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The only people losing out here are the record labels.

Artists get most of their money from live shows any way, so they aren't too bothered.

The iTunes Store only exists to provide content for the iPod, but people are shopping around now, and yet the iPod's market share continues to grow.

It's the record labels who need people to spend more money on music, and yet they go and screw us over with random price changes and making us look everywhere for the best deals... Well screw them, I used to buy loads from iTunes, now I just use the pirate bay.

Who's getting screwed over now, dickfaces?

Um, you will be with lawsuits when the RIAA catches you, and your ISP turns you in. Good luck with that. What's better $1.29 for a song or a$2,323,435,421,423.00 lawsuit? Not to mention when they take your computer and find all the other pirated stuff you got on there. You'll be in over your head. Will they catch you?...probably not. Is all this worth it IF they do? HELL NO they could charge $1.99 per song, I'd pay it w/o question.
 
Bad Move

The lure of the .99 song is what made iTunes (and legal downloads) so popular.

How is it that the record companies feel safe removing DRM and jacking the price in the same move? They're not the brightest bunch are they?
 
Normally that would be a valid, if cheap, excuse. But isn't there effectively no inflation at the moment?

ok, well why does gas keep going up at the pump while crude by the barrel goes down? it's a game, you better get used to playing it, esp. while we have obama the bama in the whitehouse....but that's for another forum.
 
The lure of the .99 song is what made iTunes (and legal downloads) so popular.

How is it that the record companies feel safe removing DRM and jacking the price in the same move? They're not the brightest bunch are they?

Well I guess that's the price itunes users have to pay for having drm free songs. The majority of the songs are still 99 cents at least for me, with the rest being .69 or 1.29. It ain't that bad.
 
Music Videos

I upgraded to the new version of iTunes today hoping everything would be iTunes Plus - but it's not! Looking through the Top 100 Music Videos there is still a significant number that are not iTunes Plus. Does anyone know when all music videos are going to be iTunes Plus?
 
Some songs Record companies wants $1.29 Apple does not like it
Apple wants $0.69 for some songs Record companies does not like it

so middle ground will be $0.99

it is win win situation for Apple and record companines

Losers: customers!
 
Normally that would be a valid, if cheap, excuse. But isn't there effectively no inflation at the moment?

Apparently, we're experiencing stagflation at the moment.

"a period of slow economic growth and high unemployment (stagnation) while prices rise (inflation)"

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
 
Um, you will be with lawsuits when the RIAA catches you, and your ISP turns you in. Good luck with that. What's better $1.29 for a song or a$2,323,435,421,423.00 lawsuit? Not to mention when they take your computer and find all the other pirated stuff you got on there. You'll be in over your head. Will they catch you?...probably not. Is all this worth it IF they do? HELL NO they could charge $1.99 per song, I'd pay it w/o question.

lol. The RIAA only operates in america. And the BPI only focus on heavy uploaders, and even then my ISP has signed no agreements with the BPI to turn over filesharers, unlike other shoddy companies (cough virgin media). And furthermore, I download nowhere near enough stuff to even get noticed, literally one album a month, if that, and even if I did get noticed:

The action is actually going to be less harsh than was first expected. Earlier this year, when the plans were being discussed, it seemed that the ISPs would have to abide by a strict ‘three strikes and you’re out’ policy, but in actual fact, all that will happen is the delivery of two warning letters to those suspected of sharing copyrighted material over the ISP’s network.

Yes, I would stop if I received a warning letter, but I know plenty of people who download a hell of a lot more, and are probably heavy seeders also, something I don't partake in at all.

Anyway, I'm not being all self-righteous "screw you guys paying for things", because even now I will pay to download songs every now and then from my iPod touch, I'm just saying, they need to entice me more, and stop being douches if they want me to buy stuff.

By the way, so you know, I just rented Ocean's Eleven from iTunes because it's 99p, and I've always wanted to see it. It's far faster than downloading a film over bittorrent, and also far easier, because there's no converting necessary. I wouldn't have payed money for this otherwise. This is the kind of thing that will keep me spending money, because pirates just can't compete.
 
Or else what? lol

The record companies have wanted to raise the price of songs on iTunes for years. The only reason Apple caved was the record companies finally got Apple over a barrel (no pun intended). The record companies refused to license their songs to Apple for download over the air (so long iPhone and iPod touch) unless Apple agreed to variable pricing on the iTunes store. And for Apple's future plans, that's a huge issue.

And, by the way, the .69 price is pure BS and the record companies know it. If they couldn't sell a crappy song for .99, selling it at .69 isn't going to make it sound any better. I haven't found a single song in my library selling today for .69. Have you?

well you have a different look at the situation. I think Apple was the aggressor and put the music industry over the barrel, not the other way around. Getting rid of DRM was huge...People forget very quickly huh. Purchasing over the phone or ipod touch could be huge (in the future).
 
