$15k+ and you are not able to read a simple support document? Wow!
Btw:
http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/download-install-trials.html
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Adobe Introduces Creative Suite 6 and Creative Cloud
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Btw:
http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/download-install-trials.html
I personally like this Creative Cloud. I am no longer a student so I don't have an opportunity to buy at student pricing but can still keep current for cheap. I use a lot of Adobe's Creative Suite, but its all for hobbyist things.
They make (a lot of) money, because the pirates provide the free advertising.
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@SprodeBoy: Next time go to adobe.com, before you ask such a question! Thank you!
@hajime: Read what MR writes! Thank you!
Build your own Cloud and use WebDAV to host your own needs.
Buy your own NAS Solution to be managed in a DMV behind your own domain
Get a couple dedicated IPs, run NAT behind the scenes and set up your own business needs.
Set up a Co-location or two and then have TBs of disc space access for your needs.
Don't pay $900 + fees per machine license to use Adobe's Cloud.
Buy your own NAS Solution to be managed in a DMV behind your own domain
Get a couple dedicated IPs, run NAT behind the scenes and set up your own business needs.
Set up a Co-location or two and then have TBs of disc space access for your needs.
Don't pay $900 + fees per machine license to use Adobe's Cloud.
Yes, I see this too with Production Premium. Seems like an odd "loophole" for sure, but I suppose I'll go the 5-->5.5-->6 route myself.
$63 AU a month here in Australia. Still a sweet deal.
Dare I say it - this price brings it to a point where a large majority of peeps who pirated the software would be willing to pay for it. I may be wrong, but this purchase was a no brainer for me - and I really only use a few of the apps (mostly PS).
Dare I say it - this price brings it to a point where a large majority of peeps who pirated the software would be willing to pay for it. I may be wrong, but this purchase was a no brainer for me - and I really only use a few of the apps (mostly PS).
Another vote here for "overpriced." They're good products but Adobe always seems to be shooting itself in the foot by making their suite so out of reach for smaller businesses.
We wait several versions before we can afford to upgrade and we use their products on only one or two work stations because of the high prices. With more reasonable pricing we'd buy more licenses and more staff would get their hands on the products, wanting them for themselves and being trained to use them at future jobs.
Perhaps they've done smarter analysis (or perhaps not) but the unpopularly high prices just seem a bit counter-productive and engender such ill will toward an otherwise decent company.
We wait several versions before we can afford to upgrade and we use their products on only one or two work stations because of the high prices. With more reasonable pricing we'd buy more licenses and more staff would get their hands on the products, wanting them for themselves and being trained to use them at future jobs.
Perhaps they've done smarter analysis (or perhaps not) but the unpopularly high prices just seem a bit counter-productive and engender such ill will toward an otherwise decent company.
The only thing I have left to wonder about is whether or not my GTX 285 will work good enough for SpeedGrade, or if it's really *that* big a difference / better with a Quadro 4000.
Adobe's website says "Dedicated GPU card with at least 1GB of VRAM recommended (for optimal performance: NVIDIA Quadro 4000)" while everything else lists the GTX 285 under "supported NVIDIA graphics cards for GPU acceleration."
Guess the only way to know is when people test them all out.
Adobe's website says "Dedicated GPU card with at least 1GB of VRAM recommended (for optimal performance: NVIDIA Quadro 4000)" while everything else lists the GTX 285 under "supported NVIDIA graphics cards for GPU acceleration."
Guess the only way to know is when people test them all out.
I wonder if there's a loss of speed if you used Adobe apps via the cloud.
I suppose the software is not on your computer, but on a server, which means everything has to travel from your computer to the server and back.
$600/year for all apps isn't a bad deal - if you really use them all.
If you are only using Photoshop, then it's a waste of money.
There should be different level of cloud subscription.
Otherwise, if you are only using Photoshop, owning the app is the better choice.
I suppose the software is not on your computer, but on a server, which means everything has to travel from your computer to the server and back.
$600/year for all apps isn't a bad deal - if you really use them all.
If you are only using Photoshop, then it's a waste of money.
There should be different level of cloud subscription.
Otherwise, if you are only using Photoshop, owning the app is the better choice.
'Nice' to see that the costs outside the US are 50-80% higher than their home market.
I think the Creative Cloud is basically giving people the option of saving their files in the "cloud" so you can share it across your computers and devices. I don't think Adobe means you have to run the Applications off a server. It clearly states you have to download the apps.
From their FAQs:
Do I need ongoing Internet access to use my Creative Suite applications?
