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Well I like the new interface. Most OS X apps are one window per document and don't have a heap of pallets separate from the document windows. OK so this takes it a step further and has all the documents in one window, but so does safari. This is certainly nearer to normal apps than the old photoshop.

Anyway, you'll all complain about it at first and then get used it it. ;) In any case, it's optional.
 
I like aqua, leopard is already tooooo dark, this adobe stuff is even darker, is the trend going down the pit or what?
 
I'm thrilled that they are doing this (as an option of course, so people can do as they please). These days, now that most applications are tabbed, Photoshop is the only application I use on a regular basis that uses the aging lose-window, fixed/floating tools design. When using photoshop and illustrator to work on the same graphic, I always found this annoying because it's too easy to switch to the wrong application. At a glance it's not always obvious, either layered or in expose, which window is which. I got leopard hoping to better separate my workspace using spaces, but of course cs3 doesn't work well with spaces. :( I've never had these frustrations on windows, and still often prefer to use my pc laptop when working on large batches.

I also don't understand why people are saying this is such a horrible move from cs3 - it's basically the same as the "Maximized Screen Mode" (which many designers recommend for the neutral background), just sizable and movable, and with tabs to switch images.

As for the tool changes, I'll reserve judgment until I try them.

As always, personal preference, not saying it's "right". No need to flame me, I'm just voicing my support, and I know first hand that I'm not the only one to complain about this. :D
 
I've always wanted something like this.. ok this implementation isn't so pretty but it's going the right direction..

Why they have to invent something so new when they've already made the most awesome interface in after effects. AE interface in PS would be sweet..
 
But those have been a system option for years, no? So why the arbitrarily different new version instead? I think these are one thing that should be consistent system wide. It's not really part of the program.

I'm not really sure about a systemwide option but Aperture is the only program I have that does this.
 
How will this single window interface help those of us who work in multiple monitors? Currently, my palettes are mostly placed on my secondary monitor while I get most of my work done in my main monitor.

Yes, I realized that I could condense the palettes into the "thumbnail" form and click to open them, but that's not very efficient.
 
Umm, you do realize that when working with colors it's good to have a neutral desktop, right? ;)

You beat me to it. :) It's funny how people are talking about how aqua should be brought back more. I personally like the new Leopard UI, I wish they would switch to the scroll bars used in iTunes already. iTunes seems to be the test for how people react to new UI concepts. I can't wait to see iTunes 8. I like the direction Apple has gone with the UI, I also give them credit for not jumping the gun and changing the entire look overnight, instead they have made subtle changes over time and smoothed the transition out of the somewhat tacky looking Aqua. The one thing I hope Apple does is keep some sort of color in the traffic light buttons (in the top left corner of each window). If they make the buttons all grey it will take away from the usability of the UI. It's nice to have the different colors because it makes it simpler to identify which button to click on without hovering over them. Sure one can memorize the order of the three, but it seems that it is worth leaving a little color in for usability sake. I like the achromatic scheme of the rest of the UI though.
 
How will this single window interface help those of us who work in multiple monitors? Currently, my palettes are mostly placed on my secondary monitor while I get most of my work done in my main monitor.

Yes, I realized that I could condense the palettes into the "thumbnail" form and click to open them, but that's not very efficient.

The implication seemed to be that you could mix-and match this feature. So you could leave your main palette on one screen, but use the tabs for image switching in a single window on the second screen if you wanted to reduce some clutter. The example linked in the article shows two windows with separate sets of tabs, which could be useful for working on two projects.
 
The implication seemed to be that you could mix-and match this feature. So you could leave your main palette on one screen, but use the tabs for image switching in a single window on the second screen if you wanted to reduce some clutter. The example linked in the article shows two windows with separate sets of tabs, which could be useful for working on two projects.

Right, but that still seems incredibly awkward... I don't want ALL of my palettes on one screen, just the secondary ones that I use here and there.
 
As a 3 monitor extended desktop user, I have to say that I won't be changing the way I work personally. I don't buy the whole "move a whole application into a different monitor" view thing.

I don't have 3 of the same LCDs across my set up. My center LCD is the largest and has the best color settings. The side 2 LCD's are matching cheapies from Wal*Mart and I don't use them for color, only for palettes, extra windows and web/email windows.

