Adobe Claims iPad Pro Has 4GB of RAM [Updated]

[firewood]

As far as high quality business apps on iPad, those remain to be seen and are far out. I predict that Professionals will eventually get tired of missing out on keyboard shortcuts, trackpads, a USB port to quickly exchange files, etc...

Yes the apps are yet to be developed.

But keyboarding skills were not even close to being a high-status skill for over a half century. That was the secretary pools job. The janitor carried keys, not the boss. So my guess is that professionals will trend to touch interfaces and wireless connectivity, rather than miss "shortcuts" and USB toys.

And PC gaming rigs will become the relatively smaller niche market before mobile devices do. Game development will follow that revenue trend.

 

[firewood]

Apple could have a dual chip a9x and a core m so it does well with cooking and is able to boot either operating system. Dock it and boom. OS X. Use a Bluetooth mouth and the keyboard it comes with. Undock it and you have iOS

Except for low-latency apps (drawing, music instruments, games, etc.), you can do that now. There are over a dozen remote desktop and VNC apps already in the app store. I've run Xcode and other OS X apps on my iPad already (server on my MacBook far away). My linux server isn't even in the same state, but I run it from my iPad. And music instruments apps might already be better on iPads than PCs.

 

[firewood]

We need actual computers. It would be utter suicide to get rid of a general purpose computer.

Yup. IBM still makes big mainframe computers.

Just not anywhere near as many as back when Jobs and Gates were in high school, and Intel only made a few memory chips.

But we still need 'em. Big honkin' water cooled things that fill a room.

 

[manu chao]

It does, because most people who bought an iPad, me included, did so because they wanted to surf the web, listen to music and maybe watch video.
Light tasks. The iPad is great for that.

If Apple would allow third-party apps (eg, Lightroom) to bypass the Photos app (or give third-party apps the ability to delete, rename, and reorganise the images inside the Photos app), an iPad, in particular the new iPad Pro with its large screen and much increased processing power, could be used for sorting, organising and light processing of photos.

Right now, if you use the Camera Connection Kit (CCK), the only official way to import images directly from memory cards or cameras, all photos end up in the Photos app and third-party apps which are better at dealing with large amounts of photos in regard to tagging (keywords, captions, etc.) and image processing and that can actually use the raw files cannot delete images or create folders inside Photos. You couldn't even mark images for deletion from third-party apps without resorting to hacks like converting them into something that stands out visually. And deleting images inside Photos is a one tap per image process, very cumbersome if you are dealing with hundreds or thousands of images.

The only option to bypass the Photos app is transfer images via WiFi (eg, with Eye-Fi cards) which is often somewhat fiddly and prone to hick-ups. And transmitting raw files is very slow, 802.11n is the best you can get at the moment.

 

[firewood]

You're prophesy is unsettling, but probably correct. Our corporate media masters have been trying for over a decade to switch us all over to a locked down OS like iOS where our ability to manipulate files on our own is limited, and subject to being eliminated completely at their whim.

File-like stuff is moving to the cloud, where we can duplicate stuff across multiple clouds, and thus make it even harder to eliminate.

Anything not locked down is too likely to be taken over by malware these days, and thus lost anyway.

 

[StyxMaker]

I have to laugh at the 'ios is too limited" crowd. There's no limit to how powerful iOS can be. The problem is with you old fogies who are fixated on file systems. This is a 20th century computing paradigm. In 20 years your idea of computing will be relegated to niche use cases. The revolution has been underway for a while now.

No need to bring age into this, I'm 65 and see no problem with not having access to the file system in IOS devices

 

[AnthonyHarris]

The ram and keyboard might make this desirable for a 'rich' someone not looking for a notebook, but it'll never drag me away from mine.

I guess we'll just have to deal with the fact that Apple aren't going to eat into their notebook sales by turning the iPad into a 'real' computer, as much as it is wanted.

On the plus side, developers are being given a lot of room to move.

 

[BornAgainMac]

Apple should have sold the iPad Pro for $799 with only 16 GB to save that dollar.

 

[wizard]

It will sell to a niche set (perhaps graphics artists). I wouldn't ever purchase an iPad Pro at this price point, much rather get a Surface Pro which gives me Windows 10. Apple made it a low volume product by putting this in direct competition with a full computer...

The point is it can do things a computer can't or significantly enhance dong things a PC can do. I don't think the intention was to produce a high volume product per say. Rather I suspect the goal was to delver an item with significant unique capabilities.

