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"The iPad Prosumer" is more like it.

for those of us who work with desktop class software every minute of every day of our lives ,and use said software in our workflow, why would anyone question our desires for OS X on a tablet - when there are other brands that DO offer such luxuries? you might not see how OS X on a magazine sized tablet using a stylus would be PERFECT for us, but hey - you aren't us, clearly.

if you have a problem with our disappointment in apple for gimping this device when we've been waiting so long for them to crush the surface pro, there's a nifty 'block' feature on this site. so use it.
 
I think I'm going to get one, so long as it is still *reasonably* light and portable. It'll be an amazing (if slightly expensive) portable TV for watching BBC iPlayer, Sky Go etc. Web browsing should be awesome too. Personally that's all I use my (v3) iPad for today and, for me, bigger will be better for these things.

And the price is relative too: iPad Pro + Pencil + Keyboard + Apple TV still leaves you change vs the Hermes strap. Bargain!
 
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But you will miss out on the 4 speakers. Everyone needs 4 Speakers!
My bad, I forgot how 4 speakers would really enrich my productivity compared to say having a trackpad on the keyboard so I don't have to move my hand to the screen every time I needed to select something. Didn't Apple actually say they didn't want to create a touchscreen laptop for this very reason- i.e. it makes your arm hurt after a while. #confusedAppleDesignTeam
 
For specialized applications, the Pro is good. Look at what they demoed: creative software, medical, business (Office) apps. That's the market. It's not going to drive a lot of consumer growth, but I think it'll do fairly well within business environments where there's a specialized app; especially with the IBM/Cisco partnership.
 
OMG shut up about the SP3 already. I hear Windows 10 isn't great for touch input. But that's the point of touch. It's for touch. Apple's solution to touch screen devices is start from the ground up with fingers as the input and slowly but surely add more powerful features. Apple's solution and philosophy is a far better one. If you want a SP3 go buy one and stop telling us about it. By not allowing desktop apps on your tablet it forces innovation for touch, for fingers, and devs often surprise you.
You know, you don't have to come here to read the comments. The guy can tell us about surface pro 3 all he wants. This product is a direct competitor to that. Makes sense to make the comparison. I think it's perfectly fine to do so.
 
So 4 gigs of ram they say. I think that makes logical sense for this device. The price point gives to the fact they do not see this as a every year flip for users. They see this has a multiyear use product like a laptop.
I have a user that has all but converted to an iPad. They are excited about this new iPad with a larger screen. They have a perfectly good macbook air but they just have there iPad with them at all times and it gets 95% of the use.

I could say oh well this user is stupid use the macbook air, but they get what they need done and they like it so who am i to judge.

I my self am a keyboard cowboy with out a keyboard I would struggle to get anything productive done.
 
OMG shut up about the SP3 already. I hear Windows 10 isn't great for touch input. But that's the point of touch. It's for touch. Apple's solution to touch screen devices is start from the ground up with fingers as the input and slowly but surely add more powerful features. Apple's solution and philosophy is a far better one. If you want a SP3 go buy one and stop telling us about it. By not allowing desktop apps on your tablet it forces innovation for touch, for fingers, and devs often surprise you.

Why shut up about the SP3? This is the product the iPad Pro will be compared to the most. The SP3 actually looks like a better product for most people wanting a laptop/tablet hybrid. IBM will force the iPad Pro down the throats of their employees, but for the rest of us we'll chose and SP3. I can see the iPad Pro being great for artists and gamers though
 
It will sell to a niche set (perhaps graphics artists). I wouldn't ever purchase an iPad Pro at this price point, much rather get a Surface Pro which gives me Windows 10. Apple made it a low volume product by putting this in direct competition with a full computer...

I think that Apple is doing things a bit on the slow side but seems to be doing things right. Windows RT was a hot mess and they are just starting to get things better with Windows 10, but it's still Windows. Apple with iOS 9 is now allowing two windows and needs to let the apps catch up to leverage it. by putting out a larger screen and a keyboard, it will start to play well in the IBM relationship, I believe. Their hardware is also way better than 99% of what vendors put out in the windows/android worlds. I suspect that if apps upgrade quickly to leverage the side by side windows we will see Apple push the envelope further with iOS10. We are clearly seeing a bleed over now, and as I have been saying, I do expect iOS10 (11 at the latest) to be the tipping point where the iPad will replace the laptop which has already replaced the desktop.

To give you a concrete example - I am stuck with a laptop at work running windows 7. Hate the hardware and hate the OS. I bring in my personal iPad with a Keyboard cover and use that for most of my research work. When I have to send an email or book a meeting, then I have to use my work computer (because I am not Hillary and I don't use my personal server for work related emails :D).

