Adobe Flash Media Server 4.5 Brings Flash Video Streaming to iOS Devices

[spazzcat]

I'll assume you have only a Mac


Would you say it is a failure on Apple or Adobe ? ? ?

I'll give you a few minutes to think of an answer.


BTW,...............Running smooth on any Windows Rig.


It's ok .....go ahead "Google" and Apple and Adobe

Adobe has it's issue on windows too.

 

[JAT]

HTML 5 can't do what flash does. It isn't a 'complete' replacement.

It can do what Flash can do on an iPad. Sounds good to me.

KnightWRX,
May also have to do with the server at the websites, of course.

 

[KnightWRX]

So you're defending the use of Flash on mobile devices by comparing it to your limited experience, and in the same sentence admitting you wasted money on something you don't even use. Thanks, I'll look elsewhere for wisdom...

Wasted a whole whopping 150$... on a tablet for me and my GF. And you know what ? If I see I don't get much use out of it, I can always just sell it (they sell real well on Kijiji and Craigslist right now). Better than spending 500$ on an iPad and realising I don't have a use for it.

As it stands, the HP TouchPad words as a photoframe and I've used it to quickly look things up on the Web when my laptop is upstairs. Something I used to use my iPhone for, but it's just more comfortable on the TouchPad.



Seriously, what is it with the level of discussion in these Adobe threads ?

KnightWRX,
May also have to do with the server at the websites, of course.

Like I've said earlier, might more be due to content bugs than a runtime bugs too. The runtime might not be as robust at handling misbehaving content that some other runtimes.

I doubt it would be the server portion as that is mostly just HTTP based transfer of data.

 

[notabadname]

You both realise that streaming video is only a very small part of what Flash can do right ?

I bet the Android boys still have plenty of other advantages to their native Flash support, like you know, actually being able to play around on newgrounds or something.

But for many of us, it's the only part we really care about.

 

[chris-st]

I don't see this as negative at all, no need to bash an option, nobody is being forced. It is nice for those who might dabble if not use it all the time. And it is great on the preware/govnah touchpad, no problems or issues so far

 

[Mr. Gates]

I take it that being rude about people is only okay as long as they are insulting Apple?

Well then you take it wrong ...

I have many gripes with Microsoft.

You think that My name gives you ammo to shoot back ??
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Wrong.

Adobe has gone above and beyond to extend a hand of friendship.

Steve Jobs is just butt hurt over Quicktime loosing over Flash.


There is nothing insulting about critisising Tech companies for their errors ..............................Unless you are a brainless slave/fanboy.




What is your point anyway ?????!! Or do you even have one?

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Adobe has it's issue on windows too.

True, but not like it is on the Mac side.

It has "Some" .........with windows , ...not many

And WHY??

Because Microsoft plays nice with its developers.

Something Apple needs to learn how to do.


If you like Apple you must agree

 

[Cheffy Dave]

Ummm,

It doesn't ? I could swear I've been playing Actionscript games and watching vector graphic animations since the late 90s using Flash...

Good thing you've now told me it doesn't work.

I believe he was talking about the limitations of the new server program, as just released, but I could be wrong, at least that's the way I see it

 

[Cod3rror]

This is pretty huge!

Flash video streaming is all I want from Flash, I don't need nor like Flash websites, they are terrible!

If this update actually allows all Flash video to stream as it's advertised and videos open in native iOS controls, that'll be a huge advantage over Android, where when you open a Flash video what you're given is the PC controls that are just maximized which makes things like volume adjustment, seeking, etc... very cumbersome.

 

[Mr. Gates]

This is pretty huge!

Flash video streaming is all I want from Flash, I don't need nor like Flash websites, they are terrible!

If this update actually allows all Flash video to stream as it's advertised and videos open in native iOS controls, that'll be a huge advantage over Android, where when you open a Flash video what you're given is the PC controls that are just maximized which makes things like volume adjustment, seeking, etc... very cumbersome.

Yeah !


Look at Adobe once again stepping up to the plate and trying to make it work even when Apple does everything they can to stop Tech development.


Seriously Apple ! ................Knock it off !

 

[JackAxe]

I love the perpetuation of stupidity, like this comment; "without the processor degradation and battery life cost of the format in use on other devices."

Oops, I just contributed, but at least I know it's nothing but FUD.

Seriously MacRumors, can you stop with this FUD? Was that quote really necessary? Thanks for taking something that's potentially good for iOS users and turning into another flame-bait article.

Anyways, anyone still spewing that as fact in this day an age, needs to pull their head out of the past and stop contributing to this BS.

Here's my battery operated devices, all of which have no battery issues -- well no issues at all -- running Flash;
MacBook Pro 17" (Actually 2 of these.)
Asus Transformer
BlackBerry PlayBook
Nook Color
Nexus One

I have an iPad also, which I know for a fact could run Flash well given the changes Adobe has made to the player over the past few years.

