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"The iPad Prosumer" is more like it.

for those of us who work with desktop class software every minute of every day of our lives ,and use said software in our workflow, why would anyone question our desires for OS X on a tablet - when there are other brands that DO offer such luxuries? you might not see how OS X on a magazine sized tablet using a stylus would be PERFECT for us, but hey - you aren't us, clearly.

if you have a problem with our disappointment in apple for gimping this device when we've been waiting so long for them to crush the surface pro, there's a nifty 'block' feature on this site. so use it.
 
Have you tried the mod book?

http://www.modbook.com


If that is what you all keep clamoring for, why are you all not just buying one? I know why because I have tried one....OSX is not built for touch screens....apple knows it too....

But if it is what you really think is the answer, then you can get it now, in fact you could have gotten one long before the first iPad was out.
 
People have a short memory, in the original iPhone presentation Steve even said that the iPhone runs OS X. People also think that two things that look different are completely different. So yes, except for a few GUI parts OS X and iOS are already the same.

iPhone OS ran OS X core - meaning it had functionality that wasn't needed. iOS basically took the OS X core and stripped out the stuff not needed and just included the stacks that were.
 
And the pro is even more niche. Larger, which is less portable, and it is double the price. It is probably the most niche device they have ever released.

That's basically what I said. It's geared more as an enterprise tablet, or for those in film/photography/engineering.
 
Have you tried the mod book?

http://www.modbook.com


If that is what you all keep clamoring for, why are you all not just buying one? I know why because I have tried one....OSX is not built for touch screens....apple knows it too....

But if it is what you really think is the answer, then you can get it now, in fact you could have gotten one long before the first iPad was out.

Hmm is that even legal? I doubt.

Check out this http://us.vaio.com and compare it to iPad Pro or Surface Pro 3
 
What a bunch of whiners...

Surface Pro 3 is not superior because it runs Windows 10. Surface Pro 3 is underpowered to run the types of applications most people buy pro machines to run. Surface Pro 3 is primarily good at running Office, which is now available for iOS. .

Of course-what else could an 15/17 processsor run?
 
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Apple could have a dual chip a9x and a core m so it does well with cooking and is able to boot either operating system. Dock it and boom. OS X. Use a Bluetooth mouth and the keyboard it comes with. Undock it and you have iOS

I think you could make the osx/ios transition more fluid and you would have a break through device. It seems
likely to me apple will overcome its anti hybrid bias before MS can---if ever--create an touch app ecosytem. It
may take years
 
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It's just a super sized iPad - still runs a phone OS, and cannot run OS X applications natively. Reminds me of Windows RT.

Totally the opposite!

The problem with Windows RT is not itself, it's the number of applications supported there is just 1/10 of that supported by regular Windows.

On the other hand, the number of applications created for iOS is a lot more than OS X. With OS X, from time to time I keep hitting application-availability limitations that forces me to keep a Windows partition. With iOS, none of those limitation existed.
 
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The worst thing is that they will keep iPad Air underspec. now, just to show how good iPad Pro is. This is crazy. I guess no iPad Air update this October...

Yeah i agree! A big shame there is no new Ipad air. :( :(

Hopefully there will be a October update for the Ipad Air if not then it will be next yaer!!


To be honest Apple could of done a a least a small update like putting the A9 or A9X chip in it i don't see no reason why Apple should not update the most popular sized 9.7 inch Ipad does not make sense at tall.. :/
 
It's just a super sized iPad - still runs a phone OS, and cannot run OS X applications natively. Reminds me of Windows RT.
yeap thank god is not longer w us, they should have gone the route of the surface 3 route w the iPad pro tbh. This is 2015, but apple thinks they can put out anything and people will buy it, I hope it gets low sales for them to realize they need to up their game and bring more innovation.
 
Its funny because people think Apple can just put OS X on this within a minute. Where the reality is that they would have to make new drivers and everything for the processor and graphics.
 
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Too limited is entirely dependent on what you do with it. As an alternative to a cintiq companion running in €300-500 less, even at €1000 and paired with your mac as a second screen with the likes of Astropad - it would prove to be a fantastic Cintiq alternative and one priced cheaper with better battery life and far more flexibility.

Just because a device doesn't fit the parameters you have yourself - doesn't mean it's limited - it just means that you are limited in what you would do with yourself.

I have had the Surface Pro 2, windows has issues with Hi Dpi especially when third party apps enter the equation. The likes of Sketchbook Pro and Corel Painter have broken GUI's when viewed in the Surface Pro's 200% GUI scaling, meaning you have to reduce GUI scaling to 100-125% and then menus and toolbars become entirely cumbersome to work with, bordering on pure frustration.

I also had Note Pro 12.2 which Samsung's software support was abysmal.

For illustrators / artists and other users this tablet is a very enticing device and one which comparatively with the direct competition is actually bang on price wise and offers considerable price difference compared to Wacom's own android and windows based Cintiq devices.

For me the iPad Pro represents a great valued work tool and one that I will be no doubts - highly productive on.


Totally agree.

Painting 3d textures whilst watching TV is an attractive thought. It will be interesting to see if / how much better it is than the IPad Intuos pens.

I hope full OS is not to far away. Modelling in Zbrush on one of those would be just incredible. Transferring large files might be a pita though.
 
But keep in mind that Windows RT only supported and only can install apps from the Microsoft app store, you can't instal desktop programs and still now there is not a lot apps yet so that is why Windows RT flopped and died. But compare that to IOS they already have lots of top quality apps and games that is for the Ipad Pro and over time developers will create a lot more apps for the Ipad Pro and take advantage of the power of the A9X chip. So i think IOS definitely won't flop on the 12.9 inch Ipad Pro and unlike the Windows RT and now the Ipad Pro is real IOS will be become more advanced and not as limiting in the future!

IOS is the way forward for Ipad's not OSX!!

I know Windows RT was restricted and could not run native Windows 32 bit / 64 bit applications and that was the problem, just as the iPad uses a Phone OS instead of Mac OS X which would allow the iPad pro to run desktop and native applications just like on a Mac - that was the whole point of my response. The iPad pro should run Mac OS X.
 
Except for low-latency apps (drawing, music instruments, games, etc.), you can do that now. There are over a dozen remote desktop and VNC apps already in the app store. I've run Xcode and other OS X apps on my iPad already (server on my MacBook far away). My linux server isn't even in the same state, but I run it from my iPad. And music instruments apps might already be better on iPads than PCs.
Jesus. Can't you let a guy dream before you crush them?
 
I think you could make the osx/ios transition more fluid and you would have a break through device. It seems
likely to me apple will overcome its anti hybrid bias before MS can---if ever--create an touch app ecosytem. It
may take years
And then people will lose their shhhhht. Angrily typing "yawn. Apple copied Microsoft!"
 
And then people will lose their shhhhht. Angrily typing "yawn. Apple copied Microsoft!"

I am starting to consider buying this. I like the surface--but i miss some key ios apps--ti-nspire, etc. Like everyone--i want it all--but this could be an attractive compromise
 
A casual user won't benefit from the larger screen. Illustrators, multi-taskers, and other power users will make use of the larger screen. A casual user can browse emails and internet and Facebook perfectly fine on a normal iPad. It's not as if any of the onscreen elements (icons, text, etc) are larger or easier to see. They're all the exact same size. The screen just holds more of them at once now.

I disagree.

Anyone who browses the web, reads magazines, watches or edits video, views or edits photos, reads graphic novels, reads or composes music, reads PDFs or A4 documents, works on spreadsheets, works on presentations or draws will benefit from this big iPad.
 
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