Adobe Claims iPad Pro Has 4GB of RAM [Updated]

[AZREOSpecialist]

What a bunch of whiners...

Surface Pro 3 is not superior because it runs Windows 10. Surface Pro 3 is underpowered to run the types of applications most people buy pro machines to run. Surface Pro 3 is primarily good at running Office, which is now available for iOS. iOS is a much simpler user experience than Windows (insert version). That's the appeal of iPad and even Mac - much simplified over an unnecessarily complicated Windows experience.

Folks comparing iPad Pro to Surface RT clearly don't understand something: iOS is far superior than the gimped RT operating system. Windows mobile has no apps worth discussing and the experience is poor. iOS is mature, has hundreds of thousands of apps, and the push into the enterprise space will make iPad the preferred tablet for IT professionals and enterprises. It already is, by a wide margin if you look at the actual data, and this will only improve those numbers.

To those who want a Surface Pro 3 or 4, why don't you get it? I don't see you rushing out to buy one. It seems your current iPad experience is good enough to keep you away from Windows 10. Since that's the case, why would someone who wants the power of an iPad Pro suddenly need or want Windows 10?

Use some logic, people. Complaining for the sake of complaining is a poor use of your time.

 

[Boomish69]

I appreciate your experience, and I would definitely agree that for a school or a small faculty, Google's offerings are very tempting due to cost.

However in the larger scale education market and business market, people need reliable products with a stable OS, guaranteed updates, and second-to-none hardware/software support for enterprises. IBM/Apple are beginning to offer this, and in the next ~3 years I have no doubt that we'll see Apple dominate even more than they are at the moment. Time is money, as they say, and unless Google streamline an RMA process for larger companies or start raising their game with software updates, they're just going to fall further behind.

Yep I agree well this is my hope, my concern is from experience, schools don't change much tech due to budget restrictions, and most have been through through a ringer of developing tech thats a waste of time. The more Google establishes itself as practical answer for schools digital future the more it will become the standard, if it isn't already! I can't see Apple ever uprooting them from this. Big business might be Apple's market however after all they will pay for top notch hardware & software, where as general schools will make do, especially if it's free! This may well then lead to generations of kids and parents all using Google software at school and at home, surly that will have a major effect eventually. I worry Apple simply don't see this. Still it's great to ahve the competition & who knows I only see it form a UK schools perspective..A lot of the music & art schools still use Mac's thank goodness.

 

[Keane16]

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but really, it couldn't be simpler for some of us: no matter how more powerful iOS is at the present time (or in the near future).

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You have no idea what the future holds. Foolish to have this mindset.

You can't possibly say what software will be released. How well/badly it will run. What features will be added in addition to desktop versions and what will be missing. Crazy to live so glass half empty.

some of us work with software that the iPad pro -cannot- run. this makes it a prosumer item.

I'm afraid this is nonsense. I know people who use Windows software that the Mac cannot run. That doesn't make the Mac "prosumer". Whatever that term means.

Just because you have a use case that doesn't fit the device doesn't mean it's a fail/gimped/worthless piece of hardware. It just means you're not the target market currently, and possibly ever. Apple is a for profit company. Just like Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Samsung etc. they all employ some of the brightest minds in the business. Number one on their agenda is to stay profitable. If an OS X tablet was so great (and I've no doubt they attempted them in their labs) then we would have them. They've obviously decided on a different path. Luckily if users want a desktop based OS on a touchscreen device that runs traditional pro apps Windows exists.

Reminds me of the people who thinks iOS and Android are toys. I've seen both used commercially successfully. All about the use case.

and osx Yosemite HAS been (basically) optimized for touch, as cintiq hackintoshers have proven on youtube - mavericks was not optimized.

Some things may have been changed to make them more tap/touch friendly. But that's not the same as touch optimised. Not even close. Yosemite and El Capitan would be a horrible experience for a lot of people when used with a finger on a touchscreen. Horrible. (Window min/max/close to start).

this, plus watching surface pro users fire up adobe software and use a file system = disappointment. i'm blown away that some people can't wrap their heads around this..

Why not buy a Surface? What about OS X is so necessary? Surely as a "pro" your needs for a filesystem and Adobe software far outweighs the OS that runs them?

I like the path Apple has taken. Hopefully iOS keep growing. And the apps for the creatives continue to add features. Luckily I'm not stuck with one company. And if another offers what I need I won't stick around.

I'm blown away that people think they know better because they have ideas of a product versus a company that has vast resources and has probably tried these ideas for real. They're not perfect. And you may be right. But they've decided against what you want.

 

[Golden delicious]

After chuckling a little bit after seeing/reading about the iPad "Pro", I am happily going back to my Surface Pro 3 and will plug in a thumbdrive, SD card, and browse the local network to celebrate the launch of the iPad "Pro".

Maybe I'll recompile a few Visual Studio projects in the background as well while editing some some large PSD files.

