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Adobe Renaming 'Flash Professional' to ‘Animate’, Shifts Focus to HTML5
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It's not like new sites are being made with Flash content. The problem is all those video sites hanging around that use Flash for their video players. I have to say that I still need and use Flash. And if I were a kid who liked playing games, I'd especially like having Flash for all those webpage Flash games. It doesn't seem like there are widespread tools to make HTML5 games, plus some old games never get old.
I want to see all the video stuff get off Flash (to HTML5, or better yet, QuickTime) and then have Flash still be available, but only for games.
I want to see all the video stuff get off Flash (to HTML5, or better yet, QuickTime) and then have Flash still be available, but only for games.
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Steve takes over Nirvana, he'd fire all the demigods that hung around the Tree of Life too much and start redesigning the place. Loki would be in a personal crisis wondering if he is friend or foe.
There's also Flash Player to blame. People make nice stuff, but the player is always a resource hog and an annoying piece of "updateware", my term for software that always wants to update. Unfortunately, we're in a weird spot now. I wouldn't consider HTML5 the replacement for Flash yet. Seems like a lot of HTML5 "standards" are only supported in Chrome, as if Google is somehow making them up. And I've seen plenty of HTML5 content hogging my CPU and RAM too!
Ugh. I'm stuck with Xfinity/Comcast here. At least 5% packet loss all day every day. I've sworn revenge on that company so many times as my connection died. If I can find a way to **** them up some day, I will, and at any cost (I mean, not illegally).
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Also there is only one flash player. Great thing about open standards is you have multiple players to compare the output from the save description file.
I remember these boards were filled with flash supporters, ridiculing Steve Jobs and Apple. Then the ridicule turned into nasty remarks. Now, it seems most people have accepted the fact that supporting flash was a bad idea.
Oh wait, that coincides with Arthur Schoepenhauer's 3 stages of truth: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
It's amazing how many new Apple products or changes Apple makes to its products go through these stages.
Oh wait, that coincides with Arthur Schoepenhauer's 3 stages of truth: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
It's amazing how many new Apple products or changes Apple makes to its products go through these stages.
I couldn't understand half of what Jaques there was saying in the video...
Adobe needs to pick their evangelists better.
Adobe needs to pick their evangelists better.
I'm right there with you. I did the same thing a couple of months ago, and it has been virtually painless. If I get to a site that wants Flash to show me something I just snicker and reflect on how they just cost themselves clicks as I navigate away.
Not sure I understand what you're getting at. Just saying that for the people that use Adobe products every day, the cost is minimal. I use Photoshop, After Effects and Premiere just about every day. I'd easily pay $600 a year for each of those and it would still be worth it for me, as well as most others. $600 a year for all of Adobe's offerings and keeping them up to date is kinda amazing after you get over the "renting software sucks" attitude, which I admit that I opposed for a long time.
Exactly. It's a rebranding to escape the horrible image that the product has earned by being used for things it shouldn't have been. It's an animation took and it shouldn't ever have gone beyond that focus.
Now we can start slandering the word "Animate". Admittedly a harder thing to do, since it's not a brand word and is so generic that five hundred other products have that word in it as a focal point of the branding. Maybe we'll just add "Adobe" to it as a prefix, so we can add Adobe's corporate identity to the slander in specific. They've earned it.
I do the exact same thing.
Amazing! They still exist. Flash supporters, Adobe 's apologizers are still alive.
"Security ? Who cares ? All we need are idiotic flash games..."
That's summarized and defined your entire post...
Flash is a dead man walking....
I surely remember.
Remember everyone the only reason HTML 5 is being pushed so much is because it uses and supports DRM enforcement - https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/ - I hate DRM.
no one will ever rip any content again, we're all doomed .....
Also, don't forget if Adobe Professional is going, then as we move forward, there will be less and less of a reason to use Flash plug-in as well, since Adobe will probably release an update that could easily just break "flash" sites if the new plugin detects such has been coded in .swf and not HTML5..
That could do that........ but that would be be a fare way off...... They could, but they may not
Alternative, they could just keep Flash player around, as a "we don't care how slow your PC/Mac gets" but its just a transition for new users only..
If true, if's not gonna take off, since like creative subscriptions or anything most don't go for, it will not fly, unless we all get on board... and i cannot see that ever happening. It will be good for those already using Creative Cloud, but for tmost of us who are not, how will it benifet us ? it won't since we are still using older software and producing flash as we always have. Unless all developers just switched overnight to code web sites in HTML 5, which isn't gonna happen. Even 100 years time, u will still see websites with flash content. HTML 5 will take off, but not in the way the world wills see it as...as in 99% of websites out there.... it must be, or it won't be big.
Also, don't forget if Adobe Professional is going, then as we move forward, there will be less and less of a reason to use Flash plug-in as well, since Adobe will probably release an update that could easily just break "flash" sites if the new plugin detects such has been coded in .swf and not HTML5..
That could do that........ but that would be be a fare way off...... They could, but they may not
Alternative, they could just keep Flash player around, as a "we don't care how slow your PC/Mac gets" but its just a transition for new users only..
If true, if's not gonna take off, since like creative subscriptions or anything most don't go for, it will not fly, unless we all get on board... and i cannot see that ever happening. It will be good for those already using Creative Cloud, but for tmost of us who are not, how will it benifet us ? it won't since we are still using older software and producing flash as we always have. Unless all developers just switched overnight to code web sites in HTML 5, which isn't gonna happen. Even 100 years time, u will still see websites with flash content. HTML 5 will take off, but not in the way the world wills see it as...as in 99% of websites out there.... it must be, or it won't be big.
big in video and the advertising industry. You will not notice though as depending on the browser detection you will be shown a flash or MP4 asset.
