My point is, spare us the faux "Apple angers me, and that anger is making me not want to buy Apple stuff" outrage when everyone here is fully aware that your purchasing criteria, in priority order, are 1) free, 2) cheap.
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My point is, spare us the faux "Apple angers me, and that anger is making me not want to buy Apple stuff" outrage when everyone here is fully aware that your purchasing criteria, in priority order, are 1) free, 2) cheap.
Only ignorant people pay list price for things that are available for much less. Only disingenuous people quote those prices on a message board.
I think my problem is that Apple's products don't fill me with the same gratification like they once did.
I want to like them. I like OS X, its paradigms, and like I've said before the general purpose applications are endearing to me.
Apple over the years is just not inspiring me to spend money on what they sell. Apple just feels empty now and boring.
I think it's hilarious that people pay full retail for Apple products.
Right, that really addressed my question.
. If the recording industry didn't care what platform they used or how it looked they could easily find a PC just as capable as a Mac Pro as most Windows fanboys here so humbly remind us here.You didn't address my question because you couldn't, you just gave an answer in which I call BS.
Do you have an MVP discount code I can use? Thx.
You also think it's hilarious that people pay for books, music, and videos (and likely a long list of other things).
Ever get tired of this one?
What's wrong with getting Apple's products for less that full retail price?
Also, it does seem to wound you that I don't pay for books, CDs, or DVDs.
I don't give a flying fig what you pay for. It's just amusing you would argue about Apple pricing (retail or otherwise) when it's clear that anything with any price at all is a real bee in your bonnet.
Again, the faux outrage over Apple pricing falls flat given your history (sadly, I'm not aware of anyone who gives away free hardware, and it's not yet easily duplicatable from the local library's resources - better get working on that Replicator...).
Frugality is much more gratifying currently than consumption. However if there does happen to be a time where I do decide to purchase an Apple product. It sure as hell isn't going to be at full retail price.
Its because of issues like this is why I've moved away from web development - it seemed like every time you turned around, another browser popped up and every one of them rendered your code differently. It was maddening! I wouldn't care, but some of the browsers rendered things so differently, I had to double-check I was looking at the same file in both browsers...
I prefer doing print work now...its so much less frustrating.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Apple who declared the floppy drive dead when the iMac came out? Just sayin...
I prefer doing print work now...its so much less frustrating.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Apple who declared the floppy drive dead when the iMac came out? Just sayin...
Yes. Apple does charge a premium for it's products over say Dell. However I have no problem paying it. Here's why:
In this day and age, it seems like every corporation I deal with goes out of their way to be frustrating or unfair. For example, when I bought CS2 years ago from Adobe, they would not talk to me over the phone 2 months later without charging me $50 to fix a problem because cs3 had just come out.
Here are my experiences with Apple. My fiancé was having a problem getting spore to run on her MBP and I had spent hours dealing with it and had gotten no where. I was so frustrated we showed up at the apple store with no appointment that day hoping for some help. The first thing the did was took her disk,which she had bought at Best Buy years ago, and gave her the newer version shrink-wrapped off the shelf, no questions asked. The they let us hang out there while it installed for an hour to make sure it worked.
Another experience. We had just gotten iPhones and every time she sinked, she got some weird error and I didn't have time to look at it. So she to it to an Apple store. The error was because she didn't have iPhoto installed for whatever reason. So they actually gave her a free copy of the entire iLife suite as an apology for her frustration and fixed her problem.
Yes, a base model Apple laptop will cost you more than an "equivalent" Dell. However, you get what you pay for. And you know what, if you don't want to pay full retail price there'd is always refurb and eBay used.
The fact is, those are my experiences with Apple. We all make life decisions based on past experiences. If someone else does not like Apple products, that is their own choice.
Apple's philosophy may not be to try to be the first company to support multiple tasking on their phones, or the first ones to have the i core Chips in their notebooks. But they do try to make sure you have the bested user experience.
They are not blocking Flash on these devices for no reason. The fact is, Flash is VERY buggy and it would kill battery life. So it would destroy the end user experience. The problem is not Apple. If Adobe wants it supported, they need to get it fixed.
In this day and age, it seems like every corporation I deal with goes out of their way to be frustrating or unfair. For example, when I bought CS2 years ago from Adobe, they would not talk to me over the phone 2 months later without charging me $50 to fix a problem because cs3 had just come out.
Here are my experiences with Apple. My fiancé was having a problem getting spore to run on her MBP and I had spent hours dealing with it and had gotten no where. I was so frustrated we showed up at the apple store with no appointment that day hoping for some help. The first thing the did was took her disk,which she had bought at Best Buy years ago, and gave her the newer version shrink-wrapped off the shelf, no questions asked. The they let us hang out there while it installed for an hour to make sure it worked.
Another experience. We had just gotten iPhones and every time she sinked, she got some weird error and I didn't have time to look at it. So she to it to an Apple store. The error was because she didn't have iPhoto installed for whatever reason. So they actually gave her a free copy of the entire iLife suite as an apology for her frustration and fixed her problem.
Yes, a base model Apple laptop will cost you more than an "equivalent" Dell. However, you get what you pay for. And you know what, if you don't want to pay full retail price there'd is always refurb and eBay used.
The fact is, those are my experiences with Apple. We all make life decisions based on past experiences. If someone else does not like Apple products, that is their own choice.