I do like the rotate the image in the window feature. Will be great for Wacom users, just like turning the piece of paper while you draw on it!
 
Right, but that still seems incredibly awkward... I don't want ALL of my palettes on one screen, just the secondary ones that I use here and there.
That's what I'm trying to say, it looks like you could do that if you wanted. If you leave your palettes detached, you can place them where you like (just like now), but group project windows together as you see fit.

I don't know how flexible it is without trying it, but it looks fairly open. People seem to be reading this as simply a one-or-the-other feature, but they are trying to make a point that it's not. If you can group you palettes and windows how you want, then I see this as a big plus to pretty much everyone, even the initial nay-sayers.
 
RE: The palette tabs being in all caps

Don't they know that's yelling?

COLOR! SWATCHES! STYLES! PHOTOSHOP!!!!! :eek:
 
If you can group you palettes and windows how you want, then I see this as a big plus to pretty much everyone, even the initial nay-sayers.

For clarity, I guess I should note that it actually looks that these are two separate features, the tabbing and application frame are separate, so you may see one feature as useful and one not. I still think it's a reasonable step, and considering the application frame replaces Maximized mode, you could just look at it as a minor evolution of that feature :D
 
I like the new look! And can't wait for tabbed work, and better cross program support!
 
adobe are so bad at UI design. Yet macromedia were so good. shame

Really? I always found ye olde Macromedia software to be the biggest pain in the ass ever.

I think you all are jumping the gun on this one. After Effects has a unified GUI like this and once you get used to it (and it is highly customizable on where stuff is btw) you'll learn to like it a lot better.

-mark
 
Yes Please!! Add my vote FOR the integrated desktop.

The background visual clutter and bits and pieces of palettes scattered all over the desk top drives me batty! Changing views means that I cannot move the image window as there is no visible top bar to drag.

I also hope they give me the ability to make the tool box larger - I'm getting wrinkles with all the squinting I have to do!
 
I like the unified layout. I've always hated how on OS X every element seemed to be in it's own space in Photoshop. I'd hit the background too easily and switch apps by accident. I've always much preferred how the Windows version is.

I dont get it.
If you press one of the buttons your screen is all grey and you cant see the background OS.
If you press another, the screen goes all black and blackness surrounds what your working on...for the entire monitor.

Photoshop has done this since at least 2000 minimum.
I have used those features quite a bit.

So again, not sure how this is something new...true the pallets were not tiled when you resized the window before...which is cool and makes sense.

Anyway

Peace

dAlen
 
I've been using photoshop professionally for around 8 years & there are a few worrying changes here. Of course I can get used to a new interface, that is not what worries me, its the strange positioning / layout choices.

The application bar now has icons in it? huh, thats different from any Apple OS application ever & causes the app bar to be twice as wide. Some are even repeated options. You such as document size which appears at the top & bottom of the window.

The tool bar doesnt have any lines between icons - i can probably get used to that, but it looks odd.

The use of capitals is annoying.

Most buttons seem to take up a great deal of space compared to previous versions - I guess thats ok for those with a 30" monitor, but if you work on anything smaller your losing lots of real estate.

The doc tabs are strange - how will i clone between 2 docs? how will i compare 2 docs?

The background like windows is definitely not good for me, I often have notes etc in mail or stickies visible in the background to work from.
 
Really? I always found ye olde Macromedia software to be the biggest pain in the ass ever.

I think you all are jumping the gun on this one. After Effects has a unified GUI like this and once you get used to it (and it is highly customizable on where stuff is btw) you'll learn to like it a lot better.

-mark

As for GUI I dig apples apps. (i.e. Final Cut Pro, etc.)

Peace

dAlen
 
I've been using photoshop professionally for around 8 years

Making me sound old...been using photoshop since version 2.
The biggest change in my opinion to date was version 3. ;)

Easy to get used to Layers...life was rough without them. :)

Peace

dAlen
 
I don't think it is terrible. But it doesn't matter what I think, because Adobe can do anything they want to photoshop. They can really screw me over if they want, because there is no viable alternative to using it.
 
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