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Part of the issue was Apple changing its mind last minute on the Carbon 64 issue. Adobe had already finished a Carbon 64 version with a plan to release CS5 in full Cocoa but things changed. Thats why Windows has a 64 bit version and CS4 is crap. They had to rush something out. CS5 is suppose to be a 100% Cocoa rewritten 64 bit application.
 
Waiting a few months for Snow Leopard is in no way going to disable or diminish Leopard in any way. (And you get to let everyone else deal with the inevitable bugs for a few months).

Unlike oh...say...Adobe....Apple will continue to issue security updates for Leopard for at least another year. Just as they did for Tiger.

And hopefully, CS5 will make an appearance by Spring 2010.

Sometimes, I hate being patient. Sigh. Even I want Snow Leopard now.
 
Uh, were is everybody finding these cheap upgrade prices for CS4? It says I'll have to send them $499 for a non-useful version on CS4.

I only upgrade every other version and going to CS4 without it being 64-bit just isn't helpful.
 

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Hmm, seems lke they're following apples example for their windows programs. Apples windows appications other than safari 4 have always not used native windows implementations of gdi elements or support aero correctly. Apple is worse about this than adobe.

True, however at least when Apple updates a version of their software on Mac they also update it Windows. It's not like the Mac has iTunes 8 and Windows has iTunes 5. That's what Adobe does to the Mac customers, we have the old version and Windows has the latest.
 
You mean Adobe has officially declared that they will CS3 on Windows 7?

Good point...

http://forums.adobe.com/message/2141762

CS3 did install and run under Vista 64-bit although it wasn't officially supported. Given the age of CS3, it will unlikely be tested either for install or operation under Windows 7, much less officially supported.

Bottom line is that you are effectively totally on your own with this combination.
 
Adobe freaking SUCKS! I am so sick of their BS. I hope they burn. This is so freaking lame. CS3 still has very obvious bugs in Leopard for crying out loud, and now this? :rolleyes: SCREW YOU ADOBE!

Apple, PLEASE make a Photoshop killer, I would switch instantly!

Take some valium and please go lay down for a bit. CS3 works in SL. All software has bugs. Leopard was the buggiest OSX evah. The sun will not blow up tomorrow. Don't worry. Be happy.
 
Waiting a few months for Snow Leopard is in no way going to disable or diminish Leopard in any way. (And you get to let everyone else deal with the inevitable bugs for a few months).

Unlike oh...say...Adobe....Apple will continue to issue security updates for Leopard for at least another year. Just as they did for Tiger.

And hopefully, CS5 will make an appearance by Spring 2010.

Sometimes, I hate being patient. Sigh. Even I want Snow Leopard now.
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The only Snow Leopard workstation in the entire organization (unless we have to buy new equipment) is going to be mine - essentially so I can figure this crap out on the front end so that by the time I feel there's enough application compatibility and stability for it to go organization-wide, I'll be fairly well versed in it (and re-familiarized with the Peachpit books for 10.6).

My hope is very similar - by the time I'll be considering implementing SL across the organization, CS5 will be out as well (which is at least rumored to be a major upgrade). That combination would make CS5 a worthwhile purchase for our designers and video people, as I'm also planning to update our older G5 towers for them by 2010 as well.
 
i wonder why the fuss is all about.

No business user or professhional should ever upgrade to SL for another six months. By then i guess CS5 will be almost there.

People might argue that SL has a better start than leopard. But with every OS, there are bugs that take time to fix. I wonder why apple has just finished fixing bugs in its leopard OS. is it because it is time to for leopard to be deserted? No, it is time for leopard to be used until SL get fixed.

Some printing industry still use OS9 and people cant live with Leopard for one more year. what a shame.
 
I like how everyone is outraged by Adobe dropping support but defend Apple dropping PPC support by saying it's to make the OS better.

Adobe will probably have a major re write ala SL to take advantages of all the latest features and don't want to be bogged down by legacy code, and I don't blame them for that. I applaud them.

At the end of the day, both companies are out to make money. A lot of Apple fans boast about Apple's high margins and how much more money they make than cheaper PC manufacturers. I would assume they would be able to understand Adobe's position as well.
 
