This is exactly why Apple says Adobe is lazy because frankly, they are. Adobe wants Mac users to pry open their wallet and yank out $2000 for their productivity suite that STILL isn't a native cocoa app.
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Adobe Announces Creative Suite 5 including Photoshop CS5 and Flash Catalyst CS5
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This is exactly why Apple says Adobe is lazy because frankly, they are. Adobe wants Mac users to pry open their wallet and yank out $2000 for their productivity suite that STILL isn't a native cocoa app.
A general comment to those scoffing at this version as trivial...
Adobe read my mind with PS CS5. Fill, select, puppet will be getting a workout day 1 - I already have images lined up that I want to apply these to. (FWIW, I won a significant award last year in digital imaging.)
Adobe read my mind with PS CS5. Fill, select, puppet will be getting a workout day 1 - I already have images lined up that I want to apply these to. (FWIW, I won a significant award last year in digital imaging.)
And ABOUT $*&%&^#ING TIME TOO!!!
Ya... Honestly who does Adobe think they are to rip people of so bad? If Apple can get FCS down to $999 and it is better software than this then what is Adobe's excuse besides just making people bend over because they can?!
I LOVE that Steve screwed them on the cross compile feature!
No, you don't.
Just get the CS4 30-day trial to tide you over until the CS5 demo is available next month, and then buy it.
The academic version is the same as the regular version, although the terms/license is a little different. Most people ignore that.
Everything else? Honestly, go to Adobe, don't ask questions like this here.
Am I the only one...
interested in the Adobe / Omniture integration?
They seemed to indicate that there is some initial progress but didn't clarify what it was or which products had the integration. The word was that there is more to come but that's pretty vague.
Can anyone find any answers?
interested in the Adobe / Omniture integration?
They seemed to indicate that there is some initial progress but didn't clarify what it was or which products had the integration. The word was that there is more to come but that's pretty vague.
Can anyone find any answers?
Right, getting bored with hearing this type of comment. Some of it is most certainly my lack of knowledge of HTML 5 and for that I confess my sins (I am a Flash dev in case you hadn't guessed
)When I think about the kind of applications I build (for Toyota and Lexus), and those countless ones that other Flash dev's create I just cannot see how HTML 5 alone can create similar content. I need to be able to build an application that does several things:
Without wanting to go into the real detail of an example - say a car configurator application - let me scratch the surface of some of the things I routinely have to deal with
1) Large datasets that are requested from remote Webservices (at runtime and based on user interaction) - OK, I'm sure AJAX and JQuery could handle this kind of stuff, but boy is there a lot of data parsing required as the data is used pan-European (in my case) and across multiple applications (not just Flash) so the data is not laid out nicely for exactly my purposes
2) Localisability - all text content is localised for all European countries (and for Lexus, this includes Israel, ie Hebrew text) and much of that needs to be retrieved via XML or (1) above and then displayed to the user using fonts that the end user will not have installed on their system - not sure if JavaScript can handle the distribution (in such a way so that any DRM protection in the font is respected) and display of fonts
3) Display - fully interactive and dynamically updated based on data retrieved in (1) - eg dynamic colouring of assets at runtime, layering of assets on top of one another to build up a complete display (and synchronising the display of said assets) where an asset could be something like a fog light, or steering wheel or god forbid a bike rack mounted on a roof rack (which is included cos the data for the bike rack says to do so) - my head even hurts thinking about how this could be achieved on the client machine rather rather than going to and from between the server and client to do this
That is a brief example of what Flash can do. And yes, I'm sure other technologies can do similar stuff (Silverlight, .NET/AJAX/JQuery) but I'm fairly confident that Toyota ain't gonna turn round to me and say hey, HTML5 is supported on some browsers now, lets rewrite everything to use HTML5! Yes we are looking at HTML for them, but nowhere near actually developing applications that are to be deployed on the web.
Hate Flash or love it, it's going to be around for a long time yet. YouTube video, whilst it may be a major user of Flash is not the only example of Flash usage out there. Is there bad Flash out there? Yes, and I'm sure many of you would say I am partially responsible for some of it based on the above. Is there good Flash out there, of course there is.
Time to go - and by that I mean go and get stuck into Objective-C dev for an iPhone app I WAS hoping to use Adobe Packager to churn out for me. I'm happy to learn a new language, and was never convinced that Package would be the Godsend that Adobe claimed it to be, so wasn't just going to press the 'compile to iPhone app' and upload to iTunes without a LOT of digging. Similarly, I'm not about to click the 'compile to HTML5' button in Flash either! In fact, I rarely use the Flash IDE anyway.
I used the youtube HTML5 beta and the CPU utilization dropped from 80-90 percent (Flash Player) to 20-30 percent (HTML5). I use the latest version of Safari on the latest version of Mac OS X. Mac OS X and Safari run on a MBP Mid 2009.
I think Apple uses parts of the NVIDIA GPU(s) to decode H.264-content within Safari and other apps. This is more energy efficient than a CPU-based decoder.
It's pretty neat. As a professional retoucher (sometimes), the results I've seen in Adobe's own demos haven't been so great that I'd say we're all gonna be out of a job, though.