 

[Dmunjal]

Have a read of this if you doubt an iPad can be a main computer. And this was before iOS 9 so it's even more true today.

https://www.macstories.net/stories/ipad-air-2-review-why-the-ipad-became-my-main-computer/

It can be a main computer for the author but his work flow has nothing in common with enterprise users who need to work with complex Microsoft Office documents in multiple windows with internal file-sharing solutions like SharePoint. I don't think IBM and Cisco can fix those limitations.

I would bet you that even typical Apple employees use a Macbook as their primary computer and the iPad only for email on the go.

 

[Virinprew]

After chuckling a little bit after seeing/reading about the iPad "Pro", I am happily going back to my Surface Pro 3 and will plug in a thumbdrive, SD card, and browse the local network to celebrate the launch of the iPad "Pro".

Maybe I'll recompile a few Visual Studio projects in the background as well while editing some some large PSD files.

And can I borrow your usb port for a while? I forget to bring my powerbank and wanna power up my iPhone a bit.

 

[EdT]

Why is the amount of RAM supposed to be a secret? What is Apple gaining by not disclosing ( and evidently putting pressure on companies to also not disclose ) how much system memory a product has? I think whatever PR 'damage' could be done by stating how much memory the iPad Pro has is nothing compared to the damage that might be done if the system specs, or lack of specifications, become a hot topic. Especially if Apple is accused of hiding something or misrepresentation. I don't get why they think hiding this is important.

 

[macfoxpro]

I think I'm going to get one, so long as it is still *reasonably* light and portable. It'll be an amazing (if slightly expensive) portable TV for watching BBC iPlayer, Sky Go etc. Web browsing should be awesome too. Personally that's all I use my (v3) iPad for today and, for me, bigger will be better for these things.

And the price is relative too: iPad Pro + Pencil + Keyboard + Apple TV still leaves you change vs the Hermes strap. Bargain!

Yeah, I will be most likely getting one to replace my Late 208 MBP.
Honestly, I will only be doing web browsing, checking emails, paying bills, and maybe some gaming. I like the portablilty and size. Watching HBO GO, etc.. will be awesome. Looking forward to it, actually.

 

[macfoxpro]

And the pro is even more niche. Larger, which is less portable, and it is double the price. It is probably the most niche device they have ever released.

Fragmentation time. Now you're going to get apps that need 4 gb of ram and won't run on ios devices with 2 or 1 gb of ram.

Apple doesn't want people to know how much ram the ipad pro has or else customers will feel they are buying obsolete devices with the iPhone 6 s.

Not so sure about that, although very interesting.

I love the way you state personal opinions as if they were undisputed facts.

While you may have been disappointed, there are many out there, including myself, who are excited by Apple's continued innovation and most of us are neither gullible nor lobotomised.

I have a Wacom tablet and it is almost never used because it's just not the same thing to draw one place and have that "ink" appear somewhere else. Drawing on the screen itself with low-latency input is much better.

Why do you deride an "8 years old" operating system? Do you have any idea the investment in time and money it requires to create an OS? (I'm a developer so I at least have some idea) You definitely don't want to throw it away every few years and start again let me tell you that! 8 years is nothing, especially with the incremental way that Apple develop their OS and their willingness to drop legacy support when the time is right and keep renewing the codebase.

"Too much greed"? Huh? Apple are a company, and growing revenue and making profit is what they are "required" to do. The amount of business innovation and business-model innovation which they have conducted to get to where they are now is in many ways more impressive than their products. Listen to the Critical Path podcast with Horace Dediu if you want to learn about this aspect. Steve Jobs was a great CEO there is no doubt but many would argue (myself included) that Tim Cook is even better as a CEO and with the backing of most of the senior execs who cut their teeth under Steve's tenure, the company is still in great shape. Steve's vision lives on in those execs and everyone else at Apple.

By the way, 97% of customers (including me and my wife) are loving their "ugly" Apple Watches, and 2016 will see new records for revenue and profit I have no doubt.

Why can't people just see it for what it is. It's a badass iPad.

I will surely be ordering one, but then again, I have $1,667,439.02 in my savings, so...

But, never mind that, does any of this matter...really? No, it's a new, big, badass iPad!!

 

[Derpage]

Yes the apps are yet to be developed.

But keyboarding skills were not even close to being a high-status skill for over a half century. That was the secretary pools job. The janitor carried keys, not the boss. So my guess is that professionals will trend to touch interfaces and wireless connectivity, rather than miss "shortcuts" and USB toys.

And PC gaming rigs will become the relatively smaller niche market before mobile devices do. Game development will follow that revenue trend.

I don't think you are qualified to comment on this, but it's good to know the geriatrics are still going strong.