 

[JackAxe]

There's no guarantee that they will, IMO, they should just code in HTML5 and be done with it once and for all.

Code in HTML 5? Would you mind clarifying?

 

[rocknblogger]

I think they will be mad that this new, more efficient method of streaming will only go to iOS devices and blame Apple for forcing them to continue to use their antiquated, memory hogging, local Flash installations and which slow down and/or crash and run their devices out of battery. Which of course they will package in a neat little pouty phrase like "yeah, you need to use this new, sissy Flash because Apple sucks".

Don't know why but this is the single funniest comment I've read. Laughed my ass off, really

And oh so right!!!

 

[JackAxe]

Adobe has it's issue on windows too.

That's a really general statement. What sort of issues?

I've had an issue where as Flash wants to update, it does it prior to my connection kicking in, but that's it for me. I've had the same issue with other programs that I allow to auto-update trying to call out prior to Windows finishing its desktop setup.

 

[Mattsasa]

It's late at night where I am. Am I seeing correctly?

No, gets some rest, you'll feel better in the morning.
Then check macrumors to see it was all a dream

 

[lilo777]

Five more years...

and iOS will get full Flash functionality.

 

[JackAxe]

It really surprises me you've never seen this. That doesn't mean crashed browsers, and certainly not a modern OS.
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Traditionally, that is how it works here.

Do you have a link to that page that crashed FireFox. I can test it here.

I use Chrome mostly and sometimes FireFox. I haven't had an issues with Flash(on the Mac) since moving away from Safari.

And what player are you using? If you're not at Flash Player 10.2, update.

 

[macUser2007]

But for many of us, it's the only part we really care about.

It's nice that all you care about is video, but even for video, having a Flash option is a plus.

HTML5 video still means many things, not just H.264. For instance, despite Aplle's BS about being all about open and non-proprietary, Safari does not support the only truly open and free high quality HTML5 video format, WebM. Safari will probably be the last browser to support it.

So, Flash still may be the way to reach the widest possible audience, even for video. BTW, Flash Player supports both H.264 and WebM....

Oh, and of course the sane among us do realize that Flash is much more than video, and more than ads, and it has no issues playing on modern mobile devices.

 

[Compufix]

So, Flash still may be the way to reach the widest possible audience, even for video. BTW, Flash Player supports both H.264 and WebM....

I have been streaming h.264 files to both flash players and native iOS devices for a couple years now. 1 files plays in both, and it is served via a Wowza media server. That is all this is, a way to stream a single file to both Flash clients and iOS.

The Wowza server supports Silverlight, Flash, QuickTime, iOS etc etc etc...

Ohh and it's only 999 but it is a MEDIA server...not a full Flash experience server I believe.

 

[gadget123]

How is this new?

There's already flash apps for Ipad/iphone so this is just the same right?

 

[guerro]

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Adobe yesterday announced the release of Flash Media Server 4.5 and Flash Access 3.0, updated tools to allow publishers to host streaming Flash video content. As noted by Computerworld, the release includes a new solution to allow Flash content to be repackaged and streamed to iOS devices, which famously do not support Flash Player directly.Consequently, as media publishers begin to adopt the new Adobe software, they will be able to easily deliver HTML5-compatible content to mobile devices alongside the traditional Flash Player content. Because the feature utilizes video streaming technology rather than running the Flash content directly on the device, it does not yet support interactive Flash content such as games and banner ads, but the ability to access streaming Flash video on iOS devices will certainly be a welcome addition for many users.

A number of media providers have of course already taken to providing HTML5 versions of their video content in order to bring compatibility to iOS devices, but direct integration of the functionality into Flash Media Server should simplify the process for those content providers who have invested in the platform.

Article Link: Adobe Flash Media Server 4.5 Brings Flash Video Streaming to iOS Devices

Wouldn't it be easier to just build the content in HTML5 ??? ?? ? ??

 

[mdriftmeyer]

What a bunch of gobbly gook by Adobe. You cannot manage to state simply, ``We're hedging out bets and incorporating Apple's HTTP Live Streaming Draft Standard,'' because that would be tacit to admitting that Flash is dying.

 

[Ijustfarted]

so when will we see this in action? would be sweet to play flash videos on my ipad

 

[John.B]

Adobe has gone above and beyond to extend a hand of friendship.

Adobe has tried every end run around Flash on iOS they could think of, except to get demonstrable improved performance. Same problem on Mac OSX.

Because Microsoft plays nice with its developers.

Something Apple needs to learn how to do.

Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE

 

[backdraft]

Red 5 is Free and can do all of the above!

Features: http://trac.red5.org/

 

[applebook]

This is excellent news, I'm glad to see adobe innovating to support modern standards.

One modern standard that Adobe needs to adopt is stability...speed and efficiency would also be welcomed.

I disable Flash for my Android devices.