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Oh my God please don't. Leopard is alright, just boring. Aqua looks as bad as XP. They need to do something new and different with the UI (talking about Apple).

They need to bring back Aqua but leopardize it. No more pinstriping or anything, but just keep the aqua buttons. The stupid OS has no colour anymore, it's so boring...
 
Good God are you wrong. Apple may be making some dubious decisions in the iTunes interface these days, but there is no way that they could ever come up with an abortion that ugly.

The new Logic 8 has no color for the traffic lights. It was specifically stated at MWSF that the colors are going bye bye. They will be grey until you hover the mouse over them and then they will be colored.
 
As a Photoshop User for 12+ years and for the past 6 or so using it extensively in the workplace (95% of the time) I think I'll end up liking the UI. Usually I have been against certain changes in new versions of Photoshop to find out later that once I get over the "legacy way" of doing things the changes make sense and I end up being more efficient. I'll give this new UI the benefit of the doubt.

Some things to look forward to in the next release (you can find this info if you know where to look) are GPU acceleration for certain operations (not sure which cards will support it though), and a focus on integrating 3D models/files better to edit within PS.

The dodge/burn algorithm has been redone so that if you use either tool the hue should not shift dramatically for RGB/CYMK image.

There is also an opacity slider to affect only a layer mask (instead of using opacity/fill sliders which affect the whole layer).

If you zoom in far enough to see individual pixels there is a thin white line between pixels so you can readily distinguish where one starts and ends.

The "Save for Web" window has been reorganized to make much more sense.

That's all I know at the moment, but I've seen proof that all of those features do exist.
 
Adobe is one of the worst offenders when it comes to UI consistency for OS X.

Seriously, can Adobe and Microsoft stop coming out with stupid, ill-conceived UIs and just follow the guidelines?
 
Ew, what is Adobe doing ?! That interface is awful. Why did they make changes to the traffic light icons ?!

I am hoping this is just a prototype interface.

May the hope be with you then...

I simply think that that's how good Applications become great Applications.

I mean, If a marketing big mouth like John Nack says the interface's great, it has to be, right?

He took the opportunity and told everyone in his blog that he's been a Mac user for the longest time and therefore completely capable and competent of approving such an interface...
And since he's got his name in the Photoshop about box that must be true right? Right?
After all, when you have watched planes taking of for 25 Years you automatically know how to fly.

But what about you, the customer? You are the Idiot that pays a couple of hundred bucks for every upgrade.
If you live in Europe you even pay 2.5 times the american price depending on which country you live in.

And what for exactly?
Completely unusable crap like VersionCue, Bridge, The Color Assistant in Illustrator... And now this? One new interface after the other? One worse than the other?

I used to love these apps that's why I'm so mad. How the hell can you **** up like this and get away with a smile?
 
I don't understand why they have to make everything all caps. NAVIGATOR, CHANNELS, LAYERS! Too blocky and harder to read for my taste. Comparing the old to the new, I find the old easier to pick out what I'm looking for. I hope this isn't a trend.

Who turns on colors in the Channels palette anyway? Rookie mistake... maybe Adobe themselves thought the interface was too grey for the promo screenshot... ;)

I'm reserving judgement until I can actually use the new features though. And unless you're dealing with super gargantuan files, lack of 64-bit support won't affect the majority of users much. Maybe they've managed to put some speed improvements in here... the Mac version has been dogging the Windows version for some time now.
 
I think it looks fine. But how come the Aqua drop-down menus have those weird, deformed arrow symbols? It was like that in CS3, too.
 
I'm reserving judgement until I can actually use the new features though. And unless you're dealing with super gargantuan files, lack of 64-bit support won't affect the majority of users much. Maybe they've managed to put some speed improvements in here... the Mac version has been dogging the Windows version for some time now.

I agree, most people hear 64-bit and don't understand that for the majority of things it just doesn't help (unless, like you say the person is using insanely big files). Lack of 64-bit is really not a killer for the next version of Mac PS.

