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That's not entirely true. If you buy CS4 or CS5 as a student, you can use it professionally, for commercial work, even after you are out of school.
Hence why I said "tempted". Probably won't give in to that temptation, even if I knew someone who could get that discount. But the difference in price represents a month of my living expenses. That's nothing to sneeze at.
The trouble is that nothing else is in the same league. Heck, I'd get by with PS7 if a new MBP would run it (and it could open my clients' CS3+ files properly), but it's just not an option, and Gimp et al can't even match the features of an Adobe app from a half-dozen revisions ago.
How about those of us who make a solid living, but less than $600/mo of it is made working in the CS suite? Who can't use the alternatives because they don't have the proper feature sets and can't interoperate with our clients' and partners' files?
Are we somehow less professional because we don't make all our money using a particular set of software? Or because we work for ourselves instead of for megacorps for whom a $900 upgrade is pennies? Is SAPPete somehow less professional because he lives in a part of the country where prices for everything are lower? What are professional designers with moderate incomes supposed to use instead?
Interesting. Trying to Import -> Video Frames to Layers requires you to relaunch the application in 32-bit mode.
Good grief. Hopefully we won't have to wait till CS6 to be able to do everything in 64-bit Photoshop. Though given how many updates I saw in CS4, I doubt we're going to see much of anything.
Good grief. Hopefully we won't have to wait till CS6 to be able to do everything in 64-bit Photoshop. Though given how many updates I saw in CS4, I doubt we're going to see much of anything.
I've given CS5' Premiere Pro and After Effects a bit of a tyre kicking and they're running really nice - I have to say - no crashes and very quick.
FCS finally has a serious challenger, I think.
FCS finally has a serious challenger, I think.
I'd like to download the cs5 master collection for 30 days before I decide. What i'd like to know is if I could keep all of my cs4 Adobe products?
You can always come up with all kinds od reasons, but the fact remains that PS, AE & PP in CS5 are 64-bit cocoa when NONE of FCS apps are.
This is significant because:
1) Apple accuses Adobe to be too slow, when it itself has even slower development.
2) Apple has plenty of cash, so they could hurry up their pro apps development if they wanted.
Seems to be that Apple is really de-emphasizing macs and pro apps, even if Steve-O says "No".
Umm...
"All new features in FCP, since FCP 5 onward, have been written in Cocoa - HDV Log and Capture, Log and Transfer, Multicam, FXplug (that I know of) are all Cocoa."
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Having a larger software folio is not an odd reason at all. Apple can either tackle one thing at a time, giving you the best experience. Or spread yourself so thin you get a lackluster finish.
Of course you can have both versions on the same system. Don't think Adobe made CS5 in a way that it disables CS4!
Two things with regard to pricing:
[1] If every company who needed software to do (some/all) of what photoshop does wrote bespoke software then it would be a lot more expensive. Adobe's pricing is not unreasonable for professional software.
[2] They do have consumer versions of many of their tools (elements) which do a good job of catering for consumer level tasks.
[1] If every company who needed software to do (some/all) of what photoshop does wrote bespoke software then it would be a lot more expensive. Adobe's pricing is not unreasonable for professional software.
[2] They do have consumer versions of many of their tools (elements) which do a good job of catering for consumer level tasks.
Repeating this, that small portions (plug-ins, add-ons, call them what you want) of one application are in cocoa, does not change that there are NO apps in FCS that are fully 64-bit cocoa and there are several apps in CS5 that are fully 64-bit cocoa.
So you are honestly thinking that Apple can't have resources that they could develop more than one app at the time? Eg., if they would have made FCS already fully 64-bit, the code would be bad quality?
How many billions they would had to spend to get "good code" already?
I think it's pretty fair to assume that the next version of Final Cut Studio will be 64-bit just the same as Aperture has become 64-bit.
I don't see how one could expect the last release of Final Cut Studio to have been 64-bit when it was released before Snow Leopard.
10.5 can also run 64-bit apps like CS5. Or maybe FCS4.
I'm just wondering why Apple wouldn't develop 10.6 & 64-bit FCS at the same time? One hand doesn't know what the other is doing?
At least fanboys should now stop accusing Adobe beeing slow when Apple is even slower.
You don't think that maybe Apple thought it wise to first launch 64-bit OS-X and get the bugs sorted and then release the re-write? That doesn't seem like a smart strategy?
BTW CS5 is only a fraction 64-bit. The majority of the apps have no been re-written.
Just to repeat the question asked already....
Will the trial version of CS5 install and then un-install cleanly on a system with a legal copy of CS3? I won't risk the trial if there is a chance that it will muck up working copy of CS3
Thanks in advance to the brave souls who try out this stuff immediately and then share their experiences, good and bad, with us chickens!
Will the trial version of CS5 install and then un-install cleanly on a system with a legal copy of CS3? I won't risk the trial if there is a chance that it will muck up working copy of CS3
Thanks in advance to the brave souls who try out this stuff immediately and then share their experiences, good and bad, with us chickens!
Yep. Adobe creative studio products now run exponentially better than Apple's on Snow Leopard.
How's that for lazy?
A lot of us are going to spend a lot of time testing Premiere this time around.
Umm, the plugins are separate Apps. You would know this if you used FCS.
You need to stop believing in the "bigger is better" mindset. More developers wont necessarily mean faster or better completion.
Thank you for the link! It does indeed seem that there aren't that many limitations on using the educational versions. I copied this from Adobe's site:
Adobe said:
Thanks for pointing that out. I will seriously consider that as I am still eligible.
Myth bust is a bit of spin, more like restrictions which used to exist but we've now removed. When Apple busted myths like Macs don't run Microsoft Office it was actually a myth as the Mac has run Microsoft's software long before any PC.
Anyway, I digress off to check out the pricing!
Myth bust is a bit of spin, more like restrictions which used to exist but we've now removed. When Apple busted myths like Macs don't run Microsoft Office it was actually a myth as the Mac has run Microsoft's software long before any PC.
Anyway, I digress off to check out the pricing!
Adobe have made it very hard to understand the student license as it changed wording of the license in different regions of the world. Just now some days ago the student license was replaced and changed to a new wording. So just days before we had countries that did have student licenses that could not be upgraded to next releases. NOW it seems the student license and the educational license have the same upgrade policy.
"Student and Teacher Editions have replaced Adobe Student Editions beginning in April 2010."
10.5 was 64-bit already.
I wouldn't call Ps, Ae & Pr a fraction. More like "almost half". And if you think the benfits of 64-bit "almost all".