Because your Creative Suite applications are installed directly on your computer, you will not need an ongoing Internet connection to use them on a daily basis. However, you will need to be online when you install and license your software, and at least once every 30 days thereafter. The software will alert you when you need to connect to the Internet for a license status check.
On how many computers may I install the software I download from Creative Cloud?
You can install the desktop applications available in Creative Cloud on your primary computer and one backup computer, as long as they are not running at the same time. You will have access to both the Mac OS and Windows versions, so if you have a Mac at home and a PC at work, for instance, you can install your applications on both. See the product license agreements page for more information.
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It says on their site that it allows you to 'download' all the adobe creative suite software. I'm assuming then its just a physical activation each time you launch a programme to see if your account is in good standing.
If you use it for work, you own the real thing. The people who pirate it probably wouldn't have bought a copy anyway.
That's quite a jump in requirements from what it was. I wonder if OpenGL can still be disabled like before. It was a really poor implementation, and it has been since CS4. If you get the Quadro 4000, you can buy the same Mac version from some of the other vendors for around $700-800. Apple still charges the 2010 launch price of $1200. I wouldn't buy a significantly more expensive card just to run photoshop/creative suite, especially without seeing performance comparisons.
I'm a student and have been holding off since I gave my brother my copy of Creative Suite 5.0 to get myself another copy. Creative Suite 5.5 was nothing more than meh but 6.0 based on what I've seen and read regarding the beta feedback for Photoshop CS6 that it really is value for money if you're coming from CS4 and CS5 (value for money being a relative term). I do think though that Adobe need to come out with an enthusiast license, a non-profit license very much like how Microsoft sells their 'Home and Student' version of Office which is available to all non-commercial end users - something like that would really improve relations between Adobe and customers, and more importantly would bring those, who would normally pirate, to purchase a legitimate copy.
Seriously considering jumping ship if I can find some viable alternatives. My CS4 is starting to feel its age and runs badly on Lion, but £952 to upgrade is a bit steep for me.
So what are my options?
Dreamweaver --> Coda
Photoshop --> Pixelmator? (Does it do CMYK?)
Illustrator --> ???
Fireworks --> ???
InDesign --> ??? (Don't say Quark, I abandoned them 10 years ago!)
I use all of them for professional purposes but just for everyday design, not really cutting edge stuff. (Photoshop and Illustrator have capabilities that I don't even know about!). If I can get some replacements that cover some of the ground, I might be able to get away with using them.
So what are my options?
Dreamweaver --> Coda
Photoshop --> Pixelmator? (Does it do CMYK?)
Illustrator --> ???
Fireworks --> ???
InDesign --> ??? (Don't say Quark, I abandoned them 10 years ago!)
I use all of them for professional purposes but just for everyday design, not really cutting edge stuff. (Photoshop and Illustrator have capabilities that I don't even know about!). If I can get some replacements that cover some of the ground, I might be able to get away with using them.
As a business, the pricing would be fine by me if I didn't know that the guys down the road who are my business competitors are using pirated copies. If it wasn't for this I would actually be happy that Adobe was pricing their products out of reach of Mom and Pop and kept as a serious business tool.
I'm also always a little irritated that I have to buy bundles with packages I never use. If I am buying online why can't I specify which packages I want and just pay for those? I never use Flash (Flash Catalyst seems to have died now) and don't really need Dreamweaver but pay for Design Premium just to get Photoshop Extended and Fireworks.
I'm also always a little irritated that I have to buy bundles with packages I never use. If I am buying online why can't I specify which packages I want and just pay for those? I never use Flash (Flash Catalyst seems to have died now) and don't really need Dreamweaver but pay for Design Premium just to get Photoshop Extended and Fireworks.
Sounds like you should lobby your Congressman for protection if you can't compete with Mom and Pop
That's true!. I think I just find it irritating that everyone you speak to has a copy of Photoshop. They tend to assume if they have the gear they are as good as you. I have even known a client get his son to do a website because he had Dreamweaver and had made a website at high school. Thankfully that's not the kind of client I want!
I know exactly what you mean, I have the same problem. Also, a friend of mine ran a photo restoration business for years, absolute genius with Photoshop, knew it inside out. But he had to move on when kids with PCs running pirated copies of Photoshop came along and undercut him. The consumer sees a lower price and bites, not realising that the quality of work is going to be poor.
I agree. I've been really underwhelmed by CS5.5. Random crashes are common. If it was a freeware suite, I would understand. I just hope CS6 isn't worse. We have automatic upgrades at our college, so I guess I'll find out...