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Adobe Announces New Creative Cloud Apps, Abandons Creative Suite
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I hope this gives another company a real opportunity to create products to compete with Adobe. I can't imagine most people are going to like this strategy.
Everyone benefitted from the days of Macromedia v. Adobe. I wonder who will rise to the challenge? Will Adobe go back on this once they see folks trickling from their products?
Everyone benefitted from the days of Macromedia v. Adobe. I wonder who will rise to the challenge? Will Adobe go back on this once they see folks trickling from their products?
Yes, very true. Was more so referring to the way the application is installed and licensing is managed.
No, it will mean Adobe has to innovate less. Once they tease everyone to PS-CC with some new features, there's no compelling reason to add more. Everyone will be paying monthly, new features or not. They could go 3 years without adding anything, and everyone would still be paying monthly.
In the absence of a commercial competitor, they can do whatever they want.
I'm sorry, but Pixelmator in no way matches the level of Photoshop for professional uses. Hopefully someday, if they keep at it. I'm sure the author would tell you that as well.
Just as a reminder, from the Creative Cloud FAQ...
...and there lies the problem. You don't OWN anything. As soon as you stop paying monthly, you have nothing to show for all the hundreds you've put down. It's not buying software, it's a glorified rental service.
...and there lies the problem. You don't OWN anything. As soon as you stop paying monthly, you have nothing to show for all the hundreds you've put down. It's not buying software, it's a glorified rental service.
Not without a competitor.
The only way to force a change would be a large-scale long-term boycott of CC.
And what about those that don't upgrade every year?
Constantly paying a monthly fee to use software - even if you're not using it on a daily basis - is just stupid. Why FORCE people into their cloud? Why not continue to offer it as an option?
I'm sure they will make sure it breaks on the next version of MacOS X and Windows.
You're right and that's the rub. For professionals there is no viable alternative. For hobbiests (that which I count myself) and even prosumers, Pixelmator fits very nicely. I'll say this, the pixelmator folks will see a nice jump in sales thanks to this
I'm not a fan of the subscription model, but $600 is hardly insane. It's quite reasonable actually.
No offense, but if you can get away with everything Pixelmator offers then you weren't part of the target market that Photoshop caters to.
As for someone who doesn't need anything but the Production Suites Student Edition, I will be forking over pretty much twice the amount of money now. I upgrade every 2 years and so in essence, Adobe can now charge me $480 for the first year, and then $600 the next year and on. So what I would spend on a production suite ($540) is now over $1000. And I don't technically even own the software...
How long were you planning on being a student?
As much as you'd like to believe otherwise, Adobe is the only viable solution in many areas.
So for someone like me who upgraded his Creative Suite Design Standard (because I don't need the other programms) every 2-3 years it is now almost three times more expensive.
And if I stop paying I can't open my files anymore.
I'll stay with CS6 for quite a while that's for sure.
I do hope not too many people buy this so that Adobe has to deliver a different solution.
Anyone still using QuarkXPress? Might be worth a try if all else fails ...
I feel the same way. I just hope that the CS6 is compatible with OS 10.9. I don't see Adobe exactly pouring resources into making patches to fix OS 10.9 compatibility bugs in their abandoned CS6 products.
It's a shame really.
I still use CS3 that I purchased as a student license, containing Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign (plus acrobat pro). I purchased it a good 5 years or so ago and was contemplating upgrading soon, but with this new CC monthly model, there is no way in HE## that I will upgrade. I'll use CS3 as long as possible and deal with it's shortcomings. A subscription model will cost me thousands of dollars more which is totally unacceptable.
And yes, I am a professional photographer.
And yes, I am a professional photographer.
this will either lead to revolt (just when we thought quark would finally go away and die..) or quite simply abandonment.
our mid-size studio wont subscribe to any model like this - and we only have about 35-40 workstations with CS6.
i cant imagine what bigger studios are deciding to do.
will creative-cloud-7 work with our "legacy" software?
interesting times.
this is all about control and not quality of applications.
our mid-size studio wont subscribe to any model like this - and we only have about 35-40 workstations with CS6.
i cant imagine what bigger studios are deciding to do.
will creative-cloud-7 work with our "legacy" software?
interesting times.
this is all about control and not quality of applications.
I'm a student who will be graduating but still be working for the university, so I will continue to have my education email and be working for a public education system, so, uh, quite some time.
I doubt it. Most of the people who are screaming around here are knee jerking, and don't understand the whole deal.
The subscription service is cheaper overall if you're using the entire creative suite. It's even cheaper than that if you're using one or two apps. It'd take you about three years of subscribing before you'd match the cost of the shelf bought versions.
The only issue is for people who like to own their software, which I can understand. Even though I'm being pretty open minded about this, rental software doesn't quite gel with me all the way. I can accept it, but I'll be arching one eyebrow and going "....eeehhhh" the entire time. But for people who always need to upgrade, or just want to use a small part of the suite, this isn't a bad alternative.
Most people here see it as $600 a year and think it's a huge ripoff. They're not thinking, just screaming to hear themselves scream. If they actually looked at it, they'd see it as a $2500 up front plus at least $500 for upgrade fees to get the new versions, or $600 a year, and upgrades come standard as part of the package.
The one big (HUGE) downside to it is if you decide not to pay one month, you lose access to everything. If you've been subscribing for 5 years, that'd probably sting a bit. But the plus side is you are saving a ton of money.
Adobe is only doing this because of corporate greed. They envision the constant cash flow coming in monthly will help them significantly. But they don't realize that they're going to alienate and turn away a very large portion of their user base.
I am never going to buy another Adobe product again. I don't care how innovative they think they are. I can keep my Adobe CS five for quite some time and wait for another competitor to come out.
Good riddance, Adobe.
I am never going to buy another Adobe product again. I don't care how innovative they think they are. I can keep my Adobe CS five for quite some time and wait for another competitor to come out.
Good riddance, Adobe.
Unbelievable!
So Adobe thinks that we'll rent their software from now on? I don't think so.
I too am on CS 6 and have no intentions of supporting this insulting move by Adobe. I do not want to rent all my software in the future. I want to be able to purchase what I want, use it when I want, and continue to use it if I so choose even if the producer no longer supports it.
I will not be dictated terms by Adobe.
-P
So Adobe thinks that we'll rent their software from now on? I don't think so.
I too am on CS 6 and have no intentions of supporting this insulting move by Adobe. I do not want to rent all my software in the future. I want to be able to purchase what I want, use it when I want, and continue to use it if I so choose even if the producer no longer supports it.
I will not be dictated terms by Adobe.
-P
I predict a Quark style backlash. Think about this entire business model - it does NOTHING to help the customer. We are talking multi-gigabyte downloads.
The line is drawn here. I spent 15 years overcoming Adobe's ancient, unintuitive GUI that many people would have to go to college to learn. Adobe is not customer oriented. Their whole company mantra is "We are the standard. Follow us or get left behind."
The line is drawn here. I spent 15 years overcoming Adobe's ancient, unintuitive GUI that many people would have to go to college to learn. Adobe is not customer oriented. Their whole company mantra is "We are the standard. Follow us or get left behind."