Yes max, Flash is still very much alive, cause it takes time for companies to migrate, especially if you are talking large mounts of video. That is if you Still have the original asset....We have huge amounts of video and they are encoded for flash and MP4.... Shock horror, as they end user you will not notice and claim flash is dead cause these videos play on your iPhone....
Costs max..... Costs.... You realize a flash asset is so much smaller than a MP4 asset? And when you pay millions in bandwidth costs ... Makes a huge difference.
Given people can install flash on a Mac, and always could, WHAT apology are you asking for?
Flash in time will die out. It's not dead in 2015....nor will it be for many years to come. It's time will come.
And it was a great tool for website development.
Well, it was inevitable. Jobs wanted Flash to die right there and then, which wasn't happening. But Flash's demise has been a long time coming.
my only reasoning is while developers will switch in time, flash is more optimized for web, small file size..
and while new stuff will be developed for HTML 5, where would that put for flash web sites that already exists.... will these be forced to migrate to HTML5 video if they suddenly start seeing a massive drip in visitors just because no computer has Abode flash plug-in anymore either to support ?
No doubt Steve did the right thing and led the way by abandoning flash on mobile devices to consume battery life, and i guess u could also say the same for laptops running on battery power. less so for desktops, where they are plugged in constantly ,but still drain/slow down performance as a lesser impact.
and while new stuff will be developed for HTML 5, where would that put for flash web sites that already exists.... will these be forced to migrate to HTML5 video if they suddenly start seeing a massive drip in visitors just because no computer has Abode flash plug-in anymore either to support ?
No doubt Steve did the right thing and led the way by abandoning flash on mobile devices to consume battery life, and i guess u could also say the same for laptops running on battery power. less so for desktops, where they are plugged in constantly ,but still drain/slow down performance as a lesser impact.
You're 100% correct. Back in 2000(ish) my friend use to host Lan parties, we set about designing a new site in Flash and it was superb.... was it a bit of a download, yes the first time (back then ie cached everything so it could be used offline). The thing is, it was interactive, interesting and stood us out in a time where the web was a text fest.
I'm a little sad the internet timemachine didn't cache it all
Did someone call for a Wayback machine :- http://web.archive.org
Check out microsoft, and look at all those snapshots.. It's like a minefield just waiting to happen.
I doubt u would find little flash pre-2000 days
Check out microsoft, and look at all those snapshots.. It's like a minefield just waiting to happen.
I doubt u would find little flash pre-2000 days
to be fair, they probably didn't know that HTML5 can mostly replace it. I for one thought YouTube videos had to be in Flash(at least on the site). Also, lets not forget, many websites used Flash back then so abandoning it meaning filtering out a significant parts of the web. I clearly remember most Las Vegas hotel websites were in complete Flash.
I dream of a single IDE
One which could allow could allow me to bring my content to life in the way I want.
One which could handle animation, data services, back and and front end systems
One which would render identically on all devices no matter which platform or browser was used.
One that could handle video, high end graphics, vector graphics and sounds.
One that was simple to use, so simple kids could learn a skill.
But who would ever dream of such a simple world.
In the meantime I will keep my hand in at HTML, HTML 5, .NET, SQL, xCode's Swift, C, C++, Objective C, Javascript, JQuery and the like, oh and CSS, CSS3 for that Utopian dream that my creation may render the same on every browser. While I am waiting I shall also seek permission from App Stores to get my work published.
Flash wasn't killed by Apple because it was a resource hog, it wasn't overlooked because of security flaws and it wasn't put to sleep because of battery life. If it were then they would close down the iOS and Mac App stores as there are thousands of examples of apps that have the same effect right there.
Apple saw a huge source of income in the App Store that would never have materialised if we were allowed to access the real web. If a twenty year old PC can access Flash content then I am confident that an iPhone 6s could do it just as efficiently.
I regret that Adobe dropped the ball on this one, but they did, big style, and it is time to move on.
Wouldn't that single IDE be great though?
One which could allow could allow me to bring my content to life in the way I want.
One which could handle animation, data services, back and and front end systems
One which would render identically on all devices no matter which platform or browser was used.
One that could handle video, high end graphics, vector graphics and sounds.
One that was simple to use, so simple kids could learn a skill.
But who would ever dream of such a simple world.
In the meantime I will keep my hand in at HTML, HTML 5, .NET, SQL, xCode's Swift, C, C++, Objective C, Javascript, JQuery and the like, oh and CSS, CSS3 for that Utopian dream that my creation may render the same on every browser. While I am waiting I shall also seek permission from App Stores to get my work published.
Flash wasn't killed by Apple because it was a resource hog, it wasn't overlooked because of security flaws and it wasn't put to sleep because of battery life. If it were then they would close down the iOS and Mac App stores as there are thousands of examples of apps that have the same effect right there.
Apple saw a huge source of income in the App Store that would never have materialised if we were allowed to access the real web. If a twenty year old PC can access Flash content then I am confident that an iPhone 6s could do it just as efficiently.
I regret that Adobe dropped the ball on this one, but they did, big style, and it is time to move on.
Wouldn't that single IDE be great though?