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Adobe Illustrator and InDesign Not Working Properly with macOS High Sierra

Adobe, that infamous company!

When there are well documented and easily reproducible bugs in Lightroom first reported over 3 years ago and still not fixed, am I surprised that mere months wasn't enough time?
 
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As others have said, what was Adobe doing during the rather lengthy beta period?

Even if all they could do was identify bugs, couldn’t they have pre-warned their Mac users before it went public that the software wasn’t yet compatible?

Also, “some incompatibility issues” should be “some compatibility issues”.
 
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trouble for me is that I use Lightroom almost everyday. I'd happily go without every bloody Adobe app if I could convert my whole Lightroom catalogue to something else just as easy to use
[doublepost=1506712699][/doublepost]i'm already using Avid Media Composer and Davinci Resolve anyway for video work so for me this is the final straw.
Just need to find a good mac alternative to Indesign. Any suggestions anyone ?
 
FWIW, MS Word & Excel (2011) appear to work fine in spite of the non-compatibility statement in the article. Adobe Illustrator CS5, Photoshop CS5.1 and InDesign CS5.5 also appear to boot and operate as normal. Only glitch with the Adobe products is after quitting, you get the "application unexpectedly quit" message. YMMV.

For the record, I wouldn't object to purchasing a new Office 2016 if that's what is ultimately required. Seven years is pretty good value for what I paid for 2011. On the other hand, Adobe's subscription-only model will ultimately force me to find stand-alone alternatives.
 
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johannnn said:
Have you taken a look at https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/? Not everything that illustrator is, so depend on your needs.
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Affinity Designer does sound pretty good. I have it myself, but haven't gotten into it.

On the other hand I've used and can recommend Sketch.

atikalz said:
Not working in the design or advertising industry?
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No. I once worked for a oil & gas facilities engineering/design company if that counts. My primary tool was AutoCAD (on Windows). Autodesk provided a PDF print driver which worked very well and generated PDFs that were no larger (file size) than needed. Management insisted on using Adobe's PDF print driver which did not work consistently and would produce bloated PDFs when it did work.

My feeling is Adobe produces low quality software for which they charge a very high price. Nobody should have to be subject to that regardless of the industry they work in. But that's just me.
 
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Illustrator is working for me. InDesign has the annoying cursor bug, but not anything else that I can see.
 
johannnn said:
Have you taken a look at https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/designer/? Not everything that illustrator is, so depend on your needs.
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TheWatchfulOne said:
Affinity Designer does sound pretty good. I have it myself, but haven't gotten into it.

On the other hand I've used and can recommend Sketch.
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I agree Affinity Designer is a great app.

It does pretty much everything I need… but… big BUT! Until they introduce moveable 0,0 point of origin it is unusable to me.
If you look on their site and forum it is one of the most requested features.
*sigh*
Come on Affinity! We're ready to switch. :)
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Starflyer said:
Illustrator is working for me. InDesign has the annoying cursor bug, but not anything else that I can see.
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Illustrator is "working" for me as well… except it displays pixelated artifacts and guides and elements become invisible, unless you zoom back and forth.
 
As a photographer i wish apple still made aperture it works but not with my 5dmark iv so have to use lightroom and omg its the slowest software in the world
 
I'm not having any of these problems with Illustrator or InDesign (both the current CC 2017 versions) running under macOS High Sierra (the release version, 17A365) on my 2012 MacBook Pro with its SSD converted to APFS. Weird.
 
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As a photographer i wish apple still made aperture it works but not with my 5dmark iv so have to use lightroom and omg its the slowest software in the world
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I agree with you. I liked Aperture a lot and then migrated to Lightroom. But I find it awkward compared to Aperture. My cameras are the Nikon D5, and the D850 and also Canon EOS 1DX mkII so needed lightroom just for my watermark. Now I think i'll be looking for yet another software package :(
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jjm3 said:
I'm not having any of these problems with Illustrator or InDesign (both the current CC 2017 versions) running under macOS High Sierra (the release version, 17A365) on my 2012 MacBook Pro with its SSD converted to APFS. Weird.
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Yes, I noticed that my CC installer was updated only a few days ago, everything at the moment seems fine! Although admittedly i have 2016 laptop and 2017 5k iMac both running with APFS... So if it ain't broke !!!!!!
 