If my office gave me a BYOD option for the laptop, I would go with the iPad Pro. I has way more power and capability of the 4 year old $#!t that my work gives me (hell my iphone 6 does too, just too small a screen).
 
It won't happen. Don't wish. iOS can take over OSX someday.

You're prophesy is unsettling, but probably correct. Our corporate media masters have been trying for over a decade to switch us all over to a locked down OS like iOS where our ability to manipulate files on our own is limited, and subject to being eliminated completely at their whim. The only thing they want us to have computers for is for social manipulation, for which we are supposed to pay them for the privilege of said manipulation. They're almost there. Worse than television because at least the TV didn't watch us all the time and track our every movement.
 
"The iPad Prosumer" is more like it.

for those of us who work with desktop class software every minute of every day of our lives ,and use said software in our workflow, why would anyone question our desires for OS X on a tablet - when there are other brands that DO offer such luxuries? you might not see how OS X on a magazine sized tablet using a stylus would be PERFECT for us, but hey - you aren't us, clearly.

if you have a problem with our disappointment in apple for gimping this device when we've been waiting so long for them to crush the surface pro, there's a nifty 'block' feature on this site. so use it.

Likewise, you can block people that question the validity of OS X on a tablet. It's a two-way street.
 
OMG shut up about the SP3 already. I hear Windows 10 isn't great for touch input. But that's the point of touch. It's for touch. Apple's solution to touch screen devices is start from the ground up with fingers as the input and slowly but surely add more powerful features. Apple's solution and philosophy is a far better one. If you want a SP3 go buy one and stop telling us about it. By not allowing desktop apps on your tablet it forces innovation for touch, for fingers, and devs often surprise you.

So, you've never used Windows 10 on a touch device? You're hardly qualified to weigh in here, then, are you?

You're making the same general assumption most people stuck in a single OS camp make - incorrectly. The Surface Pro is a laptop replacement. The iPad Pro will be a bigger iPad. They are still completely different animals. You're assertion that "...devs often surprise you." may be true, but still widely limited by the iOS platform and a purely mobile cpu (though they're getting more and more capable).

I can tell you, based on my personal experience going back to school for a nursing degree, that the Surface Pro is superior in every way to an iPad for educational purposes. The additional capabilities offered in the iPad Promthat we were shown yesterday get it closer, but it still won't be as useful in the academic environment. That environment, by the way, offers a direct parallel view into its usefulness in most business applications. I tried to bend an iPad to meet my needs for over a semester, and finally gave the SP a shot. It was immediately clear the SP was the proper tool for the job.

As a lifelong photographer, I find iOS a superior environment for image processing. I can easily imagine the new architecture and iOS will make the iPad Pro an indispensable tool for photographers in the field - whether shooting weddings, or in an actual field. Between my iPhone and iPad (along with a few correlated apps), I can get my images that need processing to 90% where I'd like them. The ease with which I can do it is exponentially better in iOS than on my SP or desktop, even though I have a deeper set of processing options there.

The bottom line will always fall under using the right tool for the job. Don't be so narrow minded as to convince yourself that a single OS or device will ever perfectly meet anyone's needs. That device doesn't yet exist.
 
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Call me when it can run OsX ....
Why would you want to run an OS that was not designed for tablet use on a tablet ? It would be a PITA to use, Microsoft tried doing that for over a decade and failed miserably. iOS is pretty much OS X anyway, just with a touch-based UI instead of the WIMP interface.
 
Because of large screen, GPU will be consuming a lot of memory for graphics from shared RAM.

If I remember correctly, macbook used to have 144mb of shared graphics memory for a resolution of 800px. iPad Pro has resolution of 2048px that may take upto 512mb memory or more. With so many fancy new features, not much memory will be left for poor RAM hungry user! ;)
 
After chuckling a little bit after seeing/reading about the iPad "Pro", I am happily going back to my Surface Pro 3 and will plug in a thumbdrive, SD card, and browse the local network to celebrate the launch of the iPad "Pro".

Maybe I'll recompile a few Visual Studio projects in the background as well while editing some some large PSD files.
 
"Adobe's updated press release no longer mentions 4GB of RAM."

Yet many news sites are still claiming 4GB with a reference to Adobe...
 
All I can say is that I kind of expect the iPad Pro to have at least 4GB memory. That would put it on par storage and memory-wise with the $999 SP3. So I hope it does, otherwise I will be more tempted to get a competing device. Apple really needs to stop holding back so hard on device specs.
I would also have preferred a 256GB option.
 
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