Adobe Creative Suite 5 Now Shipping, Free Trials Available

[Tailpike1153]

Oh, and Fireworks users? Check this link for a full list of changes in CS5.

I'd admit to bug fixes and even name a few but to have someone post that 900 bug were fixed? Holy Fuschnickens! Oh, the flow will break you down. Does Adobe even care about its user base? THat is serious messed up when you can serve up an expensive piece of sh** to your customers and still stay in business. Well look at Microsoft and Vista. At least Microsoft apologized for Vista and released Win7.

 

[splitpea]

$2500 for all that software is not expensive and you can just buy the upgrade which starts at $899

In this case I can't buy just the upgrade. Long story, but my current license technically belongs to my former employer, and the last license I have is too old to upgrade.

And $899... yeah, that's better. But it's still "only" a month's rent.

and it's a tax deduction

Which only means that I have to earn $2000 to spend $2000, instead of earning $3200 to spend $2000. It doesn't mean the $2000 is free.

Sorry, I'm a little snippy about money at the moment. Between buying a new Mac this year, having to upgrade CS (among other things) to run on it, and a recession, I'm in a position where I'm not certain to be able to pay the rent without dipping into savings.

 

[wilycoder]

Please the fact is if it keygens werent avail, more people would buy the product and there are education versions that can be had for around 400 for some of the suites

Aww geez not this crap again.

Piracy does not cause increased prices. And no, I do not pirate software and I am not defending it. But you need to stop spreading lies.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Aww geez not this crap again.

Piracy does not cause increased prices. And no, I do not pirate software and I am not defending it. But you need to stop spreading lies.

So less sales is not equal to less profitability which in turn is not equal to higher prices? Well than that throws out the whole, Apples are expensive because you are paying for R&D and other expenses theory, because I am sure Adobe needs to recoup those losses as well.

CS was never intended on being a consumer level product. It is what it is. Its a professional suite of software. This reminds me of all the people whining on Digidesigns website about Protools being expensive. Its made for professionals.

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

So...it's Adobe's fault that people pirate their software? Riiiiiiight.

Check the reality, before you say "piracy" is bad for Adobe Inc.!

This comes directly from Adobe Inc., and is just an example, in this case for Q1 2010:
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/pdfs/Q1_10_10-Q_final_certified.pdf

The numbers are more interesting than this statement:

We actively pursue software pirates as part of our enforcement of our intellectual property rights, but we nonetheless lose significant revenue due to illegal use of our software. If piracy activities increase, it may further harm our business.

And now what!? You still claim "piracy" is bad or a problem for Adobe Inc.? Why do you not calm down a bit!?

 

[ranReloaded]

Is anyone else having trouble being about to download the CS5 trials from adobe? I have tried 3 browsers thinking it was a browser issue, but they all are locking up at the download page. I am unable to click the yellow "Download Now" button. Chrome is sitting at "Waiting for adobe.tt.omtrdc.net".... Opera locks up when i try to click it, and safari wont let me click it at all.

Is their a secondary download site, or any suggestions in resolving this issue.

Please don't tell me you can only download the trials with IE!!!

 

[wilycoder]

So less sales is not equal to less profitability which in turn is not equal to higher prices? Well than that throws out the whole, Apples are expensive because you are paying for R&D and other expenses theory, because I am sure Adobe needs to recoup those losses as well.

You cannot prove that a download of pirated software is a lost sale.

CS was never intended on being a consumer level product. It is what it is. Its a professional suite of software. This reminds me of all the people whining on Digidesigns website about Protools being expensive. Its made for professionals.

THAT ^^^ is why adobe is expensive, and rightfully so. Small (niche) market=high prices.

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

Really?

This is why the software is 1k +

Then Windows 7 Ultimate should cost 5k+.

 

[jeffereyj]

For those who don't know the Adobe CS4 trial hijacked your system and wouldn't let you open your legal bought and paid for CS3 until you had a CS4 license. And good luck reinstalling CS3 because even using app cleaner programs, you couldn't reinstall CS3 once the CS4 trial was on the machine because halfway through the CS3 install it asked for the CS4 disks!

Adobe had no solution to this either but instead recommended to upgrade to the "great new features" of CS4....


If someone can confirm that the crappy installer is gone I may try this...

ugh. so anyone want to give impressions of the CS5 installer and how it affects previous legit copies of CS3/CS4.....?

i'm specifically interested on how it affects AI, PSD, and After Effects.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

You cannot prove that a download of pirated software is a lost sale.

No No I get what you are saying, I am just taking a gentle jab at the people who defend "other companies" who price gouge people with lame excuses.

 

[Yamcha]

I downloaded the trials for photoshop, illustrator, & dreamweaver, some nice new features.. a bit of an updated interface.. It loads up faster, but the performance is still not fluid like it is on the Windows platform.. I never understood why.. =/..

 

[doctoree]

The 80% student or teacher discount is not to shabby.

https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/st...ls_cat&store=OLS-EDU&catID=SPECIALS&loc=en_us

The limitations on the license SUCK

 

[Yamcha]

No No I get what you are saying, I am just taking a gentle jab at the people who defend "other companies" who price gouge people with lame excuses.