It will save us a TON of time just building a base layer to refine, especially if it matches film grain reasonably well (which I obviously couldn't tell from the videos online).
Flash CS5 will export to HTML5 Canvas:
http://www.9to5mac.com/Flash-html5-canvas-35409730
And now what Apple... HTML5 is since now bad?
http://www.9to5mac.com/Flash-html5-canvas-35409730
And now what Apple... HTML5 is since now bad?
Agreed, I experience all those same issues. Well, it's beta. It will be better soon enough. It doesn't even work on Firefox as of yet. I'm not concerned, I don't have to have everything perfect right now in order to make a judgement if it will be successful or not.
People say this a lot, but these are the people who only need Photoshop Elements but don't want to feel like they're playing with a little toy version of a program for professionals.
If all you need to do is some minor color correction or cropping/resizing images… USE SOMETHING ELSE.
Photoshop isn't bloated if you're a professional retoucher, work with 3D renderings a lot, or… otherwise actually need to use the program in any meaningful capacity. It's a huge, powerful, and very good program.
LOL!
Bet you a bag of M&Ms they have been working on a Photoshop rival for the past 2-3 years.
If Adobe can make Premiere Pro for the Mac. Why can't Apple have it's own version of Photoshop?
Said it before, iPhoto Pro or something like that.
Ok, the new Photoshop features look like real time savers, and with the (supposed) performance enhancements, I think that for $200 the price is alright.
But I hate what they've done with the Flash app. I think they've just completely ruined it with this release.
I mean look at it, absolutely no real new animation feature. They've turned what could've been a very powerful and professional animation app (That was the way Macromedia was heading toward) into some some web development tool that produces crappy code. They've added some new apps with every release, but no, they couldn't make a separate one version for web (and now application) development.
Let's see, if I were an animator. $700. For $100 less I could buy Toon Boom Animate, which can do much, much more than Flash, and much better too.
They've ultimately killed Flash as a professional animation tool (or the rudimentary designing tool) it was and replaced it with a WYSISYG web development - mobile app development tool.
I wonder when they'll make an animation app, since that's the only "pro" app they're lacking now.
But I hate what they've done with the Flash app. I think they've just completely ruined it with this release.
I mean look at it, absolutely no real new animation feature. They've turned what could've been a very powerful and professional animation app (That was the way Macromedia was heading toward) into some some web development tool that produces crappy code. They've added some new apps with every release, but no, they couldn't make a separate one version for web (and now application) development.
Let's see, if I were an animator. $700. For $100 less I could buy Toon Boom Animate, which can do much, much more than Flash, and much better too.
They've ultimately killed Flash as a professional animation tool (or the rudimentary designing tool) it was and replaced it with a WYSISYG web development - mobile app development tool.
I wonder when they'll make an animation app, since that's the only "pro" app they're lacking now.
video card
anyone know what's up with the video card hardware requirements? its not like apple has any of them in the imac lines
or is this more apple vs adobe hate in play.
anyone know what's up with the video card hardware requirements? its not like apple has any of them in the imac lines
or is this more apple vs adobe hate in play.
Adobe doesn't sell computers that help offset the cost of their software develop where as Apple pretty much gives software away to help sell computers. The price point for FCS is completely out of whack compared to the rest of the industry and shouldn't be used as a price measuring stick.Ya... Honestly who does Adobe think they are to rip people of so bad? If Apple can get FCS down to $999 and it is better software than this then what is Adobe's excuse besides just making people bend over because they can?!
Lethal
That's what Avid said too
Software is just that. Software. It can be rebuilt, reverse engineered. Whatever Apple needs they can make on their own. Adobe is going DOWN.
Adobe isn't perfect, but no one wants to kill them off. We just want to end Flash's reign over the internet. This recent turn of events between them and Apple should make them want to kick it into high gear and make better products that have better support/more frequent bug fixes. Adobe knows their **** is about to get ruined if things continue they way they are.
Stop acting like a victim and being so damn dramatic. No one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy into Apple's products. There are lots of other options. Besides, it's their products and their "walled garden", they can do whatever they want to with it. Grow up and stop acting like your owed something.
Flash CS5 will export to HTML5 Canvas:
http://www.9to5mac.com/Flash-html5-canvas-35409730
And now what Apple... HTML5 is since now bad?
but...but...but... teh code is bad!
Anyway. Can't wait to get my cheap(ish) Masters Collection from school.
Flash CS5 will export to HTML5 Canvas:
http://www.9to5mac.com/Flash-html5-canvas-35409730
And now what Apple... HTML5 is since now bad?
I don't think Apple will care. This is what Apple wants. Now you can do the same things as Flash without out the Flash bloat. And we as the customers win with better battery life and faster running webpages...
Way too expensive!
$799 just to upgrade from CS3 is ridiculous.
I really wanted to upgrade, but now I just can't afford it.
Maybe next time.
$799 just to upgrade from CS3 is ridiculous.
I really wanted to upgrade, but now I just can't afford it.
Maybe next time.
$799 just to upgrade from CS3 is ridiculous.
I really wanted to upgrade, but now I just can't afford it.
Maybe next time.
You making this decision as a professional or a casual user ?
Because if you're a casual user, your casualy not really smart...
Otherwise...erf, it's pretty effin expensive