64 bit ≠Twice as fast as 32 bit. The GPU accelerations will cause a much bigger performance gain.
 
wow, this is as horrible as Leopards GUI... BRING BACK AQUA! Why are we going to back to the 90s w/ all these ass ugly flat grey... w/e the hell these all are
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Umm, you do realize that when working with colors it's good to have a neutral desktop, right? ;)
 
I'll stick with Aperture, it's all I need and the layout is beautiful, professional looking and superb for storing your library of photos in a visual way that can be quickly recalled when needed. :cool::apple:
 
Looks like CS4 is change for the sake of change to milk out some money.

A lot of the Adobe apps are that way - Acrobat is notorious for having very minor changes between full version releases.

The problem that Adobe now has is that they've bundled most of their apps together in such a way that you expect the next version of CS to have all the apps in it updated at the same time and by doing so the programming resources are spread out between all product groups and you get minor changes instead of big major changes. Even if there is a big change you have to remember that Photoshop is so diverse and complex that adding a major change for a certain group of users (3D modelers or whatever) will not necessarily affect another group of users (photographers, pre-press, etc) because they won't ever use the new function (even if it is useful and groundbreaking) and will then say that the upgrade was worthless. Adobe will never be able to please everyone.
 
The new Logic 8 has no color for the traffic lights. It was specifically stated at MWSF that the colors are going bye bye. They will be grey until you hover the mouse over them and then they will be colored.
Really? Where has that been discussed?
 
Umm, you do realize that when working with colors it's good to have a neutral desktop, right? ;)

THANK YOU. I have two monitor settings - one in full blazing color for surfing the net and one neutral one for doing actual work. And frankly, it mostly stays on the neutral one. Glad someone brought this up.
 
Good God are you wrong. Apple may be making some dubious decisions in the iTunes interface these days, but there is no way that they could ever come up with an abortion that ugly.

Yep, Apple would NEVER make an application of theirs come with grey "traffic light" buttons.:rolleyes:

Now in reality the first pic is Aperture, the second is Aperture with the mouse pointer over the -+ buttons. And there are more examples of Apple doing this too, as previously stated by others here. Isn't it exciting!:D
 

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Yep, Apple would NEVER make an Application of theirs come with grey "traffic light" buttons.:rolleyes:

Now in reality the first pic is Aperture, the second is Aperture with the mouse pointer over the -+ buttons. And there are more examples of Apple doing this too, as previously stated by others here. Isn't it exciting!:D

But those have been a system option for years, no? So why the arbitrarily different new version instead? I think these are one thing that should be consistent system wide. It's not really part of the program.
 
I still hate the fact that it isn't 64-bit....

Yeah, just read that as well. I understand re-writing all that code takes time, but why wouldn't they get a 64-bit version out for OS X? I mean isn't Photoshop used mostly on Macs anyway?

Apparently you people don't a) keep up with Apple and Adobe news b) understand very little about the software development process.

Adobe was full set to have CS4 have 64-bit support in OS X however about a year ago at WWDC '07 Apple told developers that they were pulling the plug on Carbon 64-bit support, responding to cries that Carbon is officially DEAD as a future development platform by telling them Cocoa is the way to go. Now, Apple's been making it pretty clear that Cococa was the future and Carbon was a stop-gap solution but even Apple themselves taut Carbon as better for cross-platform development.

Since Carbon won't ever be 64-bit, rewriting the entire suite of CS tools would take more than a usual update cycle to switch from Carbon to Cocoa AND make the app 64-bit compatible. That's just a ******** of bug testing and not enough time to do it while releasing the Mac version at the same time as the Windows version. So instead Adobe is going to work on porting their Carbon code to Cocoa (which means a rewrite of C++ code to Objective C) in CS4 and then add 64-bit support in CS5.

Though you might want some proof, so here's Adobe's blog annoucement: http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2008/04/photoshop_lr_64.html
 
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