE ONLINE purchase. They are favouring oversea orders, and making it really hard for their own US of A customers, particularly those on EST.

I understand the rationale was to pick a time with least amount of internet traffic, and so the server can handle the orders more smoothly. However, when it is a world-wide launch, this argument is moot.

How does it favor oversea orders? Everyone starts at the same time. If if rolled by time zone then EST, CST, and on west would really have something to complain about.
 
How does it favor oversea orders? Everyone starts at the same time. If if rolled by time zone then EST, CST, and on west would really have something to complain about.
Also, each country has its own allocation anyway so it does not matter if everyone buys at the same time.

In reality, Apple is making it EASIER for the hardcore fans to buy in the US when it uses unsocial launch times. If you were ordering at 9am you'd also be fighting the casual users who would never bother to get up at 3am.
 
My order went very smoothly, unlike for the 6 Plus. Opened up the Apple Store app on my iPad and chose the Sport SG 42mm and then it scanned my fingerprint and that was it. Back to sleep at 3:02am.
 
NO WATCHES IN STOCK IN STORES ON LAUNCH DAY.
Make excuses all you want, but how is that not a bad launch?
 
NO WATCHES IN STOCK IN STORES ON LAUNCH DAY.
Make excuses all you want, but how is that not a bad launch?

No excuses, this watch is a different animal. It's part fashion retail, just look at the comments here, they reference looks as much as function, if not more so...
 
No excuses, this watch is a different animal. It's part fashion retail, just look at the comments here, they reference looks as much as function, if not more so...
Ah, I see. So if its fashion you don't need stock on launch day for something you've announced 7 months ago?
 
NO WATCHES IN STOCK IN STORES ON LAUNCH DAY.
Make excuses all you want, but how is that not a bad launch?

Mixing pre-orders and in-store has always been sketchy because you have some people who have to wait 2 weeks only to wait another 6 and then others who get luck (or camp out all night) and get one on launch day.

I think it is a far better idea to have one line, everyone get in it. Having them in store is like all the separate lines at the grocery where you try to guess which one is the shortest. It is maddening and less efficient than a single line.
 
Ah, I see. So if its fashion you don't need stock on launch day for something you've announced 7 months ago?

Don't be obtuse. This is a better way of managing production to meet demand.

Too many tech buyers refuse to think about logistics. They think these devices are easy to design, build and distribute across the board. As if Jony Ive's gets an idea, and all it takes to produce a working, reliable product is for him to take a dump and so it can fall out of his arse...
 
LOL exactly. 5000? lmao. I had my preorder in 4 minutes after it went live and got a 4/24-5/8 ship date.

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I'm in CST and just stayed up till 2am.

It would be nice if they made it a more reasonable hour.

Okay, if it is a more reasonable hour for CST then what time zone do you suggest get the unreasonable hour? It is only fair that all time zones launch simultaneously, so who do you think should lose sleep?
 
Mixing pre-orders and in-store has always been sketchy because you have some people who have to wait 2 weeks only to wait another 6 and then others who get luck (or camp out all night) and get one on launch day.

I think it is a far better idea to have one line, everyone get in it. Having them in store is like all the separate lines at the grocery where you try to guess which one is the shortest. It is maddening and less efficient than a single line.

Sure, if you have enough stock, but this is just a joke :)
Announced 7 months ago, Space Black ships in June for everyone. Why?
 
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