....and for the 99% of us who do not care about any of the processes you mentioned we may find the Pro far more suitable (if we can afford one). The advantage of a Pro for say the business environment is that you can get a specific high quality app that does the job you want, the rest of what can be done is rather inconsequential. For consumers it makes a far better mobile gaming platform than the surface and in a different league for consumption. Yes the surface is better for a small sub set of power users (their tiny sales confirm that) but I suspect Apple have much much bigger ambitions for the Pro. I have had a surface pro and I just hated Windows 8 and that killed the experience for me, never again and the pro looks like my next purchase although it will take a while to save up for one.

 

[asiga]

The target customer of the iPad "Pro" doesn't need to know the RAM amount. I'm happy the iToys event is over. Now back to serious work, and hope there will be interesting new hardware in the October event, for us who use Apple for really professional work.

 

[rowspaxe]

... even though they gave this one of those crappy shallow flimsy keypad covers..

The keyboard cover is the most disappointing aspect of the release. Microsoft's adjustable kickstand is better
in every way...but especially for handwriting and sketching which is difficult on a flat tablet. And its $40 more
than the MS keyboard cover...with no trackpad!

 

[Jmausmuc]

And the original iPad, the iPad mini and all Android tablets are all super-sized iPod touches. That is why they have only sold 500+ million units so far.

It does, because most people who bought an iPad, me included, did so because they wanted to surf the web, listen to music and maybe watch video.
Light tasks. The iPad is great for that.

 

[rowspaxe]

Why would you want to run an OS that was not designed for tablet use on a tablet ? It would be a PITA to use, Microsoft tried doing that for over a decade and failed miserably. iOS is pretty much OS X anyway, just with a touch-based UI instead of the WIMP interface.

Surface is a hybrid device--windows 8.x , 10 are hybrid os's. If you wish to work in touch--use modern apps. If you wish to work with a trackpad or mouse on the desktop--thats supported. If you wish to work touch on the desktop--that is also supported. Somehow all this remains mysterious to apple users.

Apple critics have a stronger point that the app and game environment provided by MS is vastly inferior to ios, and that the ipad is still a simpler and more robust tool than the surface.

 

[rowspaxe]

Sorry, but at $799 both the stylus and the keyboard should be included...its just greed to maintain their fat margins but who's to blame them when there are fools out there ready to spend ridiculous amounts of money.

occupy cupertino!

 

[firewood]

I doubt this will be successful.
iOS is just too limited.

The metric of success might be that the iPad Pro makes more money for Apple than Microsoft makes selling its Surface tablets over the next year. This is quite likely.

And 1 million iOS developers are out to remove any real limitations of using their iOS apps. Only the fake limitations of users who want "faster horses" will remain.

It's just a super sized iPad - still runs a phone OS, and cannot run OS X applications natively.

This is a good thing. Brand new iOS apps and ecosystems will soon work far better than being stuck with an ancient (30+ year old) mouse-based desktop UI on a modern integrated multi-touch/pencil-based mobile device. Add 3Dtouch next year and the headroom will increase even more.

 

[vampyr]

I'd really like to see Apple do something that combines the iPad with a laptop. Imagine how cool it would be if you could dock your screen to the laptop and it runs in screen only mode, using the power resources of the laptop... but when you disconnect the screen, it becomes an iPad and runs everything from your iPad.

 

[firewood]

Why doesn't this run OS X again?

Because this is a different product for different users and/or different use cases than the new, similarly portable, MacBook (which does run OS X), or heavier MacBook Air. Why sell different products unless they do something unique and different enough? If you want a new MacBook, buy that, not an iPad Pro and complain about it.

 

[firewood]

Call me when it can natively run a terminal and let me being a root user

I already can (to my linux servers) from my current iPad. Plus have a secure device I can carry out of the office. Best of both worlds.

 

[kodos]

....and for the 99% of us who do not care about any of the processes you mentioned we may find the Pro far more suitable (if we can afford one). The advantage of a Pro for say the business environment is that you can get a specific high quality app that does the job you want, the rest of what can be done is rather inconsequential. For consumers it makes a far better mobile gaming platform than the surface and in a different league for consumption. Yes the surface is better for a small sub set of power users (their tiny sales confirm that) but I suspect Apple have much much bigger ambitions for the Pro. I have had a surface pro and I just hated Windows 8 and that killed the experience for me, never again and the pro looks like my next purchase although it will take a while to save up for one.

My Surface Pro 3 can stream XBox games and run Steam games natively, which are in a completely different league from most mobile offerings (read: iPad "Pro" games). If the iPad "Pro" remains a niche product in the iOS lineup (and I have every expectation that it will) it is unlikely many games will be natively built for it, so you will be playing iPad games blown up on the iPad Pro. And we know what iPad games are like compared to PC titles.

As far as high quality business apps on iPad, those remain to be seen and are far out. I predict that Professionals will eventually get tired of missing out on keyboard shortcuts, trackpads, a USB port to quickly exchange files, etc.