Doesn't apple do the same? .. Apples profit margin is wayy high

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Doesn't apple do the same? .. Apples profit margin is wayy high

Kinda my point

 

[klymr]

The limitations on the license SUCK

What limitations? There practically are none these days! I've been using CS4 student license at work to design all the postcards, website, billboards, etc. They've lifted a lot of their restrictions in the last two versions.

http://studenteditions.adobe.com/#/learnMore/mythBusters

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

The limitations on the license SUCK

It makes sense though. The reason it is discounted is for use as a student. Most licenses that are education based do not allow you to publish for profit without penalty. Kind of like buying fonts. You buy a $4 dollar font but if you want to use it for publication that same font could be $4000 dollars. We deal with that a lot here. The Adobe license however does not follow these restrictions if you read the license agreement. The benefit of buying the more expensive versions usually have to do with updating path pricing and corp. mass license purchase.

 

[Baklava]

YES! Spaces issue fixed...

 

[Darkroom]

The limitations on the license SUCK

???

YES! Spaces issue fixed...

i'm particularly looking forward to Command+H for hiding the applications

and i'm very happy to see that AS3's call to MouseEvent.MOUSE_WHEEL now functions as it should with the new Gala beta for 10.6.3. very nice

 

[seedster2]

I am looking forward for my upgrade to arrive. Until then, I will give the trial a test drive. So far it is noticeably faster

$2500 for all that software is not expensive and you can just buy the upgrade which starts at $899

and it's a tax deduction

Indeed. While it always hurts to shell out this kind of moola, you can potentially make tons with this suite.

Doesn't apple do the same? .. Apples profit margin is wayy high

This certainly is true

 

[bertman]

The price tag is humongous. I do like photoshop a lot - but $200 upgrade price for 'three' hot new features is asking too much.

Only three hot features? An outrage! Never mind that professionals will make up $200 worth of their time in, like, a day, using only three hot features.

That is why it is almost nonexistent outside corporate world/creative industry as a legit app (I know a lot of hobbyists and enthusiasts do acquire it and use it by other means ).

Corollary: Anything else is almost nonexistent inside corporate world/creative industry.

- Bert Pasquale
Photographer, LifeStoryImages.com / LightBrushedImages.com
Member, Maryland Professional Photographer's Association, MarylandPPA.org

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Only three hot features? An outrage! Never mind that professionals will make up $200 worth of their time in, like, a day, using only three hot features.



Corollary: Anything else is almost nonexistent inside corporate world/creative industry.

- Bert Pasquale
Photographer, LifeStoryImages.com / LightBrushedImages.com
Member, Maryland Professional Photographer's Association, MarylandPPA.org

Our ROI is in 5 minutes the license has paid for itself for the year per seat.

 

[klymr]

Our ROI is in 5 minutes the license has paid for itself for the year per seat.

That's a pretty good ROI. I don't know if I've ever received a ROI on my CS3 or CS4 purchases. The only good thing is, I paid $300 for CS3 Design Premium and $329 for CS4 Design Premium (both student licenses). I'm approaching graduation (a week from tomorrow) and will soon no longer be eligible to purchase the CS5 at a student discount. Good thing I'm still considered a student until after I return from my study abroad trip to Switzerland this summer. $359 for CS5 Design Premium isn't too bad of a deal.

 

[kitki83]

whats the time gap between releases? seems i have to skip this version like CS4.... money is just no there for me =(

 

[Max(IT)]

These CS5 news only posted here so the fanboys can express their hatred towards Adobe, right?

Adobe fortunately is not only Flash crapware, so you are just trolling around ...

 

[gigi1701]

I'm moving from PPC to Intel this spring, so I have to get a new version... and my old license won't upgrade. They dropped the student pricing from 33% of the normal pricing to 25%. It's going to be seriously tempting to try to find someone to get me that student price.

If you are not a student and using CS professionally, Adobe STILL considers that pirating.

I am a professional designer (web & graphics) but I live in an area where I must keep my prices low so that small businesses can afford to have me work for them, so it would take about a month and a half of earnings to pay for CS5 (I have CS3 so the upgrade is pricy, that sucks) There are no breaks for people who are one man operated businesses on a shoe string. I will not be upgrading, what I have is fine. And I will be looking at alternative programs at some point.

Adobe has had a history of acquiring programs then ruining them, there has got to be something else out there, until something else presents itself I will be forced to run older CS programs, because there are other things, like mortgage and food and utilities that are more important.

Adobe seems to be letting printing features in it's apps go, we've seen a distinguishable uptick inQuark files coming in. I think we got maybe 5 jobs in Quark 7, total...ever. And more than a dozen in Q8.

Quark has languished badly.....Adobe is leaving the door open, will Quark step in?

P.S. Anyone running CS3 on 10.6.3 having stability issues?

Mine runs okay. I was at the Apple boards and someone posted to set Snow Leopard to run 64 bit instead of 32 bit (counterintuitive I know, but it works) and then CS3 will be stable. There are programs to set that for you, just check out macupdate.com

How much was your over-priced Apple computer?

Irrelevant. My Mac computer is not just a piece of software, how in the world can you compare the two (with a straight face that is). Besides it came loaded with tons of free software that I use in a professional setting. I have an older copy of Final Cut Pro, but I use iMovie most of the time because it is fast, easy and does what I need. (much better than Premiere any day)