 

[BvizioN]

Queue the "it needs at least 8 GB" statements .

You were late. It had already started before you commented.

 

[Renzatic]

So my guess is that professionals will trend to touch interfaces and wireless connectivity, rather than miss "shortcuts" and USB toys.

There's no way in hell the professional market will give up their shortcuts. They allow you to do a job so, so much faster than digging through menus and hunting down icons, since the keys are right there at your fingertips. Your index, middle, ring, and pinky fingers can access hundreds of commands in a split second.

A touchscreen can compensate for this somewhat, since it's also right at your fingertips. Problem is, there's only so much room you can place touchable shortcuts before they start getting in the way of the rest of the interface.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

Apple should have sold the iPad Pro for $799 with only 16 GB to save that dollar.

Even if it were one dollar cheaper, the forum would have blown up about that!

 

[Apples n' Stone]

Not so sure about that, although very interesting.



Why can't people just see it for what it is. It's a badass iPad.

I will surely be ordering one, but then again, I have $1,667,439.02 in my savings, so...

But, never mind that, does any of this matter...really? No, it's a new, big, badass iPad!!

You said it wrong.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

You were late. It had already started before you commented.

Cue "for it to really be called Pro it needs similar specs to the Mac Pro" statements.

 

[aroom]

Plus have a secure device I can carry out of the office. Best of both worlds.

I don't mean to annoy you, but iOS and OSX aren't anything but "secure". Security update / patches take ages to be released - when they are - and even don't fix the problem in some case. Linux/BSD are way more secure, due to the package manager and the ease of update. In the CERN facilities - European Organization for Nuclear Research in Geneva, the guys who invented the word wide web and found the higg's boson - OSX computer aren't allowed in the network anymore, due to security flaw.

Security in Apple terms is more a commercial concept of a locked ecosystem : the app Store. Which can be great of course for developers and innovation. But not "secure" at all. (this may be just my point of vue...)

You can ssh your linux servers from your iPad, but you can't ssh your iPad, can you ?

 

[mattopotamus]

Not so sure about that, although very interesting.



Why can't people just see it for what it is. It's a badass iPad.

I will surely be ordering one, but then again, I have $1,667,439.02 in my savings, so...

But, never mind that, does any of this matter...really? No, it's a new, big, badass iPad!!

Order me one too, mr. baller

 

[BornAgainMac]

Even if it were one dollar cheaper, the forum would have blown up about that!

Apple would save the dollar. It will still be $799 for us. They do this all the time to increase margins.

 

[coolspot18]

But keyboarding skills were not even close to being a high-status skill for over a half century. That was the secretary pools job. The janitor carried keys, not the boss. So my guess is that professionals will trend to touch interfaces and wireless connectivity, rather than miss "shortcuts" and USB toys.

Actually typing has become so important entrenched it's assumed you can type at a decent speed. You'll be laughed out of an office if you can't even chicken peck at ~25 - 30 WPM.

Why can't people just see it for what it is. It's a badass iPad.

I think it looks quite silly especially considering there are no apps that support it and no true "pro" features. I don't think the iPad Pro will sell all that well this first generation - perhaps with next years model when true Pro features come along.

The point is it can do things a computer can't or significantly enhance dong things a PC can do. I don't think the intention was to produce a high volume product per say. Rather I suspect the goal was to delver an item with significant unique capabilities.

What unique capabilities? The iPad Pro is such a niche product it's doomed to be a dud.

Surface Pro 3 is not superior because it runs Windows 10. Surface Pro 3 is underpowered to run the types of applications most people buy pro machines to run.

To those who want a Surface Pro 3 or 4, why don't you get it?

Surface Pro is decent for mid-range computing. Office for iOS is not the same as the full version of Office - it's missing a lot of features. Lastly, people always want to see what Apple releases and will wait for that shiny Apple logo, but with the release of this dud iPad, I'm sure there will be people jumping ship.

 

[Billy95Tech]

It's just a super sized iPad - still runs a phone OS, and cannot run OS X applications natively. Reminds me of Windows RT.

But keep in mind that Windows RT only supported and only can install apps from the Microsoft app store, you can't instal desktop programs and still now there is not a lot apps yet so that is why Windows RT flopped and died.


But compare that to IOS they already have lots of top quality apps and games that is for the Ipad Pro and over time developers will create a lot more apps for the Ipad Pro and take advantage of the power of the A9X chip.

So i think IOS definitely won't flop on the 12.9 inch Ipad Pro and unlike the Windows RT and now the Ipad Pro is real IOS will be become more advanced and not as limiting in the future!


IOS is the way forward for Ipads not OSX!!