...wait till CS5. It should becoming out sooner than later.... I'm hoping :(

Hopefully, CS5 will gain all the needs/wants from having a 64-bit OS. CS5 could be epic!

CS5 is supposed to be a complete rewrite. In other words, be prepared for it to be buggy as heck.
 
Just in case it hasn't been posted yet, Adobe screwed Vista users as well. They did not update the current versions of their software to be compatible with Vista. Here is the release:

http://www.adobe.com/support/products/pdfs/adobe_products_and_windows_vista.pdf

Adobe is already preparing to release the next versions of its professional creative products, including Adobe Photoshop, InDesign, Dreamweaver, Flash, and After Effects, in the Spring and Summer 2007 and does not plan to issue updates to current versions of those products for Windows Vista compatibility.

So it's not just you Mac users, Adobe hates ALL of its customers!
 
I like how everyone is outraged by Adobe dropping support but defend Apple dropping PPC support by saying it's to make the OS better.

Adobe will probably have a major re write ala SL to take advantages of all the latest features and don't want to be bogged down by legacy code, and I don't blame them for that. I applaud them.

At the end of the day, both companies are out to make money. A lot of Apple fans boast about Apple's high margins and how much more money they make than cheaper PC manufacturers. I would assume they would be able to understand Adobe's position as well.

Considering I've got our old designer's "high end" G4 tower still in service as an everyday workstation (because it has enough hardware durability to actually still be useful for users doing Web and word processing tasks), I definitely can't defend Apple dropping PPC - especially since our early 2005 G5 towers could easily remain in play as everyday workstations for several more years after they rotate out of design/video use.
 
So it's not just you Mac users, Adobe hates ALL of its customers!

Actually, Adobe's *big* customers don't immediately upgrade to the latest OS, unlike the hobbyists who hang out here posting every change in their shipping notices.

So, Adobe's stance on Vista was reasonable - they had a release scheduled within month's of Vista's full availability, and they targeted full support for that release.
 
12 pages of crap when CS3 does work on Snow Leopard. Hell, The Register even had CS1 running on Snow Leopard.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/08/25/preview_os_apple_snow_leopard/page7.html

In terms of compatibility, I had no problems with a series of applications I tried: Microsoft Office 2008, a six-year-old version of Adobe Photoshop, even applications that use low level I/O, such as Amadeus Pro and Audio Hijack. Both required updates last time around. The only software that couldn't run was one called Blogo.

Adobe were talking about 'technical support'.
 
The main thing is that Mac users are shown the willingness to be ripped off. SL might cost less than Windows 7 but in the long run, updating all your software so that it's not buggy will make the total cost of ownership higher than having a PC.

If you don't like it, vote with your wallet. That's how capitalism works folks. They will keep charging you whatever you're willing to pay and Mac users have a higher amount of money to give away.
 
The main thing is that Mac users are shown the willingness to be ripped off. SL might cost less than Windows 7 but in the long run, updating all your software so that it's not buggy will make the total cost of ownership higher than having a PC.

If you don't like it, vote with your wallet. That's how capitalism works folks. They will keep charging you whatever you're willing to pay and Mac users have a higher amount of money to give away.

What are you talking about?

Who says you have to update all of your software???
 
hmmm.... people need to chillax and wait for further testing and documentation for new OS releases and compatibility....

if you have CS3 why rush to SL... not like it changes your experiences?
 
I'm not giving Adobe any more money until they can get Flash Player to work without using 100% CPU.

Looks like I'm sticking with CS3 and Leopard.
 
What Kind of Company is it?

I will not pay for $500 more for the support. If there is another product, I will 100% switch to it.:mad:
 
I'm not giving Adobe any more money until they can get Flash Player to work without using 100% CPU.
Yet again, another small developer out does Adobe...

Eltima Free Flash Player
http://mac.eltima.com/freeflashplayer.html

Unlike the Adobe Flash Player that just blasts SWFs to the screen with zero control, this player has controls, frame counter, ability to scrub back and forth and play a sequence of SWF files. Oh, and it's free for Mac and Windows.
 
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