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Adobe Announces New Creative Cloud Apps, Abandons Creative Suite

Project Mighty stylus and Napoleon ruler, oh wow! You can hate Adobe all you want for going subscription only, but they are really bringing it this time. I can't wait to try out these new gadgets! I'm really intrigued with the ability to draw with the pen, and then erase with your finger. That's SO cool!
 
Sky Blue said:
So is this all web based or is there still something installed locally?
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It all installs locally, as long as you have a net connection once every thirty days, the license remains active. If not, the software reverts to a thirty day demo mode.. In effect giving you a sixty day window to connect to the adobe servers.

It's a great system and it keeps you bang up to date. A lot of FUD being spread in this discussion. This is all very clear explained on the adobe site,
 
This has to be problematic for the enterprise when they are no longer in control of the upgrades and when to make them, potentially leading to interoperability issues as well as being forced to train staff as Adobe decides they should move on. I think there's a pretty major problem lurking with subscription + cloud apps.

Of course, if you don't care if Adobe is in control of which apps / versions your company use (just picture Adobe suddenly cancelling a cloud app used in your company's workflow -- ouch), this may not be a big deal...
 
Yeah, sorry. Subscription based cloud services are just plain stupid.

I'll be sticking with my $30 Pixelmator that I can buy once, OWN, and is just as good as the $600 Photoshop.
 
inkswamp said:
You may be correct about the first few, but the last one, is absolutely wrong. $600/year is insane.
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That $600 a year is for the entire creative suite. As in PS, Illustrator, and all that other good stuff. It's not just Photoshop alone.

I think it's the equivalent of the Master Collection, which is $2500 up front. If you need every single tool in the Adobe arsenal, and always need to update, that $600 a year ain't nothing in comparison to buying and updating the package every time a new rev comes out.

I'll agree with you (and probably just about everyone else here) that most of Adobe's stuff is way overpriced. Problem is, it's all really good, and there isn't anything else out there that can quite match them on features and ease of use.

What Adobe needs most of all is some healthy competition to drive down prices. But until that happens, at least we have this cheaper option.
 
jameskachan said:
Cut the price in half, then we can talk, $600 a year forever is too much money.
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Not for a design professional. It's less than one job. These are not toys for amateurs, they are tools for professionals, for none of who 600 a year is an issue. Thirty or so dollars a month is not only nothing in real terms, it's also deductible for tax. It aids cash flow, ensures you always have the latest version and the new features sound fantastic for project management and syncing between multiple machines.

Well done Adobe.
 
spazzcat said:
It cost less if you already own a copy of CS3 or greater. Also, its less if you only want one app. Also, Adobe does not care about the one off people using Photoshop. They only care about business people using their software and most of them update every year or every other year. So, it cheaper to go this route.
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Only for the first year.
 
Ex Adobe user here. My Last dosis of CS pills was the CS5. Today I make my living with other tools, sometimes buggy sometimes don't but I can live with that.

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I told you long time ago and I'm telling you now: Good bye Adobe!
 
Wow.. This sucks

As for someone who doesn't need anything but the Production Suites Student Edition, I will be forking over pretty much twice the amount of money now. I upgrade every 2 years and so in essence, Adobe can now charge me $480 for the first year, and then $600 the next year and on. So what I would spend on a production suite ($540) is now over $1000. And I don't technically even own the software... :mad:
 
Holy Cow... People really need to understand what this is about before spouting off on this topic.

ALL SOFTWARE IS INSTALLED LOCALLY. Just because it has "cloud" in the name does NOT mean you can use it anywhere you log in.

Has anyone that thinks this ever actually used Photoshop???

Photoshop is a Memory, Disk, CPU and GPU hog. You cannot run an app like this remotely and hope for it to be usable!

The only difference is they are not selling hard copies of the programs, which they started to go away from years ago by offering downloads of the software online.
 
Todd B. said:
Yeah, sorry. Subscription based cloud services are just plain stupid.