I think this is just post Steve Jobs Apple desperate to try to make products that stick, sort of like Samsung does now that their innovation days seem to be over.

I expect Tim Cook to relegate iPad Pro to "hobby" status in a future earnings call with Apple Watch and Apple TV, as iPhones continue to fuel the company's revenue.

 

[robeddie]

I think this is just post Steve Jobs Apple desperate to try to make products that stick, sort of like Samsung does now that their innovation days seem to be over.

I expect Tim Cook to relegate iPad Pro to "hobby" status in a future earnings call with Apple Watch and Apple TV, as iPhones continue to fuel the company's revenue.

BANG. Done. THIS is the definitive post of all this silly back and forth arguing.

 

[craig1410]

BANG. Done. THIS is the definitive post of all this silly back and forth arguing.

Oh no it isn't...

 

[craig1410]

Ok, so that justifies the $99?

I don't know and neither do you until we have a chance to try it out in a store. The press and tech pundits who were lucky enough to get a hands-on session with it seem to have come away quite impressed. I know I spent something like £89 (around $135) on a Logitech iPad keyboard shell for my iPad 3 back in the day so if the Apple keyboard case is as good as the initial impressions suggest then I'll be very happy to pay a similar amount of money I expect. Alternatively I might wait for a good third party keyboard.

 

[Piggie]

I suppose the same could be said 3 years ago when Apple introduced the new Mac PRO. A niche product for "Pro's" that apparently hasn't made Apple the billions they thought and has since languished and is rumored to be discontinued.

Stick an overclocked 5Ghz i7 Skylake, 32GB Ram, and Twin GTX980Ti's in the Mac Pro and watch it fly off the shelves

 

[Dranix]

4 gigs of RAM is nice, but I just still don't get this product. Why make a product with such niche demand. I can't see anyone other than maybe artists and students buying this. The main problem is in the software, not the hardware. This just looks like a solution to a problem no one was asking.

Well call me nobody as this is *EXACTLY* what I was waiting for.

 

[Piggie]

I do wonder if Apple has done Msoft a BIG service here at showing off the iPad Pro-ish and announcing it's price, BEFORE Microsoft launch the new Surface Pro 4 machines very soon now.

Now Microsoft know exactly the target they have to hit.

 

[wizard]

Not anymore,ios9 you can do more it has multitasking/split view etc and i thing in the next 2 years iOS will be really complex and still private and not open source

Which does nothing to overcome iPads use in a professional environment, especially one where notebooks are used e problem with iPad isn't the apps nor the multitasking, it is rather the lack of user control.

 

[wizard]

The price. It is just so expensive for such a niche product. The pricing works for the surface b.c it can actually run desktop programs. $799 for a large iPad is incredibly niche.

Tablets are a niche themselves!!

The price is stiff but on the other hand it is all bleeding edge technology. If the display lives up to billing, along with the processor, it will be a very state of the art product.

 

[redscull]

It's almost as if it's called iPad Pro for a reason. I already have a lot of ideas for it, none of which are graphics/illustration related, which is their primary target. It also would be a wonderful laptop/computer replacement for grandparents/parents or others who do not need a full computer (i.e., relative simplicity of iOS) and who could benefit from the larger screen.

A casual user won't benefit from the larger screen. Illustrators, multi-taskers, and other power users will make use of the larger screen. A casual user can browse emails and internet and Facebook perfectly fine on a normal iPad. It's not as if any of the onscreen elements (icons, text, etc) are larger or easier to see. They're all the exact same size. The screen just holds more of them at once now.

 

[cult hero]

You're prophesy is unsettling, but probably correct. Our corporate media masters have been trying for over a decade to switch us all over to a locked down OS like iOS where our ability to manipulate files on our own is limited, and subject to being eliminated completely at their whim. The only thing they want us to have computers for is for social manipulation, for which we are supposed to pay them for the privilege of said manipulation. They're almost there. Worse than television because at least the TV didn't watch us all the time and track our every movement.

I know there is a lot of fear mongering about this but... it doesn't make any sense. Professionals in particular that use devices as more than toys NEED access to filesystems and such. Developers can't do their job without it. Go to a developers conference that's on a non-Microsoft specific technology—especially web devs—and you'll see HORDES of Macs these days. Devs are what make the App Store. Devs are the lifeblood of all of this. We need actual computers. It would be utter suicide to get rid of a general purpose computer. Macs aren't going anywhere. If there is a fusion of OSes, there's going to have to be a "root" mode at some point because... you know... devs.

 

[Ghost31]

What about if it ran BOTH.

Dock the keyboard and you can then run OSX full version, or select iOS as you would with the un-docked keyboard.

No reason why this could not be done.

Apple could have a dual chip a9x and a core m so it does well with cooking and is able to boot either operating system. Dock it and boom. OS X. Use a Bluetooth mouth and the keyboard it comes with. Undock it and you have iOS