Just go to Amazon.com!

Everything is still just $0.99 or $0.89...

Songs from the 70s and 80s are now selling for $1.29 on iTunes. It's ridiculous considering Amazon has the same songs, DRM free, for cheaper. Everyone should just switch to Amazon and send the record companies a message.

That wouldn't exactly have the effect you are looking for. The record companies want to give Amazon the advantage, to decrease the market power of iTunes.
 
That wouldn't exactly have the effect you are looking for. The record companies want to give Amazon the advantage, to decrease the market power of iTunes.

This is true, the simplest way to send them a message is to buy your songs from the cheapest place. For every song, shop around (Play, Amazon, iTunes), and buy the cheapest. They'll see that them trying to give certain stores advantages doesn't work, because people don't care where they buy from, they will just buy the cheapest songs.

What they want is people all on one store, and for them to have full control over that store to charge the maximum possible for each song. But it won't work, because that one store will realise it has the advantage, and start playing hard ball with the record industry.
 
Variable pricing does suck, but I have one question to ask everyone who is so upset:

Why is it ok that Software writers can charge whatever they want on the app store, but the labels/independant artists can't?

Sure, I'll be shoppin' on Amazon now, and think that these new pricing structures suck, but still... why is it that app writers can charge anything they want but the labels can't? Seems unbalanced to me.

w00master
 
How artists get paid

The only people losing out here are the record labels.

Artists get most of their money from live shows any way, so they aren't too bothered.

Absolutely not true. Try reading "All You Need to Know About the Music Business" by Don Passman, and you'll be enlightened. Royalties are crutial to the artists.
 
Please, if you want to riot, don't riot in front of Apple HQ, bring your pitchforks to the HQ of record labels.

Apple is only a messenger in this. The pricing decision is all made by record labels.
 
Absolutely not true. Try reading "All You Need to Know About the Music Business" by Don Passman, and you'll be enlightened. Royalties are crutial to the artists.

Oh it's a book, can you just give me the gist? Also, you misspelt "crucial"
 
It's happening on Amazon too!

Im surprised no one has noticed, but it appears to be happening on Amazon too, not as many as Apple, but 10 songs in the top 100 at Amazon are $1.29, I haven't looked around to see what else is $1.29, but Im sure there are more. Just the beginning Im sure...

amazon.jpg
 
We'll probably never see a $0.69 song. They probably only announced it to keep flaming to a minimum.

Well, there certianly are some, the number just seems to be tiny. There are a couple lists linked from the main page of the iTunes store. It looks like there are a bunch of artists where they have exactly ONE song from that artist at $.69 and the rest are $.99 or more, pretty lame and it sure looks like they are trying to get away with as few at that price as possible.

At the announcement, Apple promised there would be far more songs at $.69 than $1.29 - is there any way to search the database and find out how many there are at those two price points?

Let the dust settle a bit.
I remember reading that for every $1.29 song, iTunes will carry ten .69 songs.

I don't know if they promised that specifically, but they definitely said way more at $.69. They better get close to that at the beginning, or they are going to get savaged by customers and the media.

I'm certainly not going to pay $1.29 for anything. And now that the $.69 price point is out there, it's hard to justify paying even $.99 for something that is old.
 
Just go to Amazon.com!
Everyone should just switch to Amazon and send the record companies a message.

Send them a message? Don't you realize that that the record companies would like nothing more than to break the near monopoly of the Apple Music Store and their main motivation in forcing Apple to raise prices is to do just that. They want Amazon and other music stores to succeed so they can force more concessions from Apple. Switching to Amazon is exactly what they want you to do!
 
I don't know if they promised that specifically, but they definitely said way more at $.69. They better get close to that at the beginning, or they are going to get savaged by customers and the media.

It was definitely said:

Perhaps anticipating a consumer backlash against price increases executives, who spoke to Reuters on background ahead of the launch, pointed out that for every one song they raise to $1.29 they will be reducing 10 songs to 69 cents.

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2009/04/reuters_us_apple_itunes

I'm guessing they'll add them slowly. There was probably a lot more pressure from the label to update the prices of the higher tier tracks.
 
Im surprised no one has noticed, but it appears to be happening on Amazon too, not as many as Apple, but 10 songs in the top 100 at Amazon are $1.29, I haven't looked around to see what else is $1.29, but Im sure there are more. Just the beginning Im sure...

amazon.jpg

What did I say, there is no way they could be getting it for that cheap, and I don't think they would be selling the music at a loss.
 
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