I'll be sticking with my $30 Pixelmator that I can buy once, OWN, and is just as good as the $600 Photoshop.
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Lol, maybe for what you do, but could you show me how to separate colour channels, insert a spot colour channel and output colour calibrated files of a standard required by a professional print bureau. Pixelmator is a great hobbyist toy. It does not have five percent of photoshop's capability.
 
jameskachan said:
Cut the price in half, then we can talk, $600 a year forever is too much money.
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Bingo. They priced it based on folks who upgraded every half-suite version. Price it for every other, or every third, and it's a much better option.

Muse is already in the cloud, and it's a major PITA. Air is terrible - have to upgrade Muse and air, but if you don't do it in the right order, then the upgrades disappear, and there's no way to check for upgrades manually and fix the issue (you have to re-download the whole thing from their site and reinstall it). Great app, lousy distribution mechanism. And I really don't want to have to redownload the entire installer every time I rebuild my machine.
 
jessica. said:
I imagine there will be but it won't do anything to change it.
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The complaints may not make a difference but money talks. They'll have to reconsider if most users who have been paying for the apps and upgrades decide not to pay for the cloud versions.

fivedots said:
A better example would be buying a game from Steam. The game is installed locally but ownership/activation is checked in the cloud.
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Except that game purchases from Steam are generally actually purchases as opposed to monthly rental fee.

unplugme71 said:
Software was always 'rented/leased' never owned.
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Yet the previous model allowed paying once to use the software indefinitely. Whether it was technically "owning" the software or not, for all practical purposes for the user it was equivalent to owning as opposed to losing the software when no longer paying the monthly fees.
 
Most unfortunate

iisdan said:
Why is everyone complaining? No one I know actually buys CS because it's too expensive, $50 / month is expensive, but for a pro is reasonable.
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I, for one, have bought Adobe Creative Suite, and from the posts I have read it looks as though others have legally purchased the software. Comments like this aggravate me. Everyone I know pays for the software they use. It is only right to pay for a product that is produced.

Not being a graphic professional the Monthly Cloud Based Subscription Service would be wasteful for me. I purchased the Adobe software for my personal creative purposes only, and I've upgraded the software over the years. I generate no income from the use of the software. $600 a year for a product that I upgraded maybe every two years or so seems a bit much. If I was able to only pay the subscription services for the months that I used it, it may be a more viable alternative.
 
nelmat said:
Not for a design professional. It's less than one job. These are not toys for amateurs, they are tools for professionals, for none of who 600 a year is an issue.
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WOW. You think all designers have big corporations as clients huh? The biggest client that I have is Hilton And I got like 30 clients (small businesses the majority) this is not Disneyland my friend, I quit Adobe because they became greedy and are putting professional labels just for the ones who can pay the prices of their tools.

We have plenty of options now and remember digital is the biggest business now. Most of their publishers owns their printers now days.

There is a lot of art designers and coders that are working for pennies. Stop talking about how good Adobe is. Adobe is not the only solution now. Sorry.
 
Jessica Lares said:
Project Mighty stylus and Napoleon ruler, oh wow! You can hate Adobe all you want for going subscription only, but they are really bringing it this time. I can't wait to try out these new gadgets! I'm really intrigued with the ability to draw with the pen, and then erase with your finger. That's SO cool!
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yup! already signed up for the newsflash

ok glass, where did I leave my Napoleon?
 
Hberg said:
Not being a graphic professional the Monthly Cloud Based Subscription Service would be wasteful for me. I purchased the Adobe software for my personal creative purposes only, and I've upgraded the software over the years. I generate no income from the use of the software. $600 a year for a product that I upgraded maybe every two years or so seems a bit much. If I was able to only pay the subscription services for the months that I used it, it may be a more viable alternative.
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Remember, the $600 is for the entire suite of tools. If you're just using just a single app out of the bunch like I am, it's much, much cheaper.

And you can subscribe on a month by month basis.
 
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