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Adobe Claims iPad Pro Has 4GB of RAM [Updated]

Adding the expensive price of a whole (and more accurate) Wacom tablet just for a stylus, on an also expensive tablet that has a 8 years old mobile OS...

Missed opportunity. Too much greed is okay when you have the vision of Steve Jobs, regular and actually useful innovations, great specs AND at least nice design. But the last Apple products are becoming way too abusive for even the most gullible, lobotomised customers to follow.

This keynote was disappointing, and I'm not sure last years surprising iPhone 6 and Apple Watch (which sold more than it should have for a weak and ugly product) results will be repeated in 2016.
 
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ghost187 said:
This thing is likely quad core as well. If everyone here can get over the fact that it was never going to run OSX, you'd realize this is the best device they announced Wednesday because, Apple pulled no punches with this one.
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Except a 64GB option :-/
 
mattopotamus said:
The price. It is just so expensive for such a niche product. The pricing works for the surface b.c it can actually run desktop programs. $799 for a large iPad is incredibly niche.
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The iPad of any size is no longer a niche product. The iPad Pro will have great success in this market much quicker than most will expect. In terms of price, that's up to how the purchaser feels and if it's worth it to him/her to make the purchase.
 
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Serban said:
Not anymore,ios9 you can do more it has multitasking/split view etc and i thing in the next 2 years iOS will be really complex and still private and not open source
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I have to laugh at the 'ios is too limited" crowd. There's no limit to how powerful iOS can be. The problem is with you old fogies :p who are fixated on file systems. This is a 20th century computing paradigm. In 20 years your idea of computing will be relegated to niche use cases. The revolution has been underway for a while now.
 
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I just don't get all the grumpiness about the iPad Pro needing OS-X.

I've been working for several months with an Panasonic FZ-G1 and using windows 10 has been sometimes really easy, other times really frustrating on a touch device. And mind you, this tablet also has a wacom screen build in.
But I don't want to need a pen for simple navigation or clicking through a form. Then I want to use my fingers. So even windows 10 (which I like a lot better then windows 8.0 or 8.1) is still often a bit frustrating to use.

Last two weeks I've been using an iPad air (1) to read hundreds of pages for my study and it has been a delight to use, because it's so smooth to use, because it's more then powerful enough, and yet it doesn't need a fan that makes a lot of noise and it doesn't run hot because it decides that when I'm studying, it can start up some maintenance/virus scanner.

The iPad Pro certainly won't be perfect for every user case, it might even be just for a few niches really good, but in my case, when studying law and reading several 100 pages of online textbook per week and referencing law books several 100 times per day while just typing 1-2 pages a week, it might be a really nice device!
Reading A4 sized pages! Where can I pre-order?
 
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4 gigs of RAM is nice, but I just still don't get this product. Why make a product with such niche demand. I can't see anyone other than maybe artists and students buying this. The main problem is in the software, not the hardware. This just looks like a solution to a problem no one was asking.
 
Gasu E. said:
I have to laugh at the 'ios is too limited" crowd. There's no limit to how powerful iOS can be. The problem is with you old fogies :p who are fixated on file systems. This is a 20th century computing paradigm. In 20 years your idea of computing will be relegated to niche use cases. The revolution has been underway for a while now.
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What do you think people use to make the apps on your IOS devices? Other IOS devices or possibly a proper computer OS?

I am sure it will be fine for facebook and netflix, but most professional people need a bit more than that.
 
Andres Cantu said:
This is going to be a beast iPad! An A9X that is much more powerful than the already fast A8X AND 4GB of RAM?
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Not really, it still has to push almost double the number of pixels as on the Air2, thats where most of the processor speed gains will be eaten up...
 
wbrat said:
The worst thing is that they will keep iPad Air underspec. now, just to show how good iPad Pro is. This is crazy. I guess no iPad Air update this October...
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I'm surprised more people aren't commenting on this. They essentially just raised the price of the flagship iPad by $300.

I found most of yesterday's announcements disappointing. Sigh. Maybe I'll just have to find an android phone I like. Ugh. I just threw up in my mouth a little.
 
HenryDJP said:
The iPad of any size is no longer a niche product. The iPad Pro will have great success in this market much quicker than most will expect. In terms of price, that's up to how the purchaser feels and if it's worth it to him/her to make the purchase.
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Sorry, but at $799 both the stylus and the keyboard should be included...its just greed to maintain their fat margins but who's to blame them when there are fools out there ready to spend ridiculous amounts of money.
 
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kazmac said:
4 gb of RAM would almost make it worth it. At least give it a little bit more longevity.
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At the end of the day it's still an iPad. Imagine the possibilities if this ran an operating system like Windows 10. IOS is just to limited to be a desktop replacement. And at this price you can get a more powerful Windows 2 in 1 machine.
 
alecgold said:
I just don't get all the grumpiness about the iPad Pro needing OS-X.