ThiGeever said:
We should really stop supporting Adobe’s software. They really don’t care about their customers. The whole design industry needs to move in a different direction.
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Or, you know, as professionals, perhaps we don't rush ahead and update to the latest operating system version on day one, and then there's no problem? What's so essential in High Sierra that it requires any of us to be guinea pigs for Adobe or Apple? There are plenty of rubes willing to play that game. Let them suffer the consequences.

Honestly, I really question how many of you use your Macs primarily to make money. Because if you did, you wouldn't go anywhere near an OS update until you were certain there were no potential compatibility problems, whether within the OS itself, or within essential third party tools.

Assume all software, always, is buggy. Plan accordingly. Creation a validation process for your essential tools and regression test your most common and necessary combinations before committing to changing your workflow. There's zero excuse for behaving like a consumer when your ability to generate revenue is on the line.
 
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This sux. I rely on Adobe Illustrator and this is the only app holding up my upgrade. Adobe dropped the ball on this.
 
Some developers just don't care. JBL, for example, has a "JBL Music" app that's needed to configure their L8 and L16 speakers. These are expensive speakers! Yet they didn't update the app for iOS 11 so people who upgraded and don't have an older device to fall back on can't configure their speakers anymore.

It's maddening; the beta period runs for months and you even TELL these companies their stuff is broken yet they don't fix it.
 
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Or, you know, as professionals, perhaps we don't rush ahead and update to the latest operating system version on day one, and then there's no problem? What's so essential in High Sierra that it requires any of us to be guinea pigs for Adobe or Apple? There are plenty of rubes willing to play that game. Let them suffer the consequences.

Honestly, I really question how many of you use your Macs primarily to make money. Because if you did, you wouldn't go anywhere near an OS update until you were certain there were no potential compatibility problems, whether within the OS itself, or within essential third party tools.

Assume all software, always, is buggy. Plan accordingly.
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Yes, you are correct but the trouble with technology is "technology".. It's the chasing game! It's out of date anyway!
 
mudflap said:
Once again Adobe has no excuse. They had access to the High Sierra betas just like any other developer, for months. They could've had all their apps ready to go the day 10.13 was released. But no. Because Adobe.
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Yep. This is why software engineers and ui designers are abandoning Illustrator and InDesign for Sketch. Sketch has worked with 10.13 for weeks now, and already supports the Touch Bar...

... not to mention that it's better, less buggy, and 1/10th of the price.

If you're like me and rely on a vector graphics tool for work, I highly recommend taking a look at Sketch. Once you use it, you'll never be able to go back. It's not quite as well suited for print work as InDesign, but for everything else, there's just no reason to use Adobe's tools anymore.
 
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zorinlynx said:
Some developers just don't care. JBL, for example, has a "JBL Music" app that's needed to configure their L8 and L16 speakers. These are expensive speakers! Yet they didn't update the app for iOS 11 so people who upgraded and don't have an older device to fall back on can't configure their speakers anymore.

It's maddening; the beta period runs for months and you even TELL these companies their stuff is broken yet they don't fix it.
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I had an issue with Marantz today.. Airplay not working after TVoS11 update.. Marantz said they knew about and ... they did nothing... I might be lucky and get a firmware update to resolve it but I doubt it!
 
Shadow%20Mac said:
Yep. This is why software engineers and ui designers are abandoning Illustrator and InDesign for Sketch. Sketch has worked with 10.13 for weeks now, and already supports the Touch Bar...

... not to mention that it's better, less buggy, and 1/10th of the price.

If you're like me and rely on a vector graphics tool for work, I highly recommend taking a look at Sketch. Once you use it, you'll never be able to go back. It's not quite as well suited for print work as InDesign, but for everything else, there's just no reason to use Adobe's tools anymore.
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I'll take note of that one... thanks! ;)
 
jonathanbruce said:
Yes, you are correct but the trouble with technology is "technology".. It's the chasing game! It's out of date anyway!
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Look, I get that. The desire to embrace the "new shiny" and validate Apple's marketing push is strong within me, too. There are a few new things in High Sierra I'd like to play with, or figure out how they work, or at least get up to speed on. But then I take a step back, and ask myself: What's most important? My business, or my curiosity? Business wins, every time.

Because this isn't just about Adobe, this is about the mess of poor documentation and the stupid secrecy Apple is is obsessed with now allowing for clear roadmaps of how they intend to evolve their own software. You can't expect others to plan effectively around Apple's changes when Apple doesn't provide a coherent, stable roadmap. They're as capricious with their development practices as the companies we love to hate. They're busy pointing fingers at each other, and we all lose.

Remind me again why we need a brand new OS release every 12 months.
 
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