Apple's philosophy may not be to try to be the first company to support multiple tasking on their phones, or the first ones to have the i core Chips in their notebooks. But they do try to make sure you have the bested user experience.
They are not blocking Flash on these devices for no reason. The fact is, Flash is VERY buggy and it would kill battery life. So it would destroy the end user experience. The problem is not Apple. If Adobe wants it supported, they need to get it fixed.
OK - but $180 for full retail version (not upgrade).
If you need the full version - still far less than the $320 that was quoted.
As communication gets more interactive it's the enthusiast that gets carried away with whats happening because technology never moves at a constant.
To be honest, I wish I could just close my eyes and never read a tech article for 2 years and come back and see what's new just so I can be mesmerized by what has happened.
I think I'll start tomorrow.
besides craigslist where can you find a cheaper mbp 15 3ghz if not ordering at applestore?
no ebay please
i would like to know
thanks
That sounds like an endeavor worth taking.
Thankfully I just asked a girl out and she was rather surprised. I plan on spending much more time with her rather than on here.
Adobe Flash used on Apple's Mobile Me website
Well, the title is self-explanatory. I smell hypocrisy and tons of it.
I'm making a website with Rapidweaver. It's a great application. It's powerful, it's versatile and there are some really good Flash plug-ins for it. But where Flash really succeeds is not just with games and video, but stylish websites that ordinary people can build in no time, with even less coding experience that I have. Why is that a problem that people are having fun?
Apple's idea of fun is getting pretty poor. There is iWeb for you and iWhatever, but iDon't take them seriously.
Well, the title is self-explanatory. I smell hypocrisy and tons of it.
I'm making a website with Rapidweaver. It's a great application. It's powerful, it's versatile and there are some really good Flash plug-ins for it. But where Flash really succeeds is not just with games and video, but stylish websites that ordinary people can build in no time, with even less coding experience that I have. Why is that a problem that people are having fun?
Apple's idea of fun is getting pretty poor. There is iWeb for you and iWhatever, but iDon't take them seriously.
It is not nearly as bad as it once was. Especially when Microsoft did whatever ridiculous thing they wanted.
That is why this is all funny. If Apple were using its position of strength to tout some closed system, it would be similar to what Microsoft did with Internet Explorer. Microsoft did whatever they wanted and had IE do all kinds of dumb and non-standard things because they could. Fortunately they have seen the light to at least try and give some consideration to standards.
In this case Apple is fighting against a closed system that has no regard for standards, for one that does.
I can say these days programming for most web browsers is not a big deal because of the standards. That is why support for HTML5 is such a big deal and why several power houses are backing it early and often. Without these standards their is a huge waste of resources down the line.
Flash is a disaster waiting to happen. It is inevitable if left in place as a fundamental part of the web process something would happen that would cause major problems at some point. Better to get off that boat and follow the standards. It makes things more predictable and cost effective in the long-term.
That would be true a few years ago, but PC hardware is very capable nowadays and since the release of Windows 7, stability is vastly less of an issue, too. As such, an Windows 7-based PC running 8 GB of RAM with the Core i5 or Core i7 CPU is a very capable machine doing high-end graphics work with a good LG or Samsung 24" or larger flat-screen monitor. And it will be a lot less expensive than an iMac with similar storage and memory capacity, too.
In short, Apple now runs the risk of being sued by Adobe for deliberately trying to destroy another company, and Adobe can cite the US v. Microsoft case, where the inclusion of Internet Explorer from Windows 95 OSR2 and later pretty much killed Netscape as an independent company.
Why are you commenting when you clearly don't understand anything being discussed.
You have zero understanding of customer relations if you think telling all your customers to switch to PCs is going to keep many of them.
You have zero understanding of business if you think it is sane, that Adobe should significantly damage it's own business in retaliation Apple making a sound technical platform decision. That isn't a business decision. It is the decision of a 14 year old girl having a tantrum.
You have zero understanding of Law, if you think Apple maintaining platform integrity is something Adobe can sue over.
You have no understanding of the changes in SDK being discussed if you see this as an attempt to destroy Adobes business.
In short, in a sea of clueless posts, yours deserves some kind of prize.
"Trust me, this time will be different"... Gosh, you sound like Bill Gates after each release of windoze. The truth is, they could've got it right this time but way too late, I'm not buying.
No, Apple does not, because they are just enforcing rules in their proprietary platform which is less than half the market share of smart phones (NOT a monopoly). It is very different.
Apple is pushing for Open Standards, HTML, CSS and ECMAScript in the mobile web (NOT like MS), and at the same time restricting developers to the APIs/tools they provide to ensure a consistent and high-quality UX across their proprietary hardware. Which is completely understandable (heck, even desirable if you're a user) and I assume MS does the same towards the XBox.
Exactly!
Imagine the nightmare for Apple having to master compatibility issues with ancient multi-million-dollar-hardware and by implementing hundreds of different color standards from vendors all over the world.
Let's face it: Acrobat is the one and only technology holding this whole mess together! It's a field in which Adobe has an advantage of at least a decade!
Just look at all these pretty Photoshop killers that become useless jokes as soon as they leave the RGB playground and face the real world of CMYK. Which is like living on an different planet. But this certainly ain't planet Apple...
Before setting even one foot into this prepress hell, Jobs will rather try to kill the whole printing industry with devices like iPad first.