I've been working for several months with an Panasonic FZ-G1 and using windows 10 has been sometimes really easy, other times really frustrating on a touch device. And mind you, this tablet also has a wacom screen build in.
But I don't want to need a pen for simple navigation or clicking through a form. Then I want to use my fingers. So even windows 10 (which I like a lot better then windows 8.0 or 8.1) is still often a bit frustrating to use.

Last two weeks I've been using an iPad air (1) to read hundreds of pages for my study and it has been a delight to use, because it's so smooth to use, because it's more then powerful enough, and yet it doesn't need a fan that makes a lot of noise and it doesn't run hot because it decides that when I'm studying, it can start up some maintenance/virus scanner.

The iPad Pro certainly won't be perfect for every user case, it might even be just for a few niches really good, but in my case, when studying law and reading several 100 pages of online textbook per week and referencing law books several 100 times per day while just typing 1-2 pages a week, it might be a really nice device!
Reading A4 sized pages! Where can I pre-order?
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The Dell venue tablet (not sure which one, a friend has it) has I believe a similar processor to the latest macbook (core m) and doesn't need a fan, and runs Windows 10. Not as fast as the SP3 but a good compromise.

The iPad is a great device, and as someone who wants to see OSX on an iPad, I wouldn't want to see iOS go away as its still the choice for full touch (currently anyway). I still use my air (1) often. It would be nice to have a hybrid tablet that runs both. Maybe have the iPad Air series run just iOS, and a (future) "pro" model run both. Then if your needs are completely filled by iOS just run iOS apps and if you need to run some desktop apps you have the option. I really don't see why people have such strong issues against this. It's a laptop, it's an ipad. Best of both. I don't think it would eat into revenue for either the iPad Air or the MB(P)'s as it wouldn't be as "cheap" as an iPad, and at the price of a laptop but not as powerful there would still be the need for those.
 
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jimbobb24 said:
This * 100. They said it was an iPad air made mini when its not at all. Apple without Jobs is a little more shady because Cooks background is all about margins.
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Oh my god, people are clueless. Literally the only difference between the iPad Air 2 and iPad mini 4 is the A8 vs A8x chip. And the iPad Air can afford to use it because it has a larger battery, and the A8x chip sucks up more power.
 
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prism said:
Sorry, but at $799 both the stylus and the keyboard should be included...its just greed to maintain their fat margins but who's to blame them when there are fools out there ready to spend ridiculous amounts of money.
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They should have also given you the moon on a stick too I take it ....


If you are objective and look at alternative devices in its category / and its target market then the price is very competitive.

It clearly isn't designed for you (and the others here critics of it) but surprisingly not everything they release has to be...

Likewise just because you may not be in the target market for it, doesn't make it a bad product.
 
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cdm283813 said:
At the end of the day it's still an iPad. Imagine the possibilities if this ran an operating system like Windows 10. IOS is just to limited to be a desktop replacement. And at this price you can get a more powerful Windows 2 in 1 machine.
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Indeed, it is still an iPad and costly. A desktop replacement or a laptop are still superior. I agree with these points.

I have all the Windows I need at work. People's usage and needs are different. If Windows is your thing, great. While a 2-in-1 works for some folks and it falls neatly into that price range, I still prefer to stick with one OS if possible.

For my own work / consumption, I much prefer OS X, and to a lesser extent, iOS (for all the annoyances lately both of these still easier for me.) If the iPad Mini 4 has 2gb of RAM that will be my consumption device and I'll stick with an Apple desktop for the heavy lifting.
 
dannyyankou said:
What do you mean they "lied"? They said it has the A8 chip when they introduced it, and it does split view so it definitely has 2GB of ram.
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No. They said it was upgraded to iPad Air 2 levels. A8 does not equal A8X. Apple lied plain and simple. They spent less than thirty seconds on the thing to avoid telling the truth.
 
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At the end of the day it's still an iPad. Imagine the possibilities if this ran an operating system like Windows 10. IOS is just to limited to be a desktop replacement. And at this price you can get a more powerful Windows 2 in 1 machine.
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And yet as an illustrator who has bought and used these 'superior' alternatives - the reality is that they often are flawed and not as great at the task as one would imagine. Until windows third party apps step up to hi DPI mode often apps are broken or flawed when used with windows DPI UI scaling. You then adjust this to 100-125% and the ui becomes so small that using the apps becomes an exercise in frustration navigating their toolbars and UI. Sketchbook Pro, Corel Painter and others are not optimised for windows and neither is windows at standard DPI scaling optimised for touch input. The reality is for many of us, iOS provides a far more optimised and workable solution than the supposed superior' alternative that you are touting.
 
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cdm283813 said:
No. They said it was upgraded to iPad Air 2 levels. A8 does not equal A8X. Apple lied plain and simple. They spent less than thirty seconds on the thing to avoid telling the truth.
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Check the edit I made and look up the difference between A8 vs A8x. iPad mini requires less to